Another Try at Bringing Together a Composite
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Dec 13, 2019 11:08:04 #
My attempt a few days ago to gather responses as to whether or not my composite image "held together" compositionally and content-wise was taken down because JoeJoe appealed to ADMIN for yet another widening of the meaning of "edit" not acceptable in the professional world of copyright. Here is another composite, same questions:
Do you think the composition and the content "hold together" the elements of the composite? The title is important for the content part: "Notre Dame Fire--Legacy Sequence."
Do you think the composition and the content "hold together" the elements of the composite? The title is important for the content part: "Notre Dame Fire--Legacy Sequence."
Dec 13, 2019 11:25:18 #
Who have you stolen these images from??
As you did not pay for the model or studio I employed /used for my shoot what gives you the right to steal that image. You did not pay for any element of it .. All you did was download my image ...slightly crop it then add an extremely large ugly border to it.... so why should you profit from it?? , That's not Art that is Theft as you cannot supply the model release form.... I can...
All I would say is you are the lowest of the low a Thief … And just to make certain there is no confusion ..It was reported as theft and a breach of UHH Rules and subsequently removed for that reason... Or do you think your above the rules... little bob... And as of yet no apology
As you did not pay for the model or studio I employed /used for my shoot what gives you the right to steal that image. You did not pay for any element of it .. All you did was download my image ...slightly crop it then add an extremely large ugly border to it.... so why should you profit from it?? , That's not Art that is Theft as you cannot supply the model release form.... I can...
All I would say is you are the lowest of the low a Thief … And just to make certain there is no confusion ..It was reported as theft and a breach of UHH Rules and subsequently removed for that reason... Or do you think your above the rules... little bob... And as of yet no apology
Dec 13, 2019 11:45:13 #
JoeJoe wrote:
Who have you stolen these images from?? br br As ... (show quote)
It's sad that you are so ignorant of copyright law and art/photography practice, even though I have tried to explain it to you.
For those unsure of what is and is not doable in or with your photos: Copyright law PROTECTS my use of JoeJoe's photo. There is a huge difference between my modifying his photo in my personal expression (protected) or my copying it and selling or advertising it as mine (🚫 forbidden).
i fear that the narrowness of JoeJoe, or perhaps more accurately, his brazen broadening of even the "editing" rules here on UHH, coupled with the acquiescence of the powers that be, lessen respect for this generally helpful site among professionals.
Dec 13, 2019 12:12:45 #
artBob wrote:
little bob you are a thief … plain and simple.... Did you pay for the Model??? No …. Did you Hire the venue?? No... Are you teaching in this forum?? No (your not teaching on here only posting ). ….. Is this for higher level purposes?? NO (your not teaching on here only posting )... Can you supply a model release form?? No
so you are quite simply a one trick pony who steals others images because you don't have any ability yourself then try to hide behind some deluded opinion you have..Be careful everyone on this forum as this man honestly believes he has a right to your images....
YOU ARE A THIEF..... plain and simple a little man with no apparent talent other than to download others images...
Look at my signature and follow the rules ...
Dec 13, 2019 12:30:06 #
JoeJoe wrote:
little bob you are a thief … plain and simple.... ... (show quote)
Since you cannot or will not reply to specifics, it seems you may too ignorant or irrational to respond to. All points regarding rules here and copyright law have been laid out, and settled. When you are ready to go forward with any relevant points, I'll be happy to address them. Meanwhile, reasoned discussion is impossible.
P.S., I wonder where all the members crying out "hijacking" are now. Friends?
TO THE REST OF YOU:
Please ignore this hijacking of past behaviors. As the creator of the work shown now, I really count on your responses to the questions of composition and content.
Dec 13, 2019 12:33:50 #
artBob wrote:
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You are a Thief.... No threat of libel … YOU ARE A THIEF ….. I wonder why he hasn't brought up the libel card... Because he is a Thief who got caught... little bobbie artbob the Thief ,..... ROBERTSTANLEY the Thief
Dec 13, 2019 12:42:43 #
artBob wrote:
It's sad that you are so ignorant of copyright law... (show quote)
AB I'm sorry that you have been cursed with a defective "comprehender". As has been pointed out before what is at issue with your use of other members work is not the copyright law but the rules of this website. This site. although open to the public, is a private enterprise. This entitles it to set its own standards and rules of behavior. You insist on violating that and then attempt to justify your childish behavior by offering your interpretation of US copyright law. Sorry but in this private enterprise US Copyright be damned, it does not apply.
Dec 13, 2019 12:54:28 #
Rich1939 wrote:
. Sorry but in this private enterprise US Copyright be damned, it does not apply.
??? If it does not apply then it is theft... And he is a thief
Dec 13, 2019 13:18:31 #
Cany143
Loc: SE Utah
JoeJoe wrote:
Who have you stolen these images from?? br br As ... (show quote)
Don't feel all alone, JoeJoe. This OP 'appropriated' an image I'd posted (here on UHH) as well, and disregarded my expressed (in a PM-ed exchange between us) wish that he not do with it what he shortly thereafter did. When I saw what he'd done, I essentially blew it off. Because:
While getting my undergraduate degree, I learned in one or another of the Ethics classes I'd taken that absolutely anything can be justified ethically. Murder, mayhem, theft, you name it; there's always some convoluted way that a negative act or a fraudulent position can be justified. Especially by someone who apparently lacks an ethical base.
Myself, I have better things to do than argue with a stone.
Dec 13, 2019 13:27:09 #
artBob wrote:
My attempt a few days ago to gather responses as t... (show quote)
Suppose we give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe all of the components of this image came from the public domain, not UHH.
Either way, the result is amateurish. It could have been assembled in an elementary school art class or as a summer camp arts and crafts effort. It just looks like a bunch of image cutouts randomly dropped on a table and moved around to minimize the overlaps.
Dec 13, 2019 13:30:38 #
Rich1939 wrote:
AB I'm sorry that you have been cursed with a def... (show quote)
Totally wrong. I recognize and follow the rules here. I do think, and speak out, that it would be a better site if it were in compliance with the rules of society at large.
Why can you not get this?
Why do you excuse your hijacking of my content and request here?
Dec 13, 2019 13:34:11 #
selmslie wrote:
Suppose we give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe all of the components of this image came from the public domain, not UHH.
Either way, the result is amateurish. It could have been assembled in an elementary school art class or as a summer camp arts and crafts effort. It just looks like a bunch of image cutouts randomly dropped on a table and moved around to minimize the overlaps.
Either way, the result is amateurish. It could have been assembled in an elementary school art class or as a summer camp arts and crafts effort. It just looks like a bunch of image cutouts randomly dropped on a table and moved around to minimize the overlaps.
I get your drift, but since you write no specifics--say, about color distribution, contrasts leading to a particular type of composition--you have an opinion without basis, except, one hopes not, personal animosity.
If you posses some knowledge about composition, feel free to share where the work has failed or, perish forbid, succeeded.
Dec 13, 2019 13:38:52 #
Cany143 wrote:
Don't feel all alone, JoeJoe. This OP 'appropriat... (show quote)
Did your ethics include not lying? You have done that here. I respected what you wrote me when I asked if I might use part of your image, and you said okay. Put up the whole exchange, and let others judge the truth, rather than your slander. Your opinions are worth nothing if you lie, you know.
Why the lying and personal hate?
Dec 13, 2019 13:40:18 #
To all members of this forum:
I am sorry that my past skirmishes seem to have attracted toxicity to this valuable site.
I am sorry that my past skirmishes seem to have attracted toxicity to this valuable site.
Dec 13, 2019 13:43:29 #
Cany143
Loc: SE Utah
artBob wrote:
Did your ethics include not lying? You have done that here. I respected what you wrote me when I asked if I might use part of your image, and you said okay. Put up the whole exchange, and let others judge the truth, rather than your slander. Your opinions are worth nothing if you lie, you know.
Why the lying and personal hate?
Why the lying and personal hate?
Ok:
sent on: Oct 17, 2019 22:39:02
artBob wrote:
In your post of the Dragon Trail there was a photo That expands my usual interest in some of my art, where the history of our development is part of where we/I are now (example attached). I would note the source of that element in an art log I keep, and would likely take out the foliage and deepen the dark cleft to look more like a cave entrance.
Bob-- Your request is not entirely clear. If you're asking about pulling a particular element/detail out of whichever of the images that might've caught your interest, go right ahead. If instead you're interested in modifying parts or all of that image, and then somehow incorporating the result of that manipulation into some work of yours, I'd prefer you did not. --Jim
Cany143
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