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Nov 13, 2019 20:29:18   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
Seeing a photo of some chair shadows that was unmoving, I wondered if those chairs could be made into something somewhat more challenging, along the theme of chairs. Starting with them and a general flowing background, I brought in some photos I liked, started moving them around in a matrix of time and nature/abstract. These elements suggested more photos to bring in. Using layers of different types and blending, transforming scale and sometimes direction, gradually over several hours the work began to seem to come together. The intent had clarity in my mind and the color and composition worked in a flow-and-eddy rhythm.

This may be somewhat unusual to some. They and all others are invited to write anything, from thoughts and emotions to technical comments. A wise man said we learn even more from our mistakes, because when pointed out they add to our knowledge. Positive comments help reinforce good ideas and techniques.


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Nov 14, 2019 06:18:22   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
The idea is nice, but I lack a contast of element sizes, a structure that would draw my eye--a composition.

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Nov 14, 2019 07:02:57   #
Stephan G
 
kymarto wrote:
The idea is nice, but I lack a contast of element sizes, a structure that would draw my eye--a composition.


I see the flow as being counter-clockwise, starting with the shadow of the running girl at the 6:30 position. To me, it does suggest a story line. The story line gets more complex at each pass of the starting point. It is not a static vision. It changes every time I look at it. It can be an exercise in free-wheeling associations.



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Nov 14, 2019 08:04:38   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
I just don’t get it, Bob. Sorry.

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Nov 14, 2019 08:44:07   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
I agree with jaymatt, comes across as a few things on a background...

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Nov 14, 2019 09:26:35   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
artBob wrote:
Seeing a photo of some chair shadows that was unmoving, I wondered if those chairs could be made into something somewhat more challenging, along the theme of chairs. Starting with them and a general flowing background, I brought in some photos I liked, started moving them around in a matrix of time and nature/abstract. These elements suggested more photos to bring in. Using layers of different types and blending, transforming scale and sometimes direction, gradually over several hours the work began to seem to come together. The intent had clarity in my mind and the color and composition worked in a flow-and-eddy rhythm.

This may be somewhat unusual to some. They and all others are invited to write anything, from thoughts and emotions to technical comments. A wise man said we learn even more from our mistakes, because when pointed out they add to our knowledge. Positive comments help reinforce good ideas and techniques.
Seeing a photo of some chair shadows that was unmo... (show quote)


You will be sure to return the chairs when you have done with them, won't you Bob?

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Nov 14, 2019 09:41:13   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
Thanks, you all. This is a strange way to work, I know.. What I've learned so far helps me understand how the communication goes—or doesn't.

Please check back in a day or so if you can; I am going to write my reasons for the scale and my composition fitting into, or not, being a big part of my intent/"story." Your inputs on those will again be helpful.

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Nov 14, 2019 10:13:05   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
At first glance I saw it as a poster for hogsters that complain about pp all the time.

My second thought is there is a LOT of art that I just don't get, so I probably shouldn't be commenting on a work of art.

My third thought is it might look good hanging in a doctor or dentist office.

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Nov 14, 2019 10:22:27   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
BigDaddy wrote:
At first glance I saw it as a poster for hogsters that complain about pp all the time.

My second thought is there is a LOT of art that I just don't get, so I probably shouldn't be commenting on a work of art.

My third thought is it might look good hanging in a doctor or dentist office.

BigDaddy (LOVE that), all of us "don't get" some art, music......whatever. I don't "get" the taste of root beer. That's fine, although it never hurts to expand. (I REALLLY didn't get Country, but have come to like it now.)

A suggestion: an honest comment is always fair (well, as we've seen, "sometimes" is more truthful). If you wrote, for example, I don't get a feeling from this, but I like the brass-color in the background, only a defensive artist (unbelievably, there are such--who woulda guessed!) would sneer.

My turn, what does "a poster for hogsters that complain about pp all the time" mean? That it's an example for traditional photographers of a bad thing? THAT is probably true.

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Nov 14, 2019 10:22:31   #
Stephan G
 
artBob wrote:
...A wise man said we learn even more from our mistakes, because when pointed out they add to our knowledge. Positive comments help reinforce good ideas and techniques.


Another wise man said that we also learn from our successes, when we listen and understand why we succeeded.



(Old age does come with some perks!)

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Nov 14, 2019 10:27:25   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
Stephan G wrote:
Another wise man said that we also learn from our successes, when we listen and understand why we succeeded.



(Old age does come with some perks!)


Both your statements get an "Amen!" from me.

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Nov 14, 2019 15:21:50   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
We had a artist friend who was constantly painting chairs, shadows of chairs et al. I didn't understand her art either. Sorry!

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Nov 14, 2019 15:39:56   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
A good artist works hard at clarity. This often means that you can start to get a clue of what the art is about by squinting, to see the contrasts showing what kind of composition (lively, quiet, etc.), looking at the colors (jumbled, dynamic, peaceful, happy, sad), noticing the tonal scale (bright, contrasty, soft, etc.) and filtering that in with the subject matter if there is some.

Also, like hamburgers, wines, beers.....the more you experience, the better your knowledge and test become.

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Nov 14, 2019 16:45:08   #
srt101fan
 
artBob wrote:
Seeing a photo of some chair shadows that was unmoving, I wondered if those chairs could be made into something somewhat more challenging, along the theme of chairs. Starting with them and a general flowing background, I brought in some photos I liked, started moving them around in a matrix of time and nature/abstract. These elements suggested more photos to bring in. Using layers of different types and blending, transforming scale and sometimes direction, gradually over several hours the work began to seem to come together. The intent had clarity in my mind and the color and composition worked in a flow-and-eddy rhythm.

This may be somewhat unusual to some. They and all others are invited to write anything, from thoughts and emotions to technical comments. A wise man said we learn even more from our mistakes, because when pointed out they add to our knowledge. Positive comments help reinforce good ideas and techniques.
Seeing a photo of some chair shadows that was unmo... (show quote)


Makes me think of some of Paul Klee's works. I have a positive reaction to it but don't really know why. (And no, I'm not that familiar with Klee's work!)

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Nov 14, 2019 17:57:46   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
srt101fan wrote:
Makes me think of some of Paul Klee's works. I have a positive reaction to it but don't really know why. (And no, I'm not that familiar with Klee's work!)

What an unexpected comment. But, very enlightening. Klee, whom I like very much too, often did have a "musical" popping-about composition in his works. I'll have to go back and look some more--maybe learn something from a Master.

Thank you.

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