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Nov 5, 2019 09:40:24   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Steven Seward wrote:
G****l W*****g is one of my pet topics. I used to study the science behind it and I decided it was all a big h**x.

Aside from that, the Paris Climate Accord is probably an even bigger h**x perpetrated to make countries feel better about themselves, and use the talking points to get re-elected by ignorant masses. There are absolutely no enforcements to compel countries to reduce their carbon emissions. In fact, as of a year ago, only 7 countries of the World have even put out a plan to reduce their carbon emissions to the Paris levels. These would be India (a big polluter), Bhutan, Costa Rica, Ethiopia, Philippines, Morocco, and Gambia (countries that would make zero difference if they went back to the Stone Age immediately.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/10/11/few-countries-are-meeting-paris-climate-goals-here-are-ones-that-are/

This will be the Kyoto Protocal all over again, when every single signatory country did not only fall short of their CO2 reductions, they didn't have any net reductions at all! Meanwhile, at the same time, the United States reduced its CO2 emissions by about 20%.
G****l W*****g is one of my pet topics. I used to... (show quote)


HEAR! HEAR!! HEAR!!

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Nov 5, 2019 10:05:32   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
sueyeisert wrote:
By the way trees absorb carbon and when they burn as in fires the carbon is released into the atmosphere.


And ... ?

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Nov 5, 2019 10:20:33   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Kraken wrote:
Everyone of us uses firewood.

C’mon, Kraken, stop pulling their legs. Fess up and tell the t***h — we heat our igloos by burning whale blubber. And a good romp under the seal skins makes for a warm and restful sleep.

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Nov 5, 2019 10:22:04   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
JohnFrim wrote:
C’mon, Kraken, stop pulling their legs. Fess up and tell the t***h — we heat our igloos by burning whale blubber. And a good romp under the seal skins makes for a warm and restful sleep.


Another great gift from the use of oil, it saved the whales and the world would be a lessor planet without them.

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Nov 5, 2019 11:24:10   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
JohnFrim wrote:
C’mon, Kraken, stop pulling their legs. Fess up and tell the t***h — we heat our igloos by burning whale blubber. And a good romp under the seal skins makes for a warm and restful sleep.


A seal walked into a bar and the bartender asked “What’ll you have?”

The seal answered “Anything but a Canadian club.”

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Nov 5, 2019 12:29:17   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
LWW wrote:
A seal walked into a bar and the bartender asked “What’ll you have?”

The seal answered “Anything but a Canadian club.”


Now THAT is one of the best things I have seen coming from you... THAT is GREAT!!!

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Nov 5, 2019 12:54:09   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Kraken wrote:
The Trump administration’s move Monday to start the clock on pulling out of the Paris climate agreement places the U.S. at odds with the entire rest of the world — once again — when it comes to committing to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The move has little practical effect for energy policy in the United States, where President Donald Trump is already dismantling Obama-era regulations on major sources of heat-trapping emissions such as power plants and automobiles.

But it hands a ready talking point to the Democrats running to replace him, all of whom have pledged to rejoin the agreement if Trump pulls out. And Trump's action is symbolically striking in the realm of international climate diplomacy, coming just weeks before nations are due to gather for yet another climate conference in Madrid.


“I think there is a big difference of him doing this now before the [conference],” said Andrew Light, a State Department negotiator under former President Barack Obama who is now at World Resources Institute. “Many countries out there are going to be taking a harder stand on the U.S. in the [conference] depending on what is said in the letter.”

Wait, didn't this already happen?
In climate diplomacy, nothing happens quickly.

While Trump announced his intention to withdraw from the Paris agreement in June 2017 and has since portrayed the decision as a done deal — “We did away with that one,” he said in Pittsburgh last month — Monday was the first day he could formally put that plan into motion. That's because the terms of the Paris agreement don't allow participants to withdraw until three years after it took effect.

However, it will be another year until the U.S. is officially out — on Nov. 4, 2020, one day after the p**********l e******n. That means the State Department would still send a delegation to the 25th Conference of Parties scheduled to convene next month, where countries are supposed to work out details of how they will fulfill their promises to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions.

Is this going to be an e******n issue?
C*****e c****e has emerged as a top issue in the Democratic primary, where the candidates have outlined competing proposals — some costing trillions of dollars — for weaning the U.S. off f****l f**ls and t***sitioning the country toward relying mostly on wind, solar and other renewable energy.

Even some moderate Republicans are calling on the GOP to acknowledge the reality of c*****e c****e, seeing the issue as key for attracting young v**ers who are increasingly worried about the havoc that scientists are projecting for the latter half of the century.

Still, the Paris deal remains unpopular among the most conservative Republicans who make up Trump's strongest base of support. House Republicans last week circulated a draft resolution, led by Rep. Jodey Arrington (R-Texas), backing a clean break Monday from the Paris agreement, and underscoring the party's objection to the climate deal.

Are we just giving up on c*****e c****e?
Once the withdrawal notice is out, the U.S. will be the only country on Earth not in the agreement, which asks participants to submit individual pledges to reduce emissions . (The goal is to limit temperature increases to 2 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels, a figure that much research has pointed to as the threshold for catastrophic warming.) But the commitments that countries have submitted so far are well short of that goal — as were the pledges that the Obama administration offered in Paris four years ago.

The president has repeatedly scoffed at the notion that c*****e c****e is even a problem, and his administration has shown a clear preference for boosting domestic oil, gas and coal production by eliminating or rewriting Obama's regulations.

However, some states like California and New York are stepping up their efforts to reduce emissions and produce more renewable energy, and businesses are facing growing consumer pressure to clean up their act. U.S. states, cities and businesses who said they remain committed to the Paris accord goals account for $10.1 trillion in GDP, making them the third-largest economy behind the entire U.S. and China, according to the World Resources Institute. Serious doubts exist that those steps will be enough without the leadership of the U.S. government, however.

What will the rest of the world do?
Trump maintains little interest in the international climate talks. He called Chilean President Sebastián Piñera last week to offer support for the leader’s decision to cancel the upcoming climate conference that had been planned for Santiago and allow them to take place elsewhere amid violent protests in the country.

But the deal itself seems likely to survive the U.S. exit, and U.S. negotiators have largely operated with little overt political influence from the White House.

The Trump administration saw last year’s climate negotiations in Katowice, Poland, as a priority because it wanted to secure strong t***sparency and reporting requirements for countries' carbon emissions, as a way to keep China in check.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/04/us-paris-climate-exit-trump-065706
The Trump administration’s move Monday to start th... (show quote)


Your entire BS post causes me to remember my mother telling her three boys, "Just because the other parents say it is OK do you think I will allow you to jump off the Brooklyn Bridge"? America is not the only nation to not sign the Paris Accord. But even if it was I would still respect President Trump for doing what is right for America. The Paris Accord will do nothing to stop g****l w*****g. America already does its best to stay on top of g****l w*****g. Trump signing or not signing means nothing except he is not falling for the BS the rest of the world does.

Perhaps some progress would be made on the g****l w*****g front if our rich politicians and Hollywood types would not fly their private jets all over the world to feel good meetings talking about g****l w*****g and its causes. That would be a step up. But you Liberals can't see that or at least admit to it can you?

Dennis

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Nov 5, 2019 12:56:23   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
JohnFrim wrote:
C’mon, Kraken, stop pulling their legs. Fess up and tell the t***h — we heat our igloos by burning whale blubber. And a good romp under the seal skins makes for a warm and restful sleep.


WOW!!! Now there are two ideas from Canadians that we are supposed to look at wonder if true. NOT!!! Apparently it is true though that BS runs freely in Canada.

Dennis

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Nov 5, 2019 12:57:11   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
LWW wrote:
A seal walked into a bar and the bartender asked “What’ll you have?”

The seal answered “Anything but a Canadian club.”


It wasn't a Harp seal was it? I love it.

Dennis

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Nov 5, 2019 13:07:44   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Perhaps some progress would be made on the g****l w*****g front if our rich politicians and Hollywood types would not fly their private jets all over the world to feel good meetings talking about g****l w*****g and its causes. That would be a step up. But you Liberals can't see that or at least admit to it can you?

Dennis

Dennis, how does Trump and his entourage get to Mara Lago almost every weekend? Small private jet or HUMONGOUS over-weight Air Force One? Remember, this is the guy who said Obama plays too much golf, and that he will be too busy being president to play golf. And how does Trump get around on his golf course -- you think he walks????

Justify just those two American initiatives of reducing carbon emissions.

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Nov 5, 2019 13:15:01   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Dennis, how does Trump and his entourage get to Mara Lago almost every weekend? Small private jet or HUMONGOUS over-weight Air Force One? Remember, this is the guy who said Obama plays too much golf, and that he will be too busy being president to play golf. And how does Trump get around on his golf course -- you think he walks????

Justify just those two American initiatives of reducing carbon emissions.


Not that a kanuck would know, but the Presidents's travels are paid for by the US government, AKA the taxpayers. Worry about YOUR blackface leader.

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Nov 5, 2019 13:15:12   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Dennis, how does Trump and his entourage get to Mara Lago almost every weekend? Small private jet or HUMONGOUS over-weight Air Force One? Remember, this is the guy who said Obama plays too much golf, and that he will be too busy being president to play golf. And how does Trump get around on his golf course -- you think he walks????

Justify just those two American initiatives of reducing carbon emissions.


Jesus John. You are one pathetic dolt. The POTUS does have the business of America to take care of and he does require protection. Do you honestly think he should fly commercial airlines on Southwest? Are you that much of a fool or are you just bringing up a comedy moment for us to share. Of course he takes Air Force One. Really, he shouldn't use a golf cart? Aren't many of them electrically propelled? You are just being ridiculous now.

Dennis

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Nov 5, 2019 13:22:29   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Jesus John. You are one pathetic dolt. The POTUS does have the business of America to take care of and he does require protection. Do you honestly think he should fly commercial airlines on Southwest? Are you that much of a fool or are you just bringing up a comedy moment for us to share. Of course he takes Air Force One. Really, he shouldn't use a golf cart? Aren't many of them electrically propelled? You are just being ridiculous now.

Dennis


Kanuckistan intelligence? The bar is very low. They just want to be relevant, so they hang here, and they aren't smart enough to figure out no one cares what a kanuck thinks. Bottom line is they have no say and no v**e, but they want to "control" everything.

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Nov 5, 2019 14:08:22   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Another great gift from the use of oil, it saved the whales and the world would be a lessor planet without them.


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Nov 5, 2019 14:09:21   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
LWW wrote:
A seal walked into a bar and the bartender asked “What’ll you have?”

The seal answered “Anything but a Canadian club.”


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