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Dec 22, 2019 04:01:14   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
A black hole is a region of spacetime exhibiting gravitational acceleration so strong that nothing—no particles or even electromagnetic radiation such as light—can escape from it.[6] The theory of general relativity predicts that a sufficiently compact mass can deform spacetime to form a black hole.[7][8] The boundary of the region from which no escape is possible is called the event horizon. Although the event horizon has an enormous effect on the fate and circumstances of an object crossing it, no locally detectable features appear to be observed.[9] In many ways, a black hole acts like an ideal black body, as it reflects no light.[10][11] Moreover, quantum field theory in curved spacetime predicts that event horizons emit Hawking radiation, with the same spectrum as a black body of a temperature inversely proportional to its mass. This temperature is on the order of billionths of a kelvin for black holes of stellar mass, making it essentially impossible to observe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole

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Dec 22, 2019 06:47:17   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
GalaxyCat wrote:
God is so powerful that He spoke everything into existence in 6 days. On the 4th day, he "made the stars also."

The Bible says that we, humans, will never be able to count all the stars. And the Holy Spirit of God had that written long, long before telescopes or super-computers were invented.
The Bible says "God has counted all of the stars, and calls them all by name, and NONE of them is missing."

I am saying right here, right now, that a black hole is a "missing star", because not even light can escape a Black Hole. God says NONE of the stars are missing. Please go prove me wrong! Spend the rest of your life seeking the T***H.
God is so powerful that He spoke everything into e... (show quote)


OK, a black hole is a star that ran out of the reaction that kept it shining. It is still a star and is still there it has just burned out. Thus it is not missing it just quit emitting light as other younger stars do.
I believe the Bible says humans do not understand everything either.
We have not even come close to even creating a living blade of grass from "Nothing" or inert matter.
Discussion of God is silly in that you can not disprove his existence in any empirical way. Describe the taste of salt without me sampling it. I doubt you or anyone can do so. Same thing with God, how do you describe an infinitely (to us) powerful being in our limited ability to comprehend such a thing.
I for one will believe as I have said before. If wrong, no skin off my nose is right, thank God.

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Dec 22, 2019 06:54:05   #
GalaxyCat Loc: Boston, MA
 
Kraken wrote:
A black hole is a region of spacetime exhibiting gravitational acceleration so strong that nothing—no particles or even electromagnetic radiation such as light—can escape from it.[6] The theory of general relativity predicts that a sufficiently compact mass can deform spacetime to form a black hole.[7][8] The boundary of the region from which no escape is possible is called the event horizon. Although the event horizon has an enormous effect on the fate and circumstances of an object crossing it, no locally detectable features appear to be observed.[9] In many ways, a black hole acts like an ideal black body, as it reflects no light.[10][11] Moreover, quantum field theory in curved spacetime predicts that event horizons emit Hawking radiation, with the same spectrum as a black body of a temperature inversely proportional to its mass. This temperature is on the order of billionths of a kelvin for black holes of stellar mass, making it essentially impossible to observe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole
A black hole is a region of spacetime exhibiting g... (show quote)


I certainly agree. And if a black hole results from a collapsed star, and no light can escape, and it cannot be observed, I propose that that star is "missing."
I'm an electronic engineer, and I got high grades. I enjoy studying Astronomy. A cesium atom clock in Boston and one in Denver will have a different time by approximately 60 microseconds. That's .00006 seconds. And those 2 clocks are separated by about 1 mile elevation difference in the earth's gravitational field. Time is affected by gravity. "In the last days, Knowledge shall be increased" . The Bible does not say our knowledge will be perfect. We think we are so great and so powerful. If we really knew how much God loves us, the whole earth would get saved, out of pure love and gratitude for our Creator. But people just like us were eating and drinking and living right up until the world wide flood. God saw that man's heart was evil continually, and He was sorry He made mankind. Noah believed God and built an ark. He tried to warn some people, but they laughed at him. A requirement of love is to have free will. God doesn't want robots. There is NO darkness in God. He is 100% Holy and Good. That's why he didn't make mankind in paradise already, oh yes, the garden of Eden was a paradise, the Tree of Life was there, we were never supposed to die. The Bible says that God saw that His Creation was very good. He made people in His Image and Likeness, but please look at the verse, "Let us make man in our image..." God is three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, but we didn't learn that until Jesus came to earth to live with us, but right there in Genesis it says that God is plural. I don't think the Jews ever had any idea that God was 3 Persons.

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Dec 22, 2019 07:15:22   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
How sad.....

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Dec 22, 2019 07:22:27   #
WNC Ralf Loc: Candler NC, in the mountains!
 
GalaxyCat wrote:
That verse is in the Bible. God cannot lie.


God did NOTwrite the Bible, the Bible was written by men. Men who changed the book over the centuries to suit their needs.

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Dec 22, 2019 07:24:39   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
GalaxyCat wrote:
I certainly agree. And if a black hole results from a collapsed star, and no light can escape, and it cannot be observed, I propose that that star is "missing."
I'm an electronic engineer, and I got high grades. I enjoy studying Astronomy. A cesium atom clock in Boston and one in Denver will have a different time by approximately 60 microseconds. That's .00006 seconds. And those 2 clocks are separated by about 1 mile elevation difference in the earth's gravitational field. Time is affected by gravity. "In the last days, Knowledge shall be increased" . The Bible does not say our knowledge will be perfect. We think we are so great and so powerful. If we really knew how much God loves us, the whole earth would get saved, out of pure love and gratitude for our Creator. But people just like us were eating and drinking and living right up until the world wide flood. God saw that man's heart was evil continually, and He was sorry He made mankind. Noah believed God and built an ark. He tried to warn some people, but they laughed at him. A requirement of love is to have free will. God doesn't want robots. There is NO darkness in God. He is 100% Holy and Good. That's why he didn't make mankind in paradise already, oh yes, the garden of Eden was a paradise, the Tree of Life was there, we were never supposed to die. The Bible says that God saw that His Creation was very good. He made people in His Image and Likeness, but please look at the verse, "Let us make man in our image..." God is three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, but we didn't learn that until Jesus came to earth to live with us, but right there in Genesis it says that God is plural. I don't think the Jews ever had any idea that God was 3 Persons.
I certainly agree. And if a black hole results fr... (show quote)


It is not missing, still there just not giving off visible light. Besides God never said that the universe does not change. Your basis of your statement is false stating that the universe according to the scriptures never changes which is a false statement thus all that follows in your thesis is irrelevant to the conversation.

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Dec 22, 2019 07:25:27   #
GalaxyCat Loc: Boston, MA
 
slocumeddie wrote:
How sad.....


Please don't be sad. Jesus can give you His Peace, just ask Him.

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Dec 22, 2019 07:30:31   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
WNC Ralf wrote:
God did NOTwrite the Bible, the Bible was written by men. Men who changed the book over the centuries to suit their needs.


That is also correct.
Read it in different languages and Christian sects over time and there have been some somewhat substantial differences. Also the Bible is a se******n of writings from different people over millennia. It is NOT a book with one writer and even in the Bible itself there are dozens of other "Books" considered as scripture that we no longer have. Dead Sea Scrolls show this, the compiling of the current Bible was originally a committee choosing which scriptures they liked and met their dogma of the time and which scriptures they would prefer to not include and hide from history even though referenced in the current compilation known as the Bible.

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Dec 22, 2019 07:31:09   #
Nalle Loc: Tellus
 
Architect1776 wrote:
OK, a black hole is a star that ran out of the reaction that kept it shining. It is still a star and is still there it has just burned out. Thus it is not missing it just quit emitting light as other younger stars do.
I believe the Bible says humans do not understand everything either.
We have not even come close to even creating a living blade of grass from "Nothing" or inert matter.
Discussion of God is silly in that you can not disprove his existence in any empirical way. Describe the taste of salt without me sampling it. I doubt you or anyone can do so. Same thing with God, how do you describe an infinitely (to us) powerful being in our limited ability to comprehend such a thing.
I for one will believe as I have said before. If wrong, no skin off my nose is right, thank God.
OK, a black hole is a star that ran out of the rea... (show quote)


And you can not prove his existence in any empirical way!

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Dec 22, 2019 07:32:21   #
GalaxyCat Loc: Boston, MA
 
WNC Ralf wrote:
God did NOTwrite the Bible, the Bible was written by men. Men who changed the book over the centuries to suit their needs.


I humbly disagree. The entire Bible is inspired by God's Holy Spirit. My mom gave me a St Joseph Edition of the Bible when I was in middle school, and I read it, a few chapters a night. I believe.

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Dec 22, 2019 07:40:08   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Nalle wrote:
And you can not prove his existence in any empirical way!


It is called faith.
Something you lack consciously.
So Prove he does not exist. You can not in any way do it so you are clueless in saying he does not exist and sound really stupid for such a statement.
I can at least say look at this planet alone and the miracle of life on it and say that is better evidence of a creator than not.
The complexity of the universe and all happening by accident makes infinitely less sense than believing in a creator, who by the way, we all know works in NATURAL ways and understands physics etc. in a far greater way than we do.

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Dec 22, 2019 07:44:25   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
GalaxyCat wrote:
God is so powerful that He spoke everything into existence in 6 days. On the 4th day, he "made the stars also."

The Bible says that we, humans, will never be able to count all the stars. And the Holy Spirit of God had that written long, long before telescopes or super-computers were invented.
The Bible says "God has counted all of the stars, and calls them all by name, and NONE of them is missing."

I am saying right here, right now, that a black hole is a "missing star", because not even light can escape a Black Hole. God says NONE of the stars are missing. Please go prove me wrong! Spend the rest of your life seeking the T***H.
God is so powerful that He spoke everything into e... (show quote)


WTF????

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Dec 22, 2019 07:49:44   #
GalaxyCat Loc: Boston, MA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
It is not missing, still there just not giving off visible light. Besides God never said that the universe does not change. Your basis of your statement is false stating that the universe according to the scriptures never changes which is a false statement thus all that follows in your thesis is irrelevant to the conversation.


How quick people want to make judgements! God's Love is so Great, that I know an UHH might turn to Him years from now, just from me speaking His Name. When St. Paul was in prison in Rome, before he was murdered for his faith, he rejoiced that people were talking about Jesus, even those who were trying to make life worse for him. He knew the Love and Power of the Name of Jesus. There were some people talking about Jesus with malice, even, and Paul knew it. Paul was rejoicing - go read it. God determined that by the foolishness of preaching, to save them that believe. "The foolishness of God is wiser than man."

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Dec 22, 2019 07:59:21   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
GalaxyCat wrote:
How quick people want to make judgements! God's Love is so Great, that I know an UHH might turn to Him years from now, just from me speaking His Name. When St. Paul was in prison in Rome, before he was murdered for his faith, he rejoiced that people were talking about Jesus, even those who were trying to make life worse for him. He knew the Love and Power of the Name of Jesus. There were some people talking about Jesus with malice, even, and Paul knew it. Paul was rejoicing - go read it. God determined that by the foolishness of preaching, to save them that believe. "The foolishness of God is wiser than man."
How quick people want to make judgements! God's L... (show quote)


Your point?
Discussing God is pretty silly anyway. those who do not believe are stuck in a narrow alley of thought limited by humans limited understanding of anything but some primitive and basic physics. They cannot comprehend that there is a being of greater intelligence.
PS God does not force us to act in any way or manner. He provides guidelines and you can choose to follow or ignore. Complete personal freedom to k**l, murder or do as you please here with no interference at this time. It is called personal responsibility just the opposite of democrats and socialism where we are forced to comply with the demands of a man made oppressive system.

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Dec 22, 2019 08:02:07   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
GalaxyCat wrote:
I certainly agree. And if a black hole results from a collapsed star, and no light can escape, and it cannot be observed, I propose that that star is "missing."
I'm an electronic engineer, and I got high grades. I enjoy studying Astronomy. A cesium atom clock in Boston and one in Denver will have a different time by approximately 60 microseconds. That's .00006 seconds. And those 2 clocks are separated by about 1 mile elevation difference in the earth's gravitational field. Time is affected by gravity. "In the last days, Knowledge shall be increased" . The Bible does not say our knowledge will be perfect. We think we are so great and so powerful. If we really knew how much God loves us, the whole earth would get saved, out of pure love and gratitude for our Creator. But people just like us were eating and drinking and living right up until the world wide flood. God saw that man's heart was evil continually, and He was sorry He made mankind. Noah believed God and built an ark. He tried to warn some people, but they laughed at him. A requirement of love is to have free will. God doesn't want robots. There is NO darkness in God. He is 100% Holy and Good. That's why he didn't make mankind in paradise already, oh yes, the garden of Eden was a paradise, the Tree of Life was there, we were never supposed to die. The Bible says that God saw that His Creation was very good. He made people in His Image and Likeness, but please look at the verse, "Let us make man in our image..." God is three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, but we didn't learn that until Jesus came to earth to live with us, but right there in Genesis it says that God is plural. I don't think the Jews ever had any idea that God was 3 Persons.
I certainly agree. And if a black hole results fr... (show quote)


what does love have to do with black holes??

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