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Nov 13, 2019 08:52:27   #
Marlz
 
Taking delivery on the Sony RX10IV with great excitement. I am wondering about the claim of it being "weather sealed." Photography in northern WI gets tricky in the winter. First challenge is to keep fingers from falling off! Second thing is to give the camera adequate protection when returning to the warmth of indoors. Is this camera sealed against condensation? Is that what "weather sealing" means, or does it still need to sit awhile wrapped in plastic? Looking also for a recommendation for photographer gloves that do not cost a fortune because I spent all monies on the camera! Thank you.

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Nov 13, 2019 08:57:56   #
Say Cheese Loc: Eastern PA
 
If I am in super cold weather, when I go inside, I always place the camera in a plastic bag until it warms up. I don't need condensation through out the camera,

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Nov 13, 2019 08:58:14   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Marlz wrote:
Taking delivery on the Sony RX10IV with great excitement. I am wondering about the claim of it being "weather sealed." Photography in northern WI gets tricky in the winter. First challenge is to keep fingers from falling off! Second thing is to give the camera adequate protection when returning to the warmth of indoors. Is this camera sealed against condensation? Is that what "weather sealing" means, or does it still need to sit awhile wrapped in plastic? Looking also for a recommendation for photographer gloves that do not cost a fortune because I spent all monies on the camera! Thank you.
Taking delivery on the Sony RX10IV with great exci... (show quote)


Weather sealed means what it says, very light snow, mist is OK, anything heavier, you may not like the results.

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Nov 13, 2019 09:16:32   #
Marlz
 
I am mainly wanting to know about condensation—cold to warm conditions.

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Nov 13, 2019 09:16:33   #
troutbum Loc: north central pennsylvania
 
In answer to your question here are words to live by( an ounce of prevention goes a very long way ), or better safe than sorry. Enjoy your new equipment, stay warm.

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Nov 13, 2019 09:17:28   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
A word to the wise: ALWAYS protect your camera when going from a heated room to outdoors. The opposite is also valid.

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Nov 13, 2019 09:38:57   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
I'm assuming that you are referring to condensation inside the camera and not on the surface of the lens.

Condensation is when the moisture contained in the air reaches its dew point temperature. This is relative to the temperature of the air and how much moisture it contains. For example, if the air inside the camera is consistent with that inside your home kept at 68-degrees and 20% relative humidity the dew point will be 25-degrees. The ability of air to hold moisture increases as the temperature increases. Many home owners install humidifiers to add moisture to their home during the winter.

There will always be air inside the camera for it is not practical to keep it in a vacuum (Mother Nature abhors a vacuum) and there is a difference between "air tight" and "weatherproof".

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Nov 13, 2019 09:42:23   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Weather sealed cameras and lenses do not necessarily mean waterproof. I visited Seattle, Washington, it rained, hard unexpectedly. I had a DSLR and lenses that were not weather sealed. And had to run for cover, to protect my camera and lens from the rain water. I wore no jacket. There are raincoats you can purchase for DSLRs and lenses. Just to play it safe, you might want to purchase one, if you plan to be in not so good weather, regularly.They are inexpensive. You can get one at B&H. Enjoy your new Sony RX10iv. It's the best Bridge camera today. I also own a 4 year old Nikon Bridge camera. It has a longer focal range than 600mm. But, it doesn't compare to your Sony, when it comes to IQ.

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Nov 13, 2019 09:44:05   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Marlz wrote:
Taking delivery on the Sony RX10IV with great excitement. I am wondering about the claim of it being "weather sealed." Photography in northern WI gets tricky in the winter. First challenge is to keep fingers from falling off! Second thing is to give the camera adequate protection when returning to the warmth of indoors. Is this camera sealed against condensation? Is that what "weather sealing" means, or does it still need to sit awhile wrapped in plastic? Looking also for a recommendation for photographer gloves that do not cost a fortune because I spent all monies on the camera! Thank you.
Taking delivery on the Sony RX10IV with great exci... (show quote)


You might consider a Ruggard DSLR Parka. On sale now for $50.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1163657-REG/ruggard_pac_lb_dslr_parka_cold_and.html

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Nov 13, 2019 11:55:22   #
JustJill Loc: Iowa
 
Marlz wrote:
Taking delivery on the Sony RX10IV with great excitement. I am wondering about the claim of it being "weather sealed." Photography in northern WI gets tricky in the winter. First challenge is to keep fingers from falling off! Second thing is to give the camera adequate protection when returning to the warmth of indoors. Is this camera sealed against condensation? Is that what "weather sealing" means, or does it still need to sit awhile wrapped in plastic? Looking also for a recommendation for photographer gloves that do not cost a fortune because I spent all monies on the camera! Thank you.
Taking delivery on the Sony RX10IV with great exci... (show quote)


I use POW gloves and like them. I think they are also a great company.

https://www.powgloves.com/collections/womens/products/pho-tog-glove-w19

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Nov 13, 2019 13:08:02   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Marlz wrote:
Taking delivery on the Sony RX10IV with great excitement. I am wondering about the claim of it being "weather sealed." Photography in northern WI gets tricky in the winter. The first challenge is to keep fingers from falling off! Second thing is to give the camera adequate protection when returning to the warmth of indoors. Is this camera sealed against condensation? Is that what "weather sealing" means, or does it still need to sit awhile wrapped in plastic? Looking also for a recommendation for photographer gloves that do not cost a fortune because I spent all monies on the camera! Thank you.
Taking delivery on the Sony RX10IV with great exci... (show quote)


I have used Vallerret gloves in temperatures down to 0 deg F.

https://us.photographygloves.com/?us/?us

I do, when it gets below 20 deg, keep finger tip exposed for a minimum amount of time.

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Nov 13, 2019 15:58:04   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
I'm assuming that you are referring to condensation inside the camera and not on the surface of the lens.

Condensation is when the moisture contained in the air reaches its dew point temperature. This is relative to the temperature of the air and how much moisture it contains. For example, if the air inside the camera is consistent with that inside your home kept at 68-degrees and 20% relative humidity the dew point will be 25-degrees. The ability of air to hold moisture increases as the temperature increases. Many home owners install humidifiers to add moisture to their home during the winter.

There will always be air inside the camera for it is not practical to keep it in a vacuum (Mother Nature abhors a vacuum) and there is a difference between "air tight" and "weatherproof".
I'm assuming that you are referring to condensatio... (show quote)

Warm air holding moisture as opposed to cold air holding the same amount of moisture is relative humidity vs absolute humidity. With regard to cameras, the main problem is moisture inside the camera. This has very little to do with sealing, as no camera is water proof. You have to realize that the lens is not the camera. Same thing applys to lenses, as no lens is waterproof

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Nov 13, 2019 18:55:18   #
jcboy3
 
Marlz wrote:
Taking delivery on the Sony RX10IV with great excitement. I am wondering about the claim of it being "weather sealed." Photography in northern WI gets tricky in the winter. First challenge is to keep fingers from falling off! Second thing is to give the camera adequate protection when returning to the warmth of indoors. Is this camera sealed against condensation? Is that what "weather sealing" means, or does it still need to sit awhile wrapped in plastic? Looking also for a recommendation for photographer gloves that do not cost a fortune because I spent all monies on the camera! Thank you.
Taking delivery on the Sony RX10IV with great exci... (show quote)


1. Use a bag. You avoid risking a problem, and you keep condensation from forming on the lens and EVF, which would prevent you from using the camera for quite some time.

2. Put an SLR ProDot Shutter Button on your shutter. I have them on all of my winter sports cameras. You can shoot with gloves on with these, so you only need to get exposed if you have to change settings. Set your camera so you don't need to adjust it, and you will be good at very low temps.

3. Get a pair of photo gloves, which allow you to just expose your finger rather than your entire hand. I have a pair of AquaTech, which also have a cord that lets you pull the glove and dangle it from your wrist, as well as openings for index finger and thumb. I also have a pair of ProMaster goves, that have slots you can stick your index finger and thumb through.

These are the shutter buttons;

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/925577-REG/custom_slr_pdred_prodot_shutter_release_button.html

Also, get hand warmers.

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Nov 13, 2019 19:46:33   #
Marlz
 
jcboy3 wrote:
1. Use a bag. You avoid risking a problem, and you keep condensation from forming on the lens and EVF, which would prevent you from using the camera for quite some time.

2. Put an SLR ProDot Shutter Button on your shutter. I have them on all of my winter sports cameras. You can shoot with gloves on with these, so you only need to get exposed if you have to change settings. Set your camera so you don't need to adjust it, and you will be good at very low temps.

3. Get a pair of photo gloves, which allow you to just expose your finger rather than your entire hand. I have a pair of AquaTech, which also have a cord that lets you pull the glove and dangle it from your wrist, as well as openings for index finger and thumb. I also have a pair of ProMaster goves, that have slots you can stick your index finger and thumb through.

These are the shutter buttons;

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/925577-REG/custom_slr_pdred_prodot_shutter_release_button.html

Also, get hand warmers.
1. Use a bag. You avoid risking a problem, and yo... (show quote)


On the shutter buttons, I read that they fall off. That was on Amazon. Does B & H have a better product? Do you have problems with them not adhering?

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Nov 13, 2019 20:26:11   #
jcboy3
 
Marlz wrote:
On the shutter buttons, I read that they fall off. That was on Amazon. Does B & H have a better product? Do you have problems with them not adhering?


I have had mine on me D750 and D500 for several years. Without falling off. But even if they did eventually, they are inexpensive.

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