Is a Leica M a mirror less camera
Nov 10, 2019 14:35:22 #
leicajah
Loc: Texas, grew up in Louisiana
I know it doesn’t have a mirror, but I’m not sure what the new mirror less cameras are all about
Nov 10, 2019 14:45:49 #
You "know" the Leica M doesn't have a mirror? Then how does the rangefinder work? All of my rangefinder, manual focus cameras have mirrors in them to focus by parallax.
Mirrorless autofocus cameras send the image to the viewfinder or rear screen directly, as well as to the memory card when you press the shutter release. They don't need a mirror, it is all electric.
Mirrorless autofocus cameras send the image to the viewfinder or rear screen directly, as well as to the memory card when you press the shutter release. They don't need a mirror, it is all electric.
Nov 10, 2019 14:51:00 #
leicajah wrote:
I know it doesn’t have a mirror, but I’m not sure what the new mirror less cameras are all about
The Leica M uses a
Electronic Front Curtain Shutter
1/4000 to 60 Seconds in Aperture Priority Mode
1/4000 to 8 Seconds in Manual Mode
0 to 60 Seconds in Time Mode
While a DSLR camera uses a mirror mechanism to either reflect light into an optical viewfinder, or pass it through directly to the camera sensor, a mirrorless camera completely lacks such mirror mechanism (hence the name), which means that the light passing through the lens always ends up on the imaging sensor.
I don't know the viewing mechanism the Leica M uses for the image viewing.it is not a mirror.
Nov 10, 2019 14:52:19 #
leicajah wrote:
I know it doesn’t have a mirror, but I’m not sure what the new mirror less cameras are all about
Depending on which model you're talking about. A number of them are strictly rangefinder. Some have liveview and can accept the optional EVF. The ones that are strictly rangefinder (M8, M9 and some variations of the current models) are not mirrorless. Those that have liveview and accept optional EVF are mirrorless.
Nov 10, 2019 15:17:37 #
leicajah wrote:
I know it doesn’t have a mirror, but I’m not sure what the new mirror less cameras are all about
Well, it doesn't have a focusing system that works through the taking lens. Neither do cell phones...
When most of us talk about mirrorless cameras here on UHH, we mean digital, mirrorless, interchangeable lens cameras, as opposed to single or twin lens *reflex* cameras. It's usually "dSLR or MILC" conversations.
MILCs have no mirrors. They have interchangeable lens systems, and usually (I would argue, SHOULD) use electronic viewfinders. They have a different set of "use case advantages" from dSLRs.
The Leica SL2 is a better example of a Leica mirrorless camera. It shares the same lens mount with Panasonic's new full frame system, and Sigma's full frame system. If I had to guess, I'd say the SL2 body has Panasonic Lumix electronics in its guts. Compare it with the Lumix S1R...
Nov 10, 2019 16:05:12 #
leicajah
Loc: Texas, grew up in Louisiana
I fully understand the workings and construction of Leica. I do “
Know” a less catty response would have been appreciated.
Know” a less catty response would have been appreciated.
Nov 10, 2019 16:15:06 #
leicajah wrote:
I fully understand the workings and construction of Leica. I do “
Know” a less catty response would have been appreciated.
Know” a less catty response would have been appreciated.
Use the “Quote Reply” option when addressing as specific post.
Nov 10, 2019 17:22:12 #
leicajah wrote:
I fully understand the workings and construction of Leica. I do “
Know” a less catty response would have been appreciated.
Know” a less catty response would have been appreciated.
I know that you know. So the definition of a MILC (Mirrorless for short) isn't about a camera without mirror. It's about a camera that offers a thru the lens viewing without the use of mirror for that purpose.
Nov 10, 2019 19:50:51 #
leicajah wrote:
I know it doesn’t have a mirror, but I’m not sure what the new mirror less cameras are all about
Mirrorless is one word. Mirrorless does not mean there are no mirrors of any kind in the camera, it means the camera does not have a reflex mirror in the view finder. All cameras that lack a reflex mirror, or translucent mirror, are considered mirrorless. Many people also use the word mirrorless to reference MILC'S which are interchangeable lens cameras that do not have a reflex or translucent mirror as part of the view finder.
Nov 11, 2019 08:11:33 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Mirrorless is one word. Mirrorless does not mean there are no mirrors of any kind in the camera, it means the camera does not have a reflex mirror in the view finder. All cameras that lack a reflex mirror, or translucent mirror, are considered mirrorless. Many people also use the word mirrorless to reference MILC'S which are interchangeable lens cameras that do not have a reflex or translucent mirror as part of the view finder.
Why didn't I hear of the term Mirrorless back in the 50's when cameras without the reflex mirror were plenty?
Nov 11, 2019 08:33:13 #
Nov 11, 2019 08:39:51 #
"Mirrorless" is used to define the difference between a removable lens camera (DSLR) that previously used a mirror and optical finder with a similar camera that no longer uses a mirror or mechanical optics in the finder. Electronics replaced all of it.
My 1990's 1 megapixel point and shoot is "Mirrorless," as were all compact point and shoots!
My 1990's 1 megapixel point and shoot is "Mirrorless," as were all compact point and shoots!
Nov 11, 2019 10:09:06 #
Yes, folks, all sorts of camera types are mirror-less. That hyphenated sequence describes smartphones and cell phones and point-and-shoot cameras and view cameras and twin-lens reflex cameras and probably others. However...
'Mirrorless' is the marketing term in common use to describe MILCs. A MILC has no mirror, but is an interchangeable lens camera somewhat similar to a dSLR, SLR, or 1950s rangefinder camera. The pentaprism has been replaced with an EVF, or the rangefinder has been replaced with an EVF. Some inferior models have no EVF, but use only a rear LED/LCD or OLED screen that is practically useless in daylight. Those gave early mirrorless models from Olympus and Panasonic a bad name. Mirrorless cameras with EVFs AND OLED touch screens are quite useful.
'Mirrorless' is the marketing term in common use to describe MILCs. A MILC has no mirror, but is an interchangeable lens camera somewhat similar to a dSLR, SLR, or 1950s rangefinder camera. The pentaprism has been replaced with an EVF, or the rangefinder has been replaced with an EVF. Some inferior models have no EVF, but use only a rear LED/LCD or OLED screen that is practically useless in daylight. Those gave early mirrorless models from Olympus and Panasonic a bad name. Mirrorless cameras with EVFs AND OLED touch screens are quite useful.
Nov 11, 2019 10:10:01 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Why didn't I hear of the term Mirrorless back in the 50's when cameras without the reflex mirror were plenty?
Did you check the UHH archives from the 1950s?
Nov 11, 2019 10:30:41 #
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