I need help: I just got back from a trip to Portugal with 4200 photos, cr2, jpeg and heic. I have spent hours in On1 Raw 2020 culling, adding a description, adjusting time and deleting...

Francyne Loc: Bromont, Qc

I just got back from a trip to Portugal with 4200 photos, cr2, jpeg and heic. I have spent hours in On1 Raw 2020 culling, adding a description, adjusting time and deleting unwanted photos. Yesterday I noticed that jpeg and heic photos have the same number about halfway into the photos so On1 is a mess. I click on a photo I see in develop and another photo opens. I am looking for an easy/simple solution. I hope this is clear as English is not my first language. Thank you in advance

BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere

Without a lot of thought on this...

Why not move your CR2, JPEG and HEIC files into their own folders?
ON1 is not a cataloging system, as is LR so, you have to point your ON1 Browser to a specific folder when you want to view/open/edit.

Francyne Loc: Bromont, Qc

Doing that would imply culling 3 times. Too much work. There must be a simpler way. I thought of deleting the HEIC files that I had not viewed and renumbering them.... thank you for your reply.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

When you have the RAW, what use are the other files?

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

CHG_CANON wrote:

When you have the RAW, what use are the other files?

I only save the JPEG because I peruse the shots in Windows Explorer (and don't have/want a RAW viewer driver for Windows). Plus it's also easier for my wife to view the images without learning an editor.
I don't take a bazillion photos a year either.

If I used a cataloger (that displayed the RAW files), I would not save the JPEG.

Hip Coyote

Assuming all files are from the same camera, I agree with CHG CANON. I often shoot both jpeg and raw. The jpegs are small for social media and sharing whilst traveling. But once I get home I just keep all the raw photos.
Separate out by file type, and if it all works out, get rid of the other files. Also, 4000 photos should be culled down to a lot less than that. A couple hundred maybe. Also your English is fantastic!

PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA

If you are on a Windows PC (and maybe on a Mac), you can
1) view the folder the files are in using windows explorer
2) Sort on extension
3) Highlight all CR2 types.
4) Move them to a new folder
5) Repeat 3 & 4 for HEIC
6) problem solved

Francyne Loc: Bromont, Qc

I agree with you that 4000 photos should be culled and that is what I am trying to do. I sorted the photos by date which allows me to see photos taken at the same location. Photos come from a Canon, a Panasonic and from an iPhone. Canon and Panasonic are jpegs. Even if I remove the jpegs taken with the Canon camera, problem remains. Thank you

National Park

RWebb76 wrote:

Assuming all files are from the same camera, I agree with CHG CANON. I often shoot both jpeg and raw. The jpegs are small for social media and sharing whilst traveling. But once I get home I just keep all the raw photos.
Separate out by file type, and if it all works out, get rid of the other files. Also, 4000 photos should be culled down to a lot less than that. A couple hundred maybe. Also your English is fantastic!

Cull 4000 photos to a couple hundred? Not me!!! I am a glutton for keeping nearly every photo I’ve taken unless they are out of focus, unduly repetitive, or too underexposed or overexposed to fix. I also learn from looking at my bad photos. Most of my photos are travel photos and I keep them all because they are a record of my journeys. Storage is cheap, and I don’t show others my bad photos-usually I’ll show others only 80-90 photos of my trips even though I’ve saved a couple thousand photos.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

National Park wrote:

Cull 4000 photos to a couple hundred? Not me!!! ... (show quote)

Same method, same reasons.

Even though they may not be hangers, they are still memories of the trip.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

Longshadow wrote:

I only save the JPEG because I peruse the shots in Windows Explorer (and don't have/want a RAW viewer driver for Windows)...

Why the heck not?

The FastPictureViewer codec only costs $10, is a very small/quick download and works really well!

Once it's installed, it just works in the background and allows you to see virtually any RAW file as a thumbnail right in Explorer (your choice of three sizes: medium, larger or extra large). Or you can enlarge an image for a closer look in Windows Photo Viewer. Works with most camera makers' RAW files (I've tried Canon, Nikon, Olympus and Pentax, as well as DNG... do far, haven't found any it CAN'T view). Also allows other types of image files to be seen directly in Explorer, such as TIFF, PSD, etc.

I've been using it for years and have it installed on two laptops and a desktop.

It's a big time saver, not having to open a program that can view the RAW files.

It also saves having to shoot everything RAW + JPEG, filling up memory cards and hard drives much faster with the duplication.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

amfoto1 wrote:

Why the heck not?
...
...

Simple, I don't feel like doing so.

Been working with computers, files, programming, etc., for over 45 years.
(Also, I've no problem keeping track of files without a cataloger.)

Just because something exists, or is the latest & greatest, doesn't mean I have to use it.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

I use FastRawViewer for culling. Another for-pay product, but cheap and way more efficient than an image editor.

rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA

Francyne wrote:

I agree with you that 4000 photos should be culled and that is what I am trying to do. I sorted the photos by date which allows me to see photos taken at the same location. Photos come from a Canon, a Panasonic and from an iPhone. Canon and Panasonic are jpegs. Even if I remove the jpegs taken with the Canon camera, problem remains. Thank you

I don't see how you are going to get out of this unless you separate the images into different folders or set different naming conventions for each device. Which might be simplest. Change the name of the Canon files to FRCN, the Pansonic LMIX and whatever the iPhone is, since Apple prolly won't let you change.

Francyne Loc: Bromont, Qc

For the time being, I give up on On1 Photo Raw 2020. I'll use PSE and see if it's easier with that software. Thank you everybody for your help.