Three People and a Random Football: FYC. Blackpool Seafront, Lancashire, England.

Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK

FYC.
Blackpool Seafront, Lancashire, England.

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Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)

Amazing image!
Optical illusions and potential stories a-plenty. Mostly discovered after the fact, I’d wager!

What was your intent at exposure? To capture the contentious interaction of the two closest individuals?

Dave

Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK

Uuglypher wrote:

Amazing image!
Optical illusions and potential stories a-plenty. Mostly discovered after the fact, I’d wager!

What was your intent at exposure? To capture the contentious interaction of the two closest individuals?

Dave

Hello Dave, I wouldn't have thought of the term "contentious interaction" but it suits my intention perfectly.

As you intimated the flying football was serendipitous, just a touch of burning in of its shadow to accentuate that it is airborne.

Graham

artBob Loc: Near Chicago

Quite effective as is. Would you care to share why you didn't level and crop to make the main actors more prominent?

CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska

artBob wrote:

Quite effective as is. Would you care to share why you didn't level and crop to make the main actors more prominent?

I like the empty space around them. I think it is level. It’s full of diagonal lines that make “level” hard to determine. The women in white seems to be standing straight.
...Cam

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

Leading lines, all kinds of triangles, high interest, etc.

AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!

The intruding soccer ball is most interesting, as there's no evidence from whence it came. I think this is a nice catch and the various elements are all intriguing.

artBob Loc: Near Chicago

CamB wrote:

I like the empty space around them. I think it is level. It’s full of diagonal lines that make “level” hard to determine. The women in white seems to be standing straight.
...Cam

I understand your point of view. It is effective as shown. However, it is not level, as the line showing the centerline of weight distribution for the woman reveals in the attachment. And, I wonder about that decision of Graham's and the non-cropping decision. Hope to learn something.

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magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK

I can see we’re in for a treat whilst you’re housebound Graham - not that it will change once you’re out and about again, it’s just going to be more prolific I think? This one is a very interesting capture, and not one I would have thought to take, annoyingly. I’d have zoomed-in on the sitting figure and missed the bigger picture altogether.

Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK

artBob wrote:

I understand your point of view. It is effective as shown. However, it is not level, as the line showing the centerline of weight distribution for the woman reveals in the attachment. And, I wonder about that decision of Graham's and the non-cropping decision. Hope to learn something.

Bob,
There is no reference within the picture to indicate a true level in relation to horizontal (true horizon). A random line painted on a carpark, a woman leaning into the notoriously strong winds coming in off the Irish Sea are no indication of definitive horizontal or plumb (Note the girl's hair being blown in the opposite direction to which she is inclined). As to the crop, I wanted to leave as much of the arc as possible. And there you have my decision

Graham

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

artBob wrote:

I understand your point of view. It is effective as shown. However, it is not level...

I know sometimes we are lax about following the rule of "no editing other people's photos without permission," (I'm guilty too) but of the many talented photographers here, surely Graham is near the top of those who knows exactly what he wants and why.

Maybe in future, we can wait for his replies to any questions we have about composition, vision and intent?

(sorry, Graham, it was just too jarring seeing your image altered to keep quiet

The scene isn't one I'd look at twice, let alone find a compelling story, so it's instructive and delightful to see the world through your eyes. Great to have you back!)

artBob Loc: Near Chicago

Linda From Maine wrote:

I know sometimes we are lax about following the ru... (show quote)

I'm not sure of the reasoning behind this response, Linda.

First I WAS waiting for Graham's response, and will respond to it in a bit.

Next, I did not "edit" Graham's photo, but showed why it was not level, in response to CamB's post, because that would be important to the eventual response from Graham.

Finally, I did write, "Quite effective as is. Would you care to share why you didn't level and crop to make the main actors more prominent?"

So, I am not understanding your post.

artBob Loc: Near Chicago

Graham Smith wrote:

Bob, br There is no reference within the picture ... (show quote)

Thanks. Knowing the figure quite well, I disagree about establishing level, but as I said, "Quite effective as is."

The arc is interesting even beautiful, but it is a composition principle to not let elements lead the eye off a corner, and the arc seems less important than the figures and the ball. We're always learning from you, however, so perhaps you would share the arc's purpose in the photo. I know you do like to lead the eye off (the chain puller being most recent), and that can be effective in that particular corner because it seems the viewer's eye wants to drop, and return to the left. So, let's keep discussing.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

artBob wrote:

I'm not sure of the reasoning behind this response, Linda...

I interpreted your crop to be an edit. Perhaps you cropped to help make your point about straightening? That point would have been unnecessary also if you'd waited for Graham to respond.

Simply put, I hope we can go back to respecting the section's rule, "It is accepted forum-wide that one must not edit another person's image without explicit permission to do so. The same applies in FYC."

artBob Loc: Near Chicago

Linda From Maine wrote:

I interpreted your crop to be an edit. Perhaps you cropped to help make your point above straightening? That point would have been unnecessary also if you'd waited for Graham to respond.

Simply put, I hope we can go back to respecting the section's rule, "It is accepted forum-wide that one must not edit another person's image without explicit permission to do so. The same applies in FYC."

You did not see the red line that shows how the figure would have to stand? If you did, I do not consider tat an edit, but "fair use." [Oxford Dictionary: "copyright material may, under certain circumstances, be quoted verbatim for purposes such as criticism, news reporting, teaching, and research"]