very simple set-up. Very simple crop which will bother some. I like the idea that negative space is sometimes important to the emotional response to an image.
Great shot! Can you convert it into black and white for us?
JohnFrim
Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
What would it say if the negative space were on the darker/shadow side of the lady?
Interesting. Is the negative space usually more pleasing if on the darker/shadow side?
Nice shot, Vertigo. Serious question: why is it called "negative space"? Is there a positive space, too?
To the questions about "negative space" I shall try to give a serious answer. First: I am not a trained or educated artist (I'm a biologist) so what I say is a personal response not professional. Secondly, I am sure there are people on this forum far more capable of a good explanation. Thirdly, I used the terminology so I ought to try to explain what I meant. The work (image, if you will) consists of the subject (the young lady) which I would refer to as the "positive" and the surrounding space which I would call the "negative space."
As to the light or dark side is better, I believe that is a thing of individual taste--no right and no wrong. Is she moving from the light to darkness or from darkness into the light? Our Western minds have been schooled by the direction that we right to move from left to right. Does that mean it is wrong to have faces looking to the left in an image? I don't think so. We have had discussions here about "rules" for images and consensus seemed to be that knowing and understanding some of the "rules" is a good thing but they are there to break in order to have an image say what we personally want it to say (or feel, perhaps.) Does it make me feel inclusive or excluded? happy or sad? enervated or sodden?
I hope this doesn't sound defensive nor evasive. Certainly not my intent. They are good questions and these are discussions that I value--the ones that make you go "Hmmm!" Apologies if there are typos or misspellings.
Dig. Thanks, Vertigo. I am not a professional photographer either (geologist) so greatly value discussions such as this. 'Preciate the response.
vertigo wrote:
To the questions about "negative space" I shall try to give a serious answer. First: I am not a trained or educated artist (I'm a biologist) so what I say is a personal response not professional. Secondly, I am sure there are people on this forum far more capable of a good explanation. Thirdly, I used the terminology so I ought to try to explain what I meant. The work (image, if you will) consists of the subject (the young lady) which I would refer to as the "positive" and the surrounding space which I would call the "negative space."
As to the light or dark side is better, I believe that is a thing of individual taste--no right and no wrong. Is she moving from the light to darkness or from darkness into the light? Our Western minds have been schooled by the direction that we right to move from left to right. Does that mean it is wrong to have faces looking to the left in an image? I don't think so. We have had discussions here about "rules" for images and consensus seemed to be that knowing and understanding some of the "rules" is a good thing but they are there to break in order to have an image say what we personally want it to say (or feel, perhaps.) Does it make me feel inclusive or excluded? happy or sad? enervated or sodden?
I hope this doesn't sound defensive nor evasive. Certainly not my intent. They are good questions and these are discussions that I value--the ones that make you go "Hmmm!" Apologies if there are typos or misspellings.
To the questions about "negative space" ... (
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Love the model, Love the lighting … Its just a great shot...…. I can see where John is coming from as the shadow on the floor is prematurely cut off … So for me I would like to see the shape of the shadow which could add value to the image.. it might not but its just my brain asking "What would it look like".. Hope that makes sense.... still first class art nude whatever way you look at it.. Keep em coming... ;-)
vertigo wrote:
very simple set-up. Very simple crop which will bother some. I like the idea that negative space is sometimes important to the emotional response to an image.
A great image!!
I too would like to see different versions of this image, ie monochrome darker background etc.
I like it a lot, and like the idea of the empty space. I can understand what folks are saying about the shadow.
vertigo wrote:
To the questions about "negative space" I shall try to give a serious answer. First: I am not a trained or educated artist (I'm a biologist) so what I say is a personal response not professional. Secondly, I am sure there are people on this forum far more capable of a good explanation. Thirdly, I used the terminology so I ought to try to explain what I meant. The work (image, if you will) consists of the subject (the young lady) which I would refer to as the "positive" and the surrounding space which I would call the "negative space."
As to the light or dark side is better, I believe that is a thing of individual taste--no right and no wrong. Is she moving from the light to darkness or from darkness into the light? Our Western minds have been schooled by the direction that we right to move from left to right. Does that mean it is wrong to have faces looking to the left in an image? I don't think so. We have had discussions here about "rules" for images and consensus seemed to be that knowing and understanding some of the "rules" is a good thing but they are there to break in order to have an image say what we personally want it to say (or feel, perhaps.) Does it make me feel inclusive or excluded? happy or sad? enervated or sodden?
I hope this doesn't sound defensive nor evasive. Certainly not my intent. They are good questions and these are discussions that I value--the ones that make you go "Hmmm!" Apologies if there are typos or misspellings.
To the questions about "negative space" ... (
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There is a tendency to require labels for everything. Overhearing conversations at art openings is, to me, entertaining. What is overlooked often is the story the artwork conveys. "What does it say to you?"
Here's a misnomer, for example. "Primitive" Art.
vertigo wrote:
very simple set-up. Very simple crop which will bother some. I like the idea that negative space is sometimes important to the emotional response to an image.
A fascinating study of a human being. Well presented.
vertigo wrote:
very simple set-up. Very simple crop which will bother some. I like the idea that negative space is sometimes important to the emotional response to an image.
Very nice and I like the color of the skin
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