Hard Drive Use
Dec 6, 2019 12:46:16 #
Harry0
Loc: Gardena, Cal
frankraney wrote:
Almost all hard drive failures occur on startup because of surges. 15 years ago or so when I was working we had the computers all over the place in the failure on them almost always occurred from smoke and dust getting into the drives. I'll leave mine on 24/7 and reboot twice a week the clear out everything haven't had a problem on my systems personally in over 15 years.
Speaking of which, a minor segue ...
A FOAF was upgrading an older PC.
3 HDDs, a 512mb GPU, 4gb ram, DVD drive.
He pulled the GPU and installed a pair of 4gb GPUs, and changed out the ram to 8gb.
When he used the DVD, it would stutter, blink, shutdown, or reboot. Changed the DVD.
Did the same thing. We fingered it out, when he said sometimes he had to reboot at startup.
He had an old 450 watt power supply- and two 175 watt GPUs. Label- 325 running, 450 surge.
That old PSU could barely work at all, and just a little more surge tripped the thermal breaker.
A trip to Frys for a 650 watt PSU fixed that problem. And our next concern was if any data was being corrupted. Both booting up and blowing up, he couldn't have been getting needed consistent power.
Dec 6, 2019 13:34:41 #
Longshadow wrote:
Curious.
SSD is electronics, TV is electronics, should I leave my TV on also?
Any chance you know the MTBF for hard vs. electronic drives so as to compare?
SSD is electronics, TV is electronics, should I leave my TV on also?
Any chance you know the MTBF for hard vs. electronic drives so as to compare?
SSD's have between 1.2 and 1.5 million hours MTBF. Let me know in 136 years if yours fails.
For a spinning platter drive, BackBlaze (backup service) says between 3 - 5 years, but that is for drives that are in 24/7 use and never enter sleep mode. Seagate's Ironwolfs has a 1 million hour rating, so there you go.
Dec 6, 2019 14:35:21 #
Harry0 wrote:
Speaking of which, a minor segue ... br A FOAF was... (show quote)
Your absolutely correct..... An overloaded power supply will cause havoc also, on the system.
Dec 6, 2019 16:13:08 #
TonyBrown wrote:
I have Toshiba and WD hard drives. The Toshiba is over a year old and the WD is fairly new. So far the Toshiba has been fine(fingers crossed). However, I do have one question. Is it better to shut the hard drive down after each use or keep it running. I know that external drives are prone to failure and it would be helpful to know if there is any increased risk of failure with continually shutting down or keeping the drive connected to my computer.
Keep in mind that only cloud backup gives you complete protection. I use Carbonite. If you have irreplaceable files, don't rely exclusively on any hard drives for backup.
Dec 6, 2019 16:21:32 #
aellman wrote:
Keep in mind that only cloud backup gives you complete protection. I use Carbonite. If you have irreplaceable files, don't rely exclusively on any hard drives for backup.
👍👍 everyone needs a 3rd off-site copy of their data for disaster recovery, and if you have a decent internet connection, a major cloud provider is hard to beat.
Dec 6, 2019 20:17:44 #
aellman wrote:
Keep in mind that only cloud backup gives you complete protection. I use Carbonite. If you have irreplaceable files, don't rely exclusively on any hard drives for backup.
Isn't the cloud hard drives. Just higher quality than what the average home owner gets?
Don't get me wrong. I use the cloud also..... But they are hard drives?
Dec 6, 2019 20:56:59 #
frankraney wrote:
Isn't the cloud hard drives. Just higher quality than what the average home owner gets?
Don't get me wrong. I use the cloud also..... But they are hard drives?
Don't get me wrong. I use the cloud also..... But they are hard drives?
Yes, they are gigantic arrays of servers configured as RAID5 with spinning platter Hard Drives. I've seen several Data Centers and it is nothing but racks and racks of servers and drives.
Dec 6, 2019 21:17:17 #
frankraney wrote:
Isn't the cloud hard drives. Just higher quality than what the average home owner gets?
Don't get me wrong. I use the cloud also..... But they are hard drives?
Don't get me wrong. I use the cloud also..... But they are hard drives?
Yes, they are, but they are also in hardened data centers, professionally administered, with redundant power, networking, servers and storage, but most importantly, the major providers keep at least 3 copies of your data at different geographic locations - a level of redundancy and resiliency that you cannot possibly duplicate at home.
Dec 7, 2019 19:59:24 #
frankraney wrote:
Isn't the cloud hard drives. Just higher quality than what the average home owner gets?
Don't get me wrong. I use the cloud also..... But they are hard drives?
Don't get me wrong. I use the cloud also..... But they are hard drives?
They are raid array drives. The chances of losing
your data with a company like Carbonite are so
small they can't be measured.
Dec 7, 2019 20:20:32 #
aellman wrote:
They are raid array drives. The chances of losing
your data with a company like Carbonite are so
small they can't be measured.
your data with a company like Carbonite are so
small they can't be measured.
My point was not really a question, but a statement. They are all hard drives....
Dec 7, 2019 22:29:57 #
frankraney wrote:
My point was not really a question, but a statement. They are all hard drives....
Quite true, but their security is so far beyond any local drives.
Dec 7, 2019 23:20:40 #
aellman wrote:
Quite true, but their security is so far beyond any local drives.
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.