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Dec 2, 2019 15:31:20   #
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Creating a tiff from a raw file and saving both a tiff and a jpg.
When you print both of them at 24x36 should you be able to see a difference in quality?
Both printed at 300dpi.

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Dec 2, 2019 15:55:34   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
One way to short-cut the question is to confirm if your printer will accept a TIFF? Will they take a TIFF at 16-bit? Do they have file size limits for a TIFF?

After that, what pixel per inch resolution (ppi) is your image? Will you achieve / desire a 300 ppi print? If yes, is your file at least this pixel resolution?

24 in x 300 ppi = 7200 pixels
36 in x 300 ppi = 10800 pixels

Whether you create a 16-bit TIFF or 8-bit JPEG, if the pixel dimensions do not calculate to the size above, you can set dpi to any value between 1 and infinity with no impact on printing your digital image. Keep in mind, your larger print might use a lower pixel resolution such as 250 ppi or even 200 ppi. Ask your printer too what colorspace(s) they support, and provide the colorspace that meets their requirements.

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Dec 2, 2019 16:02:22   #
NCMtnMan Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC
 
Unless you're printing them yourself, it will depend on what the print shop accepts as to file type and size.

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Dec 2, 2019 16:57:32   #
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I am printing on a wide format Canon iPF 765. Image ProGraf
Not sure of the specs.

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Dec 2, 2019 16:57:53   #
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I am printing on a wide format Canon iPF 765. Image ProGraf
Not sure of the specs.

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Dec 2, 2019 17:12:43   #
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Yes I can print a tiff image with that printer. Should I be able to see a difference?
I am using a Nikon D850 (8256 x 5504)resolution.

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Dec 2, 2019 17:43:16   #
Hamltnblue Loc: Springfield PA
 
Here's the specs of your printer:
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/support-imageprograf-printers/imageprograf-ipf765-mfp/imageprograf-ipf765-mfp

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Dec 2, 2019 17:47:22   #
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I can't determine what the color space is nor if it could print either 8 or 16 bit prints.
What am I missing? - thx

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Dec 3, 2019 06:52:00   #
jerseymike
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
One way to short-cut the question is to confirm if your printer will accept a TIFF? Will they take a TIFF at 16-bit? Do they have file size limits for a TIFF?

After that, what pixel per inch resolution (ppi) is your image? Will you achieve / desire a 300 ppi print? If yes, is your file at least this pixel resolution?

24 in x 300 ppi = 7200 pixels
36 in x 300 ppi = 10800 pixels

Whether you create a 16-bit TIFF or 8-bit JPEG, if the pixel dimensions do not calculate to the size above, you can set dpi to any value between 1 and infinity with no impact on printing your digital image. Keep in mind, your larger print might use a lower pixel resolution such as 250 ppi or even 200 ppi. Ask your printer too what colorspace(s) they support, and provide the colorspace that meets their requirements.
One way to short-cut the question is to confirm if... (show quote)


Now I understand why there are business that do this sort of thing for you.

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Dec 3, 2019 07:04:56   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
more-or-less wrote:
Yes I can print a tiff image with that printer. Should I be able to see a difference?
I am using a Nikon D850 (8256 x 5504)resolution.


Does the print driver convert the tiff to 8 bit jpeg in order to print? Unless you have a RIP with the printer, it may be unlikely it supports 16 bit wide gamut images. In any case, there is only so much quality you can expect from a 8 yr old, 5 color printer.

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Dec 3, 2019 08:56:22   #
domcomm Loc: Denver, CO
 
Always remember that jpeg (and its newer version, png) is the lowest quality format available. Eps and tiff are the highest quality. Pdf can also be high quality if set to 300dpi.

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Dec 3, 2019 10:17:02   #
philo Loc: philo, ca
 
domcomm wrote:
Always remember that jpeg (and its newer version, png) is the lowest quality format available. Eps and tiff are the highest quality. Pdf can also be high quality if set to 300dpi.

so when i print on a canon pro 100 printer I would be better off printing from a tiff vs. a jpeg. Is this correct?

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Dec 3, 2019 11:34:58   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
more-or-less wrote:
I can't determine what the color space is nor if it could print either 8 or 16 bit prints.
What am I missing? - thx


All toner and inkjet color printers use CMYK as their base color space.
The Gamut, actual colors they can print, is dependent upon the printer and the inks that are used.
More advanced printers have actual rips that allow calibration to a standard. Desktop printers typically do not allow for this interaction.

Color Management is an itch

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Dec 3, 2019 12:01:22   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
8 bit is absolutely fine for printing, and anyway, most printers do not support printing from 16 bit files. Here are the words of an expert:

I've printed 16-bit and 8-bit per color documents (the later from the former) on a printer who's driver does support sending the high bit data through the driver (very few provide this). I saw NO difference. When I measured the differences doing the same with color patches, the measured differences were below visibility (differences well below a dE of 1).--

Andrew Rodney
Author: Color Management for Photographers
The Digital Dog
http://www.digitaldog.net

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Dec 3, 2019 12:09:16   #
dick ranez
 
I believe the IPF 765 was a engineering drawing printer not a photo printer so it may not make a difference. The Canon photo printers are 8 or 12 color machines with a model number in the thousands - 5000, etc.

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