Upgrade from Canon T5 to 80D ?
Dec 5, 2019 14:28:46 #
I have an 80D and love it. Using it I can shoot in lower light, and the articulated touch screen makes life easier. However, I doubt it takes better shots than my T2i, other than the greater pixel count.
Dec 5, 2019 14:43:02 #
Dec 5, 2019 17:40:56 #
PHRubin wrote:
I have an 80D and love it. Using it I can shoot in lower light, and the articulated touch screen makes life easier. However, I doubt it takes better shots than my T2i, other than the greater pixel count.
I had a 60D and Sony A77II and I can say the 80D blows both away !
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Dec 5, 2019 19:06:45 #
Did you reach any limitation with the t5? I’m asking that because the last time I used the t3 I realized the the focusing system, exposure composition, ISO wasn’t how I need it. Now I have the Nikon d810 what I love to my Minolta xg1.
Right now I’m investing time and money in seeing light, posing people.......just my two sense.....
Right now I’m investing time and money in seeing light, posing people.......just my two sense.....
Dec 5, 2019 20:03:22 #
Dec 5, 2019 20:57:09 #
Dec 5, 2019 22:13:31 #
For whatever its worth, I had the T5i, and purchased an 80D as a step up. I LOVE the 80D, and have no regrets - still have the T5i and trying to pass it on to my Granddaughter. A year ago, I purchased the 5D Mark IV, and I use it as a primary camera, and have a the 80D with a different lens as a backup...
Just my opinion, but I don't think you will be disappointed in the 80D
Just my opinion, but I don't think you will be disappointed in the 80D
Dec 6, 2019 00:59:43 #
You are getting advice in different directions. Many are recommending an upgrade in the body, while CHG CANON in particular is saying your improvement will go farther with better use of technique and post-processing software. Assuming you can't do both, then I agree with CHG CANON. A better body will improve things, somewhat, but technique and post-processing will give you the greatest improvement. I have the t5i (the same as your t5 in the ways that matter), and the difference between what I do now versus 3 years ago is like night and day. Technique and post.
Dec 6, 2019 09:29:45 #
80D absolutely. So flexible, excellent in low light, articulated viewer enables very high and very low shots, etc., etc. Don't hesitate!
Dec 6, 2019 16:38:23 #
Dec 6, 2019 16:50:13 #
DPP is the free software that comes with Canon body. You can also download it from the Canon website with a valid body serial number... There are videos on its use on the website and on YouTube. It is post processing, storage and camera remote control software.
LITTLEBIT wrote:
DPP? DDP-4? What are these? Post processing software??
Dec 6, 2019 17:16:02 #
Thank you. I ask since I own a Canon T5i. This maybe a stupid question, but I’m going to ask it. Us this software something that is in the camera or is it a computer software program designed for Canon cameras.
Dec 6, 2019 17:28:38 #
It is software to load on your computer. If you ever need to upgrade your camera internal firmware you do that by downloading the firmware to your computer then either connect the camera to the computer or write the new firmware to a camera card and insert that into the camera to upgrade the firmware in the camera. I updated my camera firmware a few weeks ago using the card in the camera method.
DPP is sort of like a Lightroom light post processing software in my experience. It has improved over the past 10 years for sure though. They also offer a utility that allows you to control your camera from your computer. Both are decent starting points considering they are free and if you don’t already use post processing software.
DPP is sort of like a Lightroom light post processing software in my experience. It has improved over the past 10 years for sure though. They also offer a utility that allows you to control your camera from your computer. Both are decent starting points considering they are free and if you don’t already use post processing software.
LITTLEBIT wrote:
Thank you. I ask since I own a Canon T5i. This maybe a stupid question, but I’m going to ask it. Us this software something that is in the camera or is it a computer software program designed for Canon cameras.
Dec 6, 2019 19:08:29 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
I agree with a lot of the other responses.... you don't really need a new camera and you've got some good lenses too.
You need to learn to "see". The biggest thing with all your image examples is that they look like snapshots... taken quickly without any planning or much forethought.
For example, if that mission is near you, go back and spend some hours.... maybe even a full day... just wandering around it and looking for things that catch your eye, then figure out how to capture them in the best possible way with your camera. Take what you've got... and maybe not even all of it... and DON'T buy more gear. That will just make matters worse. You can get "lost" in too much gear, never really getting the best out of it.
Also learn some post-processing techniques. There are many things that can be done, too much all at once... but can be learned over time. I've been using Photoshop since the mid-1990s, but am still learning new tricks with it. For most people I'd recommend something simpler and with more guided modes, such as Adobe Elements (it has Beginner, Intermediate and Expert modes).
You picked a very difficult subject photographing a black cat! (I know this because I have your cat's twin sitting here glaring at me with much the same expression, wanting her dinner right now.)
This portrait of a friend's cat was photographed some years ago with a much less capable camera than yours.... a 6MP Canon 10D:
Notice the background in the above image. I shot by window light alone, so it went very dark, but I still had to retouch out a little detail that showed up. I did little other than that to the image. It was shot with a standard 50mm lens, which works very well for portraits on crop cameras like ours... acting as a short telephoto. I used a fairly large f/2.8 aperture to blur down the background as much as possible... But also not "wide open" so that there was enough depth of field to capture the whole cat reasonably sharply focused, but also because I know from experience that lens isn't particularly sharp wide open at f/1.4 and that it sharpens up very nicely when slightly stopped down.
Looking at your cat photo, the first thing I noticed was that there's some slight greenish "eyeshine"... the reflection of the flash from the cat's eyes. That photo is very sharp and has lots of fine detail! But the flash is a little too strong, too... Causing the image to be slightly over-exposed. That's because all metering systems try to render things "middle tonality". A black subject will tend to be overexposed. A white cat would tend to be underexposed. Your camera and mine have Exposure Compensation that allows us to adjust for this. It's something you can learn to use, over time. The first thing to do is simply start noticing when things you're photographing are unusual tonality... not "average", but darker or lighter than usual. Flash also tends to look a little cool.
I hope you don't mind, I took your cat photo into Photoshop to fix the redeye (using a color replacement tool and burning in the blackness a little). I also dialed back exposure slightly overall, but put a mask in it so that I could "bring back" the detail in the cats fur. Finally I boosted color saturation a little, which brightened the cat's eyes and slightly warmed the overall image (if it hadn't warmed it, I could have added a warming filter). See what you think:
You need to learn to "see". The biggest thing with all your image examples is that they look like snapshots... taken quickly without any planning or much forethought.
For example, if that mission is near you, go back and spend some hours.... maybe even a full day... just wandering around it and looking for things that catch your eye, then figure out how to capture them in the best possible way with your camera. Take what you've got... and maybe not even all of it... and DON'T buy more gear. That will just make matters worse. You can get "lost" in too much gear, never really getting the best out of it.
Also learn some post-processing techniques. There are many things that can be done, too much all at once... but can be learned over time. I've been using Photoshop since the mid-1990s, but am still learning new tricks with it. For most people I'd recommend something simpler and with more guided modes, such as Adobe Elements (it has Beginner, Intermediate and Expert modes).
You picked a very difficult subject photographing a black cat! (I know this because I have your cat's twin sitting here glaring at me with much the same expression, wanting her dinner right now.)
This portrait of a friend's cat was photographed some years ago with a much less capable camera than yours.... a 6MP Canon 10D:
Notice the background in the above image. I shot by window light alone, so it went very dark, but I still had to retouch out a little detail that showed up. I did little other than that to the image. It was shot with a standard 50mm lens, which works very well for portraits on crop cameras like ours... acting as a short telephoto. I used a fairly large f/2.8 aperture to blur down the background as much as possible... But also not "wide open" so that there was enough depth of field to capture the whole cat reasonably sharply focused, but also because I know from experience that lens isn't particularly sharp wide open at f/1.4 and that it sharpens up very nicely when slightly stopped down.
Looking at your cat photo, the first thing I noticed was that there's some slight greenish "eyeshine"... the reflection of the flash from the cat's eyes. That photo is very sharp and has lots of fine detail! But the flash is a little too strong, too... Causing the image to be slightly over-exposed. That's because all metering systems try to render things "middle tonality". A black subject will tend to be overexposed. A white cat would tend to be underexposed. Your camera and mine have Exposure Compensation that allows us to adjust for this. It's something you can learn to use, over time. The first thing to do is simply start noticing when things you're photographing are unusual tonality... not "average", but darker or lighter than usual. Flash also tends to look a little cool.
I hope you don't mind, I took your cat photo into Photoshop to fix the redeye (using a color replacement tool and burning in the blackness a little). I also dialed back exposure slightly overall, but put a mask in it so that I could "bring back" the detail in the cats fur. Finally I boosted color saturation a little, which brightened the cat's eyes and slightly warmed the overall image (if it hadn't warmed it, I could have added a warming filter). See what you think:
Dec 6, 2019 19:14:27 #
amfoto1 wrote:
and you've got some good lenses too.
This is the main reason you need a better camera !
And yes, ultimately, better technique, vision, and post processing - mostly coming from knowledge and experience ...
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