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Dec 23, 2019 13:13:51   #
Red Sky At Night
 
mas24 wrote:
B&H has a holiday Sale on both of these lenses. The FX 50mm f1.8G, selling for $179 new. Or the FX 85mm f1.8G for $426, new, a reduced price of about $50. I don't know how long the Sale will last. I own the 50mm f1.8G. I paid about $218 for it some time ago. On a full frame D850, I think the 85mm f1.8G is the best choice. Good luck.


Those are the same prices I was quoted at the store when I called. They must be following the trend. 👍. Thanks.

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Dec 23, 2019 13:19:52   #
williejoha
 
My go to lens for family is the 28-70 L f:2.8. Can’t beat it, works every time. Merry Christmas to all the Hogs.
WJH

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Dec 23, 2019 13:21:53   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Red Sky At Night wrote:
Those are the same prices I was quoted at the store when I called. They must be following the trend. 👍. Thanks.


I learned a lesson from last year's Holiday Sale Prices. Act quickly, because, generally the prices go up after a Holiday Sale. I missed out on some deals last year, because I stalled in making a decision to buy.

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Dec 23, 2019 13:44:07   #
User ID
 
CHG_CANON wrote:

Unless money is burning a hole in your
pocket, what makes you think a prime
is a better choice than either of these
assumed f/2.8 zooms?


20-70 ? If thaz a 2.8 ... !!!!

Possibly "20" is a typo, cuz
if no typo, one GIANT lens !

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Dec 23, 2019 14:03:06   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Let's see, you have a D850 with 20-70 and 70-200 lenses and you feel you need another lens to cover the focal lengths you already have covered?! It's a D850 not a D7000. You don't need a 50 or 85 mm fast prime because you have arguably the best 35mm DSLR currently made. If you don't feel the lenses you currently have are fast enough to shoot indoors without a flash then you've been paying attention to the old folks who still live in their glory days of film. Don't be afraid to go past ISO 1600. Your camera will produce clean images even at fairly high ISO'S like 6400 or 12,800 or 25,600. Instead of coveting a lens you can't really afford at this time, why don't you look into buying a good flash unit to go with your excellent camera and more than adequate lenses.

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Dec 23, 2019 14:10:38   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Let's see, you have a D850 with 20-70 and 70-200 lenses and you feel you need another lens to cover the focal lengths you already have covered?! It's a D850 not a D7000. You don't need a 50 or 85 mm fast prime because you have arguably the best 35mm DSLR currently made. If you don't feel the lenses you currently have are fast enough to shoot indoors without a flash then you've been paying attention to the old folks who still live in their glory days of film. Don't be afraid to go past ISO 1600. Your camera will produce clean images even at fairly high ISO'S like 6400 or 12,800 or 25,600. Instead of coveting a lens you can't really afford at this time, why don't you look into buying a good flash unit to go with your excellent camera and more than adequate lenses.
Let's see, you have a D850 with 20-70 and 70-200 l... (show quote)


There's more to F/1.4 than low light exposure. DOF is, or can be, an important element.

I have a D850 and the 2 lenses the OP has. I still use my old AF 50mm F/1.4. Even though the D850 is a big, heavy camera, it is still nice to have a small, light lens attached.

The OP didn't say he couldn't go for 1 lens right now, just that he couldn't spring for 2. The 50mm Nikon lenses are a bargain.

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Dec 23, 2019 15:01:35   #
CO
 
User ID wrote:
You have grandkids ?? How steady are your hands ?

Your zooms may well have image stabilization. Most
primes do not. I wanted a 50 with in-lens IS [Nikon
calls it VR, generic term is OIS]. I've been very well
pleased with a Tamron 45/1.8 with OIS. So pleased
that I bought a second copy, for my other brand of
bodies. If I needed one for yet a 3rd brand, I'd do it.

For you and your D850, it makes even more sense
than my pair of lower MP SLRs. You can crop much
more than I can, easily imitating a 65 or 70mm/1.8
with no visible loss. The extra 5mm width of view
will be handy for your group shots, and you'd not
really notice it in other applications.

===========================

8 Pros and 2 Cons:

Only $400, excellent imaging, has OIS, feels solid,
operates nearly silently, full time MF-AF override,
has focus scale, tulip hood** included.

BUT ! It's rather bulky for a normal lens. Focusing
scale is good to have, but this one is a bit crowded.

**Since it's kinda bulky, I tested it very thoroughly
for all possibilities of flare. It proved so immune to
flare, even with a filter in place, that I don't use
the hood, thus reducing its bulk. BTW, it's not a
huge lens, just rather bulky for a normal lens.
You have grandkids ?? How steady are your hands ? ... (show quote)


I also have the Tamron 45mm f/1.8 SP VC lens. I use it on both my full frame D750 and crop sensor D500. The vibration compensation really helps when hand holding the camera. It also has a metal lens barrel and is fully weather sealed including a weather seal at the lens mount. I like to use it for full length portraits. The 35mm f/1.8 SP VC, 45mm f/1.8 SP VC, and 85mm f/1.8 SP VC all have vibration compensation. If you're hand holding the camera, take a good look at them.

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Dec 23, 2019 15:25:30   #
Red Sky At Night
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Let's see, you have a D850 with 20-70 and 70-200 lenses and you feel you need another lens to cover the focal lengths you already have covered?! It's a D850 not a D7000. You don't need a 50 or 85 mm fast prime because you have arguably the best 35mm DSLR currently made. If you don't feel the lenses you currently have are fast enough to shoot indoors without a flash then you've been paying attention to the old folks who still live in their glory days of film. Don't be afraid to go past ISO 1600. Your camera will produce clean images even at fairly high ISO'S like 6400 or 12,800 or 25,600. Instead of coveting a lens you can't really afford at this time, why don't you look into buying a good flash unit to go with your excellent camera and more than adequate lenses.
Let's see, you have a D850 with 20-70 and 70-200 l... (show quote)


Good insight. Thanks.

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Dec 23, 2019 15:28:11   #
Red Sky At Night
 
Bill_de wrote:
There's more to F/1.4 than low light exposure. DOF is, or can be, an important element.

I have a D850 and the 2 lenses the OP has. I still use my old AF 50mm F/1.4. Even though the D850 is a big, heavy camera, it is still nice to have a small, light lens attached.

The OP didn't say he couldn't go for 1 lens right now, just that he couldn't spring for 2. The 50mm Nikon lenses are a bargain.

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And weight is one of my considerations looking at these lenses.

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Dec 23, 2019 15:30:30   #
Red Sky At Night
 
Thanks everyone. I’ve appreciated the input from all of you. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. And Happy Everything else you are celebrating. And Happy Shooting.

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Dec 23, 2019 16:35:18   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Red Sky At Night wrote:
20-70 & 70-200.


With those two lenses you already have, it shouldn't be to difficult to figure out which lens (50mm or 85mm) will best serve your needs - in other words, which focal length would be most useful to you.

First, get someone to serve as a test subject. Then take the 20-70mm, set it to 50mm focal length and try taking typical pictures of the subject. After that, do the same thing with the 70-200mm set to 85mm. See which setup works best. And then you will have your answer!

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Dec 23, 2019 16:38:45   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Red Sky At Night wrote:
So I just discovered a box store a half hour from where I recently moved. What a wonderful surprise. I’m still fairly new to all of this. I bought a D850 as my starter camera which caused quite a stir on this forum ;). But I love my new camera and could not be happier with my decision. I will grow with it for a long time. I am ready to add a new lens to take pictures of my brand new and older grandkids. All of them will be here for Christmas. I can’t really get both right now so I’m wondering if a 50mm or an 85mm would be most useful and why? I’d like to take both single portraits and a group setting. Thanks in advance for your responses.
So I just discovered a box store a half hour from ... (show quote)


Both, the 85 is a wonderful portrait lens but it is a bit long for candid, the 50 is much more suitable for many of the pics you will take when with family but for those wonderful portraits the 85 is the lens you are going to want.

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Dec 23, 2019 17:35:33   #
Chromodynamics6 Loc: Beverly Hills Ca.
 
My $.02. Get something like this and kill two birds with one stone. Great image quality and they work really well for portraits. You can have all sorts of fun on those rainy days when you really don't want to go out.

Nikon AF-S FX Micro-NIKKOR 2177 60mm f/2.8G ED Standard Macro Lens

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Dec 23, 2019 17:57:40   #
Red Sky At Night
 
Chromodynamics6 wrote:
My $.02. Get something like this and kill two birds with one stone. Great image quality and they work really well for portraits. You can have all sorts of fun on those rainy days when you really don't want to go out.

Nikon AF-S FX Micro-NIKKOR 2177 60mm f/2.8G ED Standard Macro Lens


Macro is definitely on my list for later. I’ll take a look.

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Dec 23, 2019 18:06:14   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
If you present lenses include the 50mm focal length, the 85mm is a great choice for PORTRAITS, especially head shots, head and shoulders, and 3/4 length and even couples and small groups in 3/4 length.

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