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Dec 13, 2019 01:45:31   #
John7199 Loc: Eastern Mass.
 
I recently saw an exhibit of Infrared film photos and it got me to wondering - Is Infrared possible with a DSLR? If yes How?

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Dec 13, 2019 02:33:50   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
If you do not get your DSLR converted , you would need to purchase an IR filter to fit the lens. The filters are very dark, so tripod needed, as the exposures would range from 10 seconds to 30 seconds. Converted cameras will be the best bet for hand-held shorter exposures, and the ability to view through the normal viewfinder, compose, focus etc. I had a Nikon D70 converted, no regrets.

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Dec 13, 2019 06:37:28   #
pecohen Loc: Central Maine
 
Pablo8 wrote:
If you do not get your DSLR converted , you would need to purchase an IR filter to fit the lens. The filters are very dark, so tripod needed, as the exposures would range from 10 seconds to 30 seconds. Converted cameras will be the best bet for hand-held shorter exposures, and the ability to view through the normal viewfinder, compose, focus etc. I had a Nikon D70 converted, no regrets.


Actually you need to get your DSLR converted and you need to purchase an IR filter.

DSLR cameras generally have a filter fitted over the sensor which blocks IR (most of it). Very little IR will reach the sensor. There are IR filters designed to block visible light and if you add one of these to the existing filter that blocks IR, the only light that reaches the sensor is the small amount of leakage that manages to get through these two filters. Your exposures will have to be very long before you get any image at all. And incidentally, you will find focusing extremely difficult because no image is visible and auto-focus will not work.

Converting the camera means removing the filter built into your camera that blocks IR. If you stop there you have what is sometimes called a full-spectrum camera. Actually that is a bit of a misnomer because the sensor is not designed to capture IR and it only captures the upper end of the IR spectrum; still such a full-spectrum camera takes interesting photos and such a camera is particularly good for astronomical shots.

If you add an IR filter to attach externally then you have a variety of choices to filter out all but some narrow band of IR and you will get different effects with different IR filters. Generally the images will have a very strong red cast so post-processing is advisable to produce a monochrome image.

Another option is to include an IR blocking filter in the conversion process. In this case, a filter is added inside the camera; the camera is less versatile but arguably more convenient to use.

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Dec 13, 2019 09:10:45   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
pecohen wrote:
Actually you need to get your DSLR converted and you need to purchase an IR filter.

DSLR cameras generally have a filter fitted over the sensor which blocks IR (most of it). Very little IR will reach the sensor. There are IR filters designed to block visible light and if you add one of these to the existing filter that blocks IR, the only light that reaches the sensor is the small amount of leakage that manages to get through these two filters. Your exposures will have to be very long before you get any image at all. And incidentally, you will find focusing extremely difficult because no image is visible and auto-focus will not work.

Converting the camera means removing the filter built into your camera that blocks IR. If you stop there you have what is sometimes called a full-spectrum camera. Actually that is a bit of a misnomer because the sensor is not designed to capture IR and it only captures the upper end of the IR spectrum; still such a full-spectrum camera takes interesting photos and such a camera is particularly good for astronomical shots.

If you add an IR filter to attach externally then you have a variety of choices to filter out all but some narrow band of IR and you will get different effects with different IR filters. Generally the images will have a very strong red cast so post-processing is advisable to produce a monochrome image.

Another option is to include an IR blocking filter in the conversion process. In this case, a filter is added inside the camera; the camera is less versatile but arguably more convenient to use.
Actually you need to get your DSLR converted and y... (show quote)


I'm glad I agreed with most of what you wrote!

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Dec 13, 2019 15:02:49   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
John7199 wrote:
I recently saw an exhibit of Infrared film photos and it got me to wondering - Is Infrared possible with a DSLR? If yes How?


Yes you can, you can do it the old fashioned way ( just as it was with film, using filters), or you can have a camera converted to take infrared images only, there are quite a few companies that provide that service. Or you can shoot as always and convert your images to infrared in pp!

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Dec 13, 2019 16:18:26   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
speters wrote:
Yes you can, you can do it the old fashioned way ( just as it was with film, using filters), or you can have a camera converted to take infrared images only, there are quite a few companies that provide that service. Or you can shoot as always and convert your images to infrared in pp!


You can't convert images to infrared in pp. You can make it look something like infrared, but it's not an image created by IR light. Some IR websites don't allow fake software IR. I do a lot of IR with a converted camera, and I can guarantee you can't get the results I get with software alone.

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Dec 13, 2019 17:45:18   #
John7199 Loc: Eastern Mass.
 
Thanks!

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Dec 13, 2019 17:54:57   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
John7199 wrote:
I recently saw an exhibit of Infrared film photos and it got me to wondering - Is Infrared possible with a DSLR? If yes How?


Take a look at this site:

https://www.lifepixel.com/

Or this site:

https://kolarivision.com/

These are two companies that specialize in IR conversion. But even without converting a camera, there is a lot of good information on IR Photography on these two sites.

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Dec 14, 2019 06:04:44   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
IR is easy to achieve with DSLR, without conversion, but the exposure time is L o n g. For minimal cost you can convert an older camera easily DIY. My conversion took me about an hour with 15 minutes fining my d---d screwdriver set!

IR discussion: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-547605-1.html

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Dec 14, 2019 07:50:31   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
JimH123 wrote:
Take a look at this site:

https://www.lifepixel.com/

Or this site:

https://kolarivision.com/

These are two companies that specialize in IR conversion. But even without converting a camera, there is a lot of good information on IR Photography on these two sites.

Those are excellent sites. I’ve used both companies to convert cameras to infrared. I highly suggest converting a camera to infrared. It makes shooting very easy no tripod needed.

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Dec 14, 2019 08:53:18   #
John Howard Loc: SW Florida and Blue Ridge Mountains of NC.
 
Go to lifepixel.com and read the tutorials. They do conversions and explain the process of managing the files and color swapping. I had an old Sony mirrorless converted and it makes very striking BW images. It is great because mid-day is the best time to shoot IR, when you don't want to be shooting regular light. Also, read about the lens you use. Because the IR light bends slightly differently, you are better off with a mirrorless camera that focuses on the sensor. You can also get a hot spot in the center of the image due to the reflections inside the lens. I had to experiment with quite a few lenses to find one that did not have this problem, which is more frequent on zoom lenses. Have fun.

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Dec 14, 2019 08:58:45   #
Flickwet Loc: NEOhio
 
Does the auto focus of a DSLR work accurately in IR, or is focus compensation necessary?

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Dec 14, 2019 10:14:57   #
Bike guy Loc: Atlanta
 
I sent my old Panasonic LUMIX to Kolarivision for a conversion to a 720 wavelength IR camera. I can focus, choose f stop, shutter speed etc. Minimal cost for a small camera like this.
I’m having lots of fun experimenting with it.
I have actually taken some interesting,eerie photos with it.

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Dec 14, 2019 11:07:27   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
dpullum wrote:
IR is easy to achieve with DSLR, without conversion, but the exposure time is L o n g. For minimal cost you can convert an older camera easily DIY. My conversion took me about an hour with 15 minutes fining my d---d screwdriver set!

IR discussion: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-547605-1.html


Yep, if you’re handy at all it’s very easy. I wanted to play with IR without making a big investment so I bought an old Lumix Z7S on eBay and followed online instructions. It took minutes. I bought a stick on filter ring and a cheap set of filters on Amazon and I was in business.

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Dec 14, 2019 11:12:07   #
Flickwet Loc: NEOhio
 
Flickwet wrote:
Does the auto focus of a DSLR work accurately in IR, or is focus compensation necessary?


Yes, focus compensation is necessary, I just looked it up

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