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Nov 27, 2019 10:45:11   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
I've tried 3 versions of Luminar and couldn't stand the DAM in V3. I settled on Luminar Flex which has no DAM and runs much faster than V2018 or V3 on an 8gig ram Windows machine. So if you don't need the asset manager I would recommend Flex. Eventually I think they will add the new AI features from Luminar 4 to it.

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Nov 27, 2019 10:50:23   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
bigguytf wrote:
I have 8 gigs of ram on a Mac Mini that is a 2017 version. I notice it seems to take a long time to have the picture come up that you want to edit.


Luminar4 runs like a speed demon on my iMac with 64 gigs. Maybe increase your ram from the basic low end starter kit?

Cheers!

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Nov 27, 2019 10:54:20   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
bigguytf wrote:
No it was uncalled for. You took it from a question that maybe needed more information to a sarcastic mocking response.

First rule of every public forum site I have been on, is it you cannot say something nice, don't say anything at all. CycleSpeed pointed out in the post before that that more information was needed and I replied.

You tried to mock the question, implying the use of over 19 year old computer using 5.25 floppy dissc. That was not needed.

In reviews of the Luminar program various reviewers have noted it was sluggish. I have it on two computers and it is sluggish compared to PS Elements and LR.
In November Luminar 3 has had a problem with the program giving owners a reading that it could not import pictures due to lack of disk space on a persons computer. I had over 500 Gigs in my computer and the program would not import photos. While I received good technical support, it took a while to get it corrected.

Getting it corrected involved the following
Download AppCleaner from here (click this text to open link).
Install AppCleaner and start it.
Drag Luminar from your Applications folder into the AppCleaner window. When removing Luminar, mark all the files and folders in the list, except for DPA6233TPQ.com.macphun.luminar3.
Once you've uninstalled Luminar, restart your Mac and download a fresh version of Luminar from here (click this text to open link).

Maybe my question did not fit your guidelines of what a good question should be, but you decided to react with sarcasm that was not needed.

If you cannot say something nice, keep you hands off the computer keys and don't type anything at all. Wait it out.
No it was uncalled for. You took it from a questi... (show quote)



Rude or not...8 gigs of ram is not enough to run such a program. Add the ram and speed problem disappears, add hard drive space and all is well. So simple, let’s move on.

Cheers!

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Nov 27, 2019 11:23:02   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
bigguytf wrote:
So Luminar 4 is have some specials for Black Friday - Is the new version faster than the old one? Luminar 3 has had some problems with running out of disk space as you download files. Does that seem to have been fixed.

Like the program, just seems to be really slow to work with.


I haven’t noticed it to be any faster than Luminar 3. In fact, my system has hung several times and once I end Luminar 4 in Task Manager the system comes back. I’m running Windows 10 on a 4 year old I 5, 16GB memory and 1TB SSD.

My PSE 14 runs much faster. Having been a software developer in a prior life I would consider L4 an upgrade over L3. There are a number of AI features added and they’ve redone the GUI. I’ll just say that for me personally with all the hype on L 4 I am a little disappointed with the release. Would I buy it again ($49 upgrade)? Yes, to me it’s still worth it.

It’s been my experience that when a young company like Skylum releases an upgrade, it takes 6+ months to shake out bugs and to improve overall system performance. You will be seeing . point releases. PS/LR are much more mature products and therefore more stable and perform well.

I’m personally going to hang in there with Luminar 4 for the next year or so and see how it goes. It’s still a very powerful program, especially for the money.

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Nov 27, 2019 12:21:28   #
peaceoflight
 
fredpnm wrote:
Perhaps - but you don't make it easy for folks here to help with your issues if you don't provide much information on the hardware you are using.

I've used L3 for some time now and have never had an issue of running out of disk space. How large a HD are you using, how much RAM, what type computer - Win or Mac...

To make the reader assume is unfair...and you can't expect much useful help with so limited information.

...and frankly I think the comment is called for if it will help wake up readers to think about what they are asking and what kind of information might help another UHH reader to provide potential solutions.
Perhaps - but you don't make it easy for folks her... (show quote)


I thought it was funny and more tongue-in-cheek, as opposed to sarcastic. I've worked in IT and software development for close to 40 years, which involves a lot of troubleshooting, testing, sometimes responding to defect reports.

The number of times problems are reported without any supporting details is innumerable. When that occurs, it essentially wastes everyone's time, because instead of getting on with business, researching the problem, identifying a solution, time must be taken to ask basic questions. It lengthens the entire cycle to resolution and closure.

Tom

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Nov 27, 2019 12:44:42   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
bigguytf wrote:
So Luminar 4 is have some specials for Black Friday - Is the new version faster than the old one? Luminar 3 has had some problems with running out of disk space as you download files. Does that seem to have been fixed.

Like the program, just seems to be really slow to work with.

I have a fairly fast laptop (i7 CPU, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD with gaming video card) and Luminar 4 is NOT performance software. I've never used Luminar 3 but '4' is considerably slower than Lightroom!

bwa

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Nov 27, 2019 12:47:29   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Fredrick wrote:
I haven’t noticed it to be any faster than Luminar 3. In fact, my system has hung several times and once I end Luminar 4 in Task Manager the system comes back. I’m running Windows 10 on a 4 year old I 5, 16GB memory and 1TB SSD.

My PSE 14 runs much faster. Having been a software developer in a prior life I would consider L4 an upgrade over L3. There are a number of AI features added and they’ve redone the GUI. I’ll just say that for me personally with all the hype on L 4 I am a little disappointed with the release. Would I buy it again ($49 upgrade)? Yes, to me it’s still worth it.

It’s been my experience that when a young company like Skylum releases an upgrade, it takes 6+ months to shake out bugs and to improve overall system performance. You will be seeing . point releases. PS/LR are much more mature products and therefore more stable and perform well.

I’m personally going to hang in there with Luminar 4 for the next year or so and see how it goes. It’s still a very powerful program, especially for the money.
I haven’t noticed it to be any faster than Luminar... (show quote)

Tup, Luminar 4's 'bang-for-the-buck' is excellent BUT there are a few things Skylum has to fix... Stability is the most important to me. bwa

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Nov 27, 2019 12:52:12   #
bigguytf
 
Thanks to all for your responses, I learned quite a bit reading them.

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Nov 27, 2019 12:52:16   #
bigguytf
 
Thanks to all for your responses, I learned quite a bit reading them.

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Nov 27, 2019 13:29:23   #
SpyderJan Loc: New Smyrna Beach. FL
 
Revet wrote:
Thus far Luminar 4 runs far better than Luminar 3 on Windows 10.


I agree. Those are my thoughts also.

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Nov 27, 2019 13:43:05   #
RichardE Loc: California
 
secular wrote:
I am running Luminar 4 on a 27” iMac late 2013 model with 32 gig ram and 3 T hard drive. Luminar 4 runs much better and faster than 3 on my setup. It isn’t lightning fast but my computer is “old” in computer years. Version 3 was prone to crashing. Version 4 has only crashed once and I have been using it intensively since upgrading. I find the layout for editing tools much better. I have used the sky replacement to fill in washed out skies in pictures with limited amounts of sky area rather than replacing large areas of sky and the results are good. I did move all of my pictures to a single external drive, 1.8 T worth, and am not sure if having all data on one drive verses two is a speed factor or not.
I am running Luminar 4 on a 27” iMac late 2013 mod... (show quote)


Exactly the same as my system but for my external 4TB hard drive with 30,000 photos. I have no problems and it seems faster. I am using a test 'folder' of about 100 photos for now. I will possibly see an initial slow start once I initially add my main folder of photos. But should load faster after that. L3 was alwasy slow to startup.

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Nov 27, 2019 14:03:41   #
bkinnie Loc: Pennsylvannia, living in Florida
 
fredpnm wrote:
Perhaps - but you don't make it easy for folks here to help with your issues if you don't provide much information on the hardware you are using.

I've used L3 for some time now and have never had an issue of running out of disk space. How large a HD are you using, how much RAM, what type computer - Win or Mac...

To make the reader assume is unfair...and you can't expect much useful help with so limited information.

...and frankly I think the comment is called for if it will help wake up readers to think about what they are asking and what kind of information might help another UHH reader to provide potential solutions.
Perhaps - but you don't make it easy for folks her... (show quote)


I can vouch for this, I've been running a trial of L4 on two different machines for the last 8 days, the first is a Dell with 8 gb of memory and it's not slow at all, the second is an HP Laptop with 4 gb of memory. Of course the laptop is slower. I'm not blaming L4, I'm blaming the equipment. By the way I did the same edits using both machines because I was entered in a contest.

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Nov 27, 2019 14:15:17   #
poprock48
 
can we all just play nice in the sand box

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Nov 27, 2019 14:55:01   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
Agreed too. No need for that

As far as Luminar 4 if you go to the FB group of skylum issues you will see people’s experiences vary. In my case it is the slowest pp software I own on iMac running with 64 GB ram off fast SSD. Not unusable but not fast and I wish it had some type of indicator of progress. On1 Raw 2020 remains my fastest software with Apple Photos, LightRoom , PSE, Topaz Studio 2 , Luminar 4 and then the Topaz plugins which are unusable so I haven’t upgraded them beyond trials besides On1 does everything they do without having to buy $100 plugins

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