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Nov 5, 2019 23:52:05   #
tonyjag Loc: Bolton, Ma.
 
As promised in an earlier thread:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-617085-4.html
attached is a MS Word file containing a brief paper, which includes 6 annotated photos (taken by a Note8 because the D7500 was in the pictures).
It was motivated by having visions of my new D7500 falling onto the deck of the Nat Geo Explorer, into the sea, or down a crevasse somewhere in Antarctica. Following is a quick overview from the paper.

This brief paper discusses how two aspects of camera straps can be enhanced:
1. TRIPOD SOCKET ATTACHMENT. Enables the option of quickly attaching one end of the strap to the tripod socket at the bottom of the camera body, while still being able to use a tripod or monopod via a quick-release plate with four directions relative to the body.
2. IMPROVED SAFETY. Adds a Safety Loop for a more robust, fault-tolerant attachment to a DSLR or big lens.

The paper was reviewed and approved by Peak Design. Any questions or comments will be appreciated.

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Nov 6, 2019 05:51:10   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
tonyjag wrote:
As promised in an earlier thread:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-617085-4.html
attached is a MS Word file containing a brief paper, which includes 6 annotated photos (taken by a Note8 because the D7500 was in the pictures).
It was motivated by having visions of my new D7500 falling onto the deck of the Nat Geo Explorer, into the sea, or down a crevasse somewhere in Antarctica. Following is a quick overview from the paper.

This brief paper discusses how two aspects of camera straps can be enhanced:
1. TRIPOD SOCKET ATTACHMENT. Enables the option of quickly attaching one end of the strap to the tripod socket at the bottom of the camera body, while still being able to use a tripod or monopod via a quick-release plate with four directions relative to the body.
2. IMPROVED SAFETY. Adds a Safety Loop for a more robust, fault-tolerant attachment to a DSLR or big lens.

The paper was reviewed and approved by Peak Design. Any questions or comments will be appreciated.
As promised in an earlier thread: br https://www.u... (show quote)


I don't give a damn what the Guru says, the tripod socket is not made to support the weight of the camera and lens!! it is made to hold the camera to the tripod, upon which the camera is sitting, while the tripod socket in a camera with a metal frame is stronger, a composite frame (housing) has an insert molded into the base for the threads. the "plastic" will fail sooner or later, the metal frame will probably survive for a good while, you want to take a chance? go for it!! using the tripod collar (foot) if it is metal is probably a better idea, plastic, no way.

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Nov 6, 2019 06:26:27   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I don't give a crap what the folks a Peak express. The tripod thread is not meant or designed to be used for supporting a camera/lens hanging from it. It was made to assist fastening the camera to the top of a tripod. That's it.
--Bob
tonyjag wrote:
As promised in an earlier thread:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-617085-4.html
attached is a MS Word file containing a brief paper, which includes 6 annotated photos (taken by a Note8 because the D7500 was in the pictures).
It was motivated by having visions of my new D7500 falling onto the deck of the Nat Geo Explorer, into the sea, or down a crevasse somewhere in Antarctica. Following is a quick overview from the paper.

This brief paper discusses how two aspects of camera straps can be enhanced:
1. TRIPOD SOCKET ATTACHMENT. Enables the option of quickly attaching one end of the strap to the tripod socket at the bottom of the camera body, while still being able to use a tripod or monopod via a quick-release plate with four directions relative to the body.
2. IMPROVED SAFETY. Adds a Safety Loop for a more robust, fault-tolerant attachment to a DSLR or big lens.

The paper was reviewed and approved by Peak Design. Any questions or comments will be appreciated.
As promised in an earlier thread: br https://www.u... (show quote)

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Nov 6, 2019 06:34:59   #
Bobc163 Loc: Australia NSW
 
Have been using a similar set up for 4 years and 3 extended and rough trips and have not had a single problem
Canon 5dmkiii and customslr bracket and strap
Highly recommend their setup
Camera plate fixes to tripod fixing on camera but also fits across base of camera and added feature is that same bracket fits Manfrotto quick release or Swiss arca clamps without changing anything
By the way Antarctica is just simply amazing!!! If you are staying in Uschuia make s ure you get out and about ,there is so much to see and photograph in Chile and Argentina

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Nov 6, 2019 06:55:00   #
cedymock Loc: Irmo, South Carolina
 
From another UHH thread; someone asking about a cotton carrier, same question so I contacted Nikon here is their response.
Your support question has been answered by one of our team members.
Question details:
Nikons position on using the tripod socket to carry DSLR camera?
Created: 11/01/2019 by Email | Reference #: 03954031
Response from Diana L.
Thank you for contacting Nikon. We generally do not recommend using third party products with our products unless they come packaged together with it so we do not advise or recommend it.

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Nov 6, 2019 07:27:02   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
cedymock wrote:
From another UHH thread; someone asking about a cotton carrier, same question so I contacted Nikon here is their response.
Your support question has been answered by one of our team members.
Question details:
Nikons position on using the tripod socket to carry DSLR camera?
Created: 11/01/2019 by Email | Reference #: 03954031
Response from Diana L.
Thank you for contacting Nikon. We generally do not recommend using third party products with our products unless they come packaged together with it so we do not advise or recommend it.
From another UHH thread; someone asking about a co... (show quote)


Nice general, vague way of them saying "we only want you to buy our stuff."?

(Do they sell a tripod mount carrier strap? If not, that might be a good hint.)

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Nov 6, 2019 07:58:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Thanks for that.

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Nov 6, 2019 08:02:51   #
brian43053 Loc: Buffalo, NY
 
I have been using the tripod mount on my camera to attach my camera strap to ever since I started taking photos and have never had an issue - ever!! A metal screw that goes into the camera body seems stronger than the small clips that are on the side of the camera body

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Nov 6, 2019 08:08:01   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Apparently, you are unaware of the size of those "small" clips.
--Bob
brian43053 wrote:
I have been using the tripod mount on my camera to attach my camera strap to ever since I started taking photos and have never had an issue - ever!! A metal screw that goes into the camera body seems stronger than the small clips that are on the side of the camera body

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Nov 6, 2019 08:11:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rmalarz wrote:
Apparently, you are unaware of the size of those "small" clips.
--Bob

That and the fact that that's where straps have been attached for a thousand years.

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Nov 6, 2019 09:18:25   #
Canisdirus
 
Another stand on the head of a pin thread?
If you have a heavy lens, the manufacturers will include a tripod collar ... perfect attachment point.
If you have a lens that is not heavy, it will have no tripod collar ... body tripod mount is a perfect attachment point.

If you want to use the provided attachment points on the cam body ... fine
If you want to use the cam body tripod point ... fine.

Put it this way ... if this was a crisis hotline ... I would have hung up on the caller.

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Nov 6, 2019 09:24:27   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
tonyjag wrote:
As promised in an earlier thread:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-617085-4.html
attached is a MS Word file containing a brief paper, which includes 6 annotated photos (taken by a Note8 because the D7500 was in the pictures).
It was motivated by having visions of my new D7500 falling onto the deck of the Nat Geo Explorer, into the sea, or down a crevasse somewhere in Antarctica. Following is a quick overview from the paper.

This brief paper discusses how two aspects of camera straps can be enhanced:
1. TRIPOD SOCKET ATTACHMENT. Enables the option of quickly attaching one end of the strap to the tripod socket at the bottom of the camera body, while still being able to use a tripod or monopod via a quick-release plate with four directions relative to the body.
2. IMPROVED SAFETY. Adds a Safety Loop for a more robust, fault-tolerant attachment to a DSLR or big lens.

The paper was reviewed and approved by Peak Design. Any questions or comments will be appreciated.
As promised in an earlier thread: br https://www.u... (show quote)


Only yesterday I had yet ANOTHER customer in the store with a tripod socket mounted strap failure. This time on a Canon 5D MKIII. The threads of the tripod socket had literally been ripped out of the camera. At first glance they looked OJ, but nothing would catch the threads as they just no longer existed. This was with a Black Rapid strap. And it cost her a 24-105mm F4 lens which hit the ground first. Fortunately the camera appears OK but is now headed to Canon to replace the bottom panel.
People just never learn, unfortunately companies keep making these worthless straps and people keep buying them! Big waste of money.

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Nov 6, 2019 09:34:20   #
gmango85
 
Canon's new strap has the connection via the tripod socket and I don't trust it. You're dangling a $3000 camera and a $2000 lens by a small screw!

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Nov 6, 2019 10:16:07   #
Dbl00buk Loc: Orlando
 
tonyjag wrote:
As promised in an earlier thread:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-617085-4.html
attached is a MS Word file containing a brief paper, which includes 6 annotated photos (taken by a Note8 because the D7500 was in the pictures).
It was motivated by having visions of my new D7500 falling onto the deck of the Nat Geo Explorer, into the sea, or down a crevasse somewhere in Antarctica. Following is a quick overview from the paper.

This brief paper discusses how two aspects of camera straps can be enhanced:
1. TRIPOD SOCKET ATTACHMENT. Enables the option of quickly attaching one end of the strap to the tripod socket at the bottom of the camera body, while still being able to use a tripod or monopod via a quick-release plate with four directions relative to the body.
2. IMPROVED SAFETY. Adds a Safety Loop for a more robust, fault-tolerant attachment to a DSLR or big lens.

The paper was reviewed and approved by Peak Design. Any questions or comments will be appreciated.
As promised in an earlier thread: br https://www.u... (show quote)


So, I'm at Disney (Orlando) sitting in the monorail across from a guy with a DSLR (don't know the make, arm was across) attached was a big a$$ white lens. He had a black rapid (saw the logo) attached to the tripod socket. Looking hard and (as close as I could), I could see a slight outward bulge around the attached clip. That was enough for me. My Sony and 24-105 is and ALWAYS will be attached to the strap lugs.

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Nov 6, 2019 10:27:33   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I would NEVER attach a strap to the tripod mounting threads. Not only is there the possibility of it unscrewing, the threaded insert is typically embedded or screwed into plastic and was never designed to hold the weight of the camera plus a heavy lens. While I have seen multiple cases of that type of strap mount failing, I have never seen the conventional strap mounts break. If you use the tripod mount, you may or may not get away with it - depends on the camera body design/materials, weight of the camera plus lens and how long the entire weight is supported by a mount that was never designed for it.

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