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Dec 24, 2019 09:26:03   #
home brewer Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
 
when i try to look at the D850 nef (raw) photos nothing else will open. I have a intel i7 6700 cpu with 8 gig ram. I use the machine for 3d cad PTC creo work and have no issues.
any ideas.
I have no problems with ACDsee ultimate 20

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Dec 24, 2019 09:28:43   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
home brewer wrote:
when i try to look at the D850 nef (raw) photos nothing else will open. I have a intel i7 6700 cpu with 8 gig ram. I use the machine for 3d cad PTC creo work and have no issues.
any ideas.
I have no problems with ACDsee ultimate 20


More about your machine including hard drive use, graphics use, etc....
And is this in PS only and not in Lightroom?

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Dec 24, 2019 09:30:27   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Oh, do you have an SSD and a an HD? What sizes? Where do you store files and where do you store programs?

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Dec 24, 2019 09:35:29   #
pappleg
 
You need at least 16 gigs of ram and 32 is better. When I traded my D810 for the Z7 and it's 45MP my old iMac with 8 gigs of ram froze (40 min to do an HDR). Got a new iMac (27") with 8 gigs from factory but added another 32 from OWC and it screams. Pat

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Dec 24, 2019 09:49:22   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
home brewer wrote:
when i try to look at the D850 nef (raw) photos nothing else will open. I have a intel i7 6700 cpu with 8 gig ram. I use the machine for 3d cad PTC creo work and have no issues.
any ideas.
I have no problems with ACDsee ultimate 20

Definitely need more RAM. I have 64 GB in my work computer but sometimes it still isn't enough.

Adobe programs are known among the computer elite who don't work for Adobe as memory hogs. My daily work includes using Photoshop, Lightroom, Elements, Illustrator, Acrobat Pro, Camera Raw, Indesign, and Bridge. Photoshop, Illustrator, and Indesign are the worst in that list.

The person who built my work computer in 2016 now is a senior in computer science at Cal-Berkeley with a 4.0 GPA and a $120,000-a-year job lined up to start in June 2020. His secret for getting Adobe programs to work: Shut the programs down at least once a day, and shut the whole computer down (rather than sleep or hibernate) at least once a week. Ever since I started that practice six months ago, the programs are much more responsive.

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Dec 24, 2019 09:49:36   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
home brewer wrote:
when i try to look at the D850 nef (raw) photos nothing else will open. I have a intel i7 6700 cpu with 8 gig ram. I use the machine for 3d cad PTC creo work and have no issues.
any ideas.
I have no problems with ACDsee ultimate 20


Ironically, I have a Dell PC with the same microprocessor, an i7 6700. But I have 32 GB RAM! You probably need at least 24 GB. A 45MP RAW file is going to be large. It would run faster with a D750 or D810 Camera with your 8 GB of RAM. On the other hand, my four cameras are APS-C cameras from 6 - 14 - 16 - 24 MP so my RAW files can be only big never huge. Though I at times produced stitched panoramas that are sometimes over 1.2 GB is size and do slow Photoshop a bit. I'm guessing you are using Windows 10 or at least 7.

You may want to check your preferences and memory handling setting in Ps, ACR, Windows, and Lr and/or PSE if you have it. If things are only set for 25MB Paging or similar low values for files and handling, you are going to have problems with a high resolution / extremely high pixel count camera file(s). Let the program or ap use at least 30% of your 8 GB. With my 32 GB I go much higher to 40-60%. And how is your HDD set for paging? People with the Sony FF A7Riv 62MP or Fujifilm medium format 100MP cameras probably need brand new computers to be happy. G.A.S. can be painful (to the pocket book repeatedly). Have fun. Good luck.

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Dec 24, 2019 09:54:18   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
My guess that it's your computer and not Photoshop.

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Dec 24, 2019 10:05:03   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
russelray wrote:
Definitely need more RAM. I have 64 GB in my work computer but sometimes it still isn't enough.

Adobe programs are known among the computer elite who don't work for Adobe as memory hogs. My daily work includes using Photoshop, Lightroom, Elements, Illustrator, Acrobat Pro, Camera Raw, Indesign, and Bridge. Photoshop, Illustrator, and Indesign are the worst in that list.

The person who built my work computer in 2016 now is a senior in computer science at Cal-Berkeley with a 4.0 GPA and a $120,000-a-year job lined up to start in June 2020. His secret for getting Adobe programs to work: Shut the programs down at least once a day, and shut the whole computer down (rather than sleep or hibernate) at least once a week. Ever since I started that practice six months ago, the programs are much more responsive.
Definitely need more RAM. I have 64 GB in my work ... (show quote)


Interesting you state,

"Shut the programs down at least once a day, and shut the whole computer down (rather than sleep or hibernate) at least once a week. Ever since I started that practice six months ago, the programs are much more responsive."

Serendipity, I've found that to likely be true. But not only for Adobe programs but Microsoft as well. I use Windows 10, Office 365, Ps CS6, ACR 9.1.1, Bridge, and Web Browse daily, and even though I have 32GB of RAM things do slow down the longer I work on files through time. And so I've found I must "restart" things from time to time.

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Dec 24, 2019 10:05:19   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
It is really hard to help this OP. His machine could be a 2015-16 iMac or a PC. It could have an SSD or a very slow HD. He is editing in ACDsee ultimate 20 which has been known to be a bit weak in RAW file conversion. ACDsee also needs continuing access to the actual file (vs LR which uses the catalog) depending on drive decisions this may result in slower or faster speeds. If you have a huge SSD and can keep all your photos there, ACDsee should be fairly fast. But ACDsee loads the files each time and holds them in RAM, so I think, with only 8GB of RAM you will slow down. If the OP is committed to ACDsee, maxing out the RAM is in order.

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Dec 24, 2019 10:30:26   #
home brewer Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
 
who would think the D850 would require expensive glass and a new computer. Thanks to those who gave helpful information. I am not sure i can add ram to the older Dell. I know that changing components on the Dell can be challenging.

The Dell XPS has 2 drives a T bite at about 75% full and a secondary 2 T bite that i added that is mostly empty.
I do not want another Dell as they are difficult to repair and upgrade. A mac will not run some of drafting, GPS and other programs i like.
Any suggestions for a computer that runs windows? There is a local place that will build one that can be upgrade.

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Dec 24, 2019 10:31:23   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Interesting you state,

"Shut the programs down at least once a day, and shut the whole computer down (rather than sleep or hibernate) at least once a week. Ever since I started that practice six months ago, the programs are much more responsive."

Serendipity, I've found that to likely be true. But not only for Adobe programs but Microsoft as well. I use Windows 10, Office 365, Ps CS6, ACR 9.1.1, Bridge, and Web Browse daily, and even though I have 32GB of RAM things do slow down the longer I work on files through time. And so I've found I must "restart" things from time to time.
Interesting you state, br br i "Shut the pr... (show quote)

Such used to be the case with earlier versions of Windows but I have no problem with Windows 10 on my other three office computers or my laptop computer. All of them have 16 GB of RAM but none of them run any Adobe programs. One is accounting, so it's running Excel and Word; one is presentations, so it's running Word and Powerpoint; one is music so it's running various music programs (Audacity, MusicBee). The laptop is accounting and presentations (all Microsoft programs). Only my work computer that runs all the Adobe programs gets bogged down.

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Dec 24, 2019 10:37:36   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
home brewer wrote:
who would think the D850 would require expensive glass and a new computer. Thanks to those who gave helpful information. I am not sure i can add ram to the older Dell. I know that changing components on the Dell can be challenging.

The Dell XPS has 2 drives a T bite at about 75% full and a secondary 2 T bite that i added that is mostly empty.
I do not want another Dell as they are difficult to repair and upgrade. A mac will not run some of drafting, GPS and other programs i like.
Any suggestions for a computer that runs windows? There is a local place that will build one that can be upgrade.
who would think the D850 would require expensive g... (show quote)

I had one built for me in 2017. It still screams in 2019 as long as I understand that Adobe programs are memory hogs and will slow the computer significantly with the problem being resolved by shutting Adobe programs down each day and shutting the computer down (instead of hibernating or sleeping) once a week. Here are the specs and comments from others: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-461559-1.html

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Dec 24, 2019 12:16:44   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
russelray wrote:
I had one built for me in 2017. It still screams in 2019 as long as I understand that Adobe programs are memory hogs and will slow the computer significantly with the problem being resolved by shutting Adobe programs down each day and shutting the computer down (instead of hibernating or sleeping) once a week. Here are the specs and comments from others: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-461559-1.html


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Dec 24, 2019 12:29:22   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Interesting you state,

"Shut the programs down at least once a day, and shut the whole computer down (rather than sleep or hibernate) at least once a week. Ever since I started that practice six months ago, the programs are much more responsive."

Serendipity, I've found that to likely be true. But not only for Adobe programs but Microsoft as well. I use Windows 10, Office 365, Ps CS6, ACR 9.1.1, Bridge, and Web Browse daily, and even though I have 32GB of RAM things do slow down the longer I work on files through time. And so I've found I must "restart" things from time to time.
Interesting you state, br br i "Shut the pr... (show quote)


Agree, the same thing happens to me

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Dec 24, 2019 13:38:20   #
rebride
 
Open up Task Manager>Performance to see where the bottleneck is. Do while running the program as it is slowing down computer.
On my old Dell XPS with i5 6400 (and new XPS) it was the hard drive. A hard drive at 75% capacity is probably maxxed out as far performance goes. A SSD sure sped things up. I have 16GB memory and it did hit almost 14gb usage the other day, but that was a first. Probably my new camera.
The Dell XPS cases are a bit tight, but . . .

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