DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

I use the LR/PS CC a lot. Most of my stuff goes into LR but about 10% goes from LR to PS and back. I install the updates as they are presented to me. I don't really pay that much attention since it always works when it gets updated and I can play with new features when I have some free time, but I don't check them out right away.

I recently had a jpg generated by a scanner which I put into my LR current catalog. I wanted to edit it in PS so I clicked Ctrl-E (Win10) and selected "edit original" since I hadn't done anything to it in LR. PS did what I wanted it to do so when I was finished I hit Ctrl-S to save it. Previously that sent the psd file to LR. This time it didn't. It saved the psd file to the disk but didn't shove it into LR, at least it didn't shove it into the catalog.

Deleted the psd file and tried again, same result. Deleted it again, restarted both programs, same result.

Deleted the psd file and tried again, checking "edit with LR edits" although there weren't any edits in LR. This time it put the psd into LR.

So I was curious and since the PS edits were pretty simple, I deleted the psd again and deleted the and tried it all again, trying to keep track of what was actually happening.

I was working with a file 1391.jpeg. My preferences are set so that when I edit in PS the file should come back as 1391CC20.psd.

(1) send to PS with "edit copy with LR edits". Edit in PS. Save. File returns as a psd with the expected name (with CC20 added to the original file name.

(2) send to PS with "edit copy". The first thing that happens is that a new catalog entry is generated with the name 1391CC20.jpeg. A new file appears in the directory with that name. No edits. It's the same as the original. Did some edits in PS. Saved it (Ctrl-S). A dialog is generated giving me the opportunity to edit the file name to something other than 1391CC20.psd. (It used to do this). Accept that file name and hit OK to save. It saves. Going back to LR, I have two images in the catalog, 1391.jpeg and 1391CC20.jpeg. No 1391CC20.psd. The jpegs are the same, no edits. So PS did not hand the psd back to LR.

(3) send to PS with "edit original". Jpeg appears in PS to be edited. No other files are generated yet. Edit in PS. On save, the dialog gives me the opportunity to change the name to something other then 1391.psd, without the desired addition of "CC20" to the filename. When I accept that filename, the 1391.psd is saved to the directory but is not handed back to LR.

Looks like a new bug to me, but before I complain to Adobe I wanted to see if anyone else has noticed this?
Haven't tried it with a raw file yet.

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

My CC gets updated automatically and so far I can not see any changes, but I do not have LR, so I'm probably in a whole other situation.

DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area

A few quick thoughts -
- Where is the file being saved?
- What happens if you do a Save As, instead of a plain Save?
- What happens if, without deleting the file, you restarted LR?
- Did you check the sort order in LR? Is the file appearing, but, perhaps, at the bottom of the list as the most recently edited?

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

The file has always been saved to the directory the original file came from. That has not changed.
I tried restarting both LR and PS. No change in behaviour.
This was done on a very small catalog and I can see all the catalog entries. Just to be sure I searched for "1391" and only the original is in there.

Have not tried "save as" but I doubt that it would affect anything. I have used it in the past and even if I change the filename from the template it still got handed back to LR.

The problem was noticed on my desktop. I tried my laptop and got the same results.

wsnyder Loc: Illinois

I've found LR & PS to be very complicated. I've had similar problems. Lost files etc. Finally switched to Luminar and Affinity and never had a regret. Since I don't do heavy post processing, they are more than enough. Add to that they both have a gentle learning curve and one time pricing.

via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP

Did you recheck all your preferences in LR and PS, just to be sure they are still correctly set? I have not had a problem at this point.

anotherview Loc: California

Suggestion: You could do all your photo editing in PCC. Then you'd simplify your file management. I understand that LR has its attractions, though.

Revet Loc: Fairview Park, Ohio

I use Lightroom Classic and Photoshop exactly as you do using Windows 10. I did a trial and sending an image to PS using Ctrl E, editing in PS, and then saving with Ctrl S works fine in my system (saves edited image back to Lightroom as a .psd file.

Make sure you have "Stack with Original" checked in the External Editing Preference Tab otherwise it will put the .psd file at the end of all your photos in that folder.

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

I think you created the “bug “ when you edited the original.

When you “edit in” in Lightroom, you are presented with a dialog and choose to edit original or a copy. When you edit a copy, Lightroom creates a copy in the format specified (tiff or psd) then launches photoshop on the copy, when you finish work in photoshop and save the changes it is not “sending “ the file back into your catalog, it is already there, created by Lightroom. When you edit the original, there is no stacked file to work on since it is using the original.

You can easily confirm this by watching the filmstrip when you do an edit in. You should see the new file created in Lightroom ( also watch the top left of the screen for the status bar text)

sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD

Just watched a tutorial in Lynda on going back and forth from LR to PS. The advice was to almost always choose the first choice "Edit with Lightroom changes", not original or copy. That is the way it works. The tutorial explains why this is, I don't remember the details.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

I'm not complaining about the appearance of another jpeg, what bothers me is that the psd file doesn't get handed back to LR from PS. It used to happen.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

That appears to be the way it works now. It wasn't always that way.
Two months ago the psd file was handed back to LR no matter what choice I made.

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

Ps never handed back anything, that is the point. Lightroom creates a tiff or psd that gets handed to Photoshop, then Photoshop edits and saves the tiff/psd and saves the info to a lightroom created and cataloged Stacked copy, unless you edit original. Editing original passes the original file to Photoshop, so no new file is created by Lightroom. Of course you cannot edit an original raw.

You can do a save as in Photoshop, and save a new file to the same folder, but it will not auto import the new file into Lightroom.

rmcgarry331

When sending a file from Lightroom Classic into Photoshop, you are presented with 3 choices: “Edit a Copy with Lightroom Adjustments”; “Edit a Copy”; “Edit Original”. For the first two Lightroom creates a PSD file (or tiff depending on your settings) and sends that file to Photoshop for editing. It also registers that file and adds it to the top of the stack, over your original image. When you select edit original, Lightroom passes the original file to Photoshop and assumes that any edits will be saved in the same file. When you saved your changes in Photoshop, a new PSD file was created by Photoshop, that Lightroom was not expecting. This is not new behavior, as Lightroom has worked this same way as long as I have used it (Lightroom 5.0).

The only time you should select edit original, is when you are doing additional edits on a PSD file, and do not want an additional version. In a scanning workflow, use edit a copy to send your file to Photoshop and this will preserve your original scan in Lightroom.

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.