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Sep 3, 2012 16:01:24   #
Mavenmatt Loc: Titusville Florida
 
I am trying to use my SB-800 as a remote slave flash to supply some side light for a portrait. My problem is that i don't want to induce any strait on light from my pop-up flash on my Nikon D7000. I've tried to delete the pop up flash on the camera menu with no luck. I'm assuming there is no IR data just flash data, from the camera to the slave without the popup flash. Is there a way to use just the slave and eliminate the popup flashs additional light.

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Sep 3, 2012 17:37:53   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Welcome Mavenmatt,

The CLS system works great. I even use it outside.
Supposedly you set the Pop-up flash in the commander mode to "---" so it won't affect the exposure as much. It will still flash, it has to so it can trigger the remote, but it's a low-power flash. Nikon says to use low ISO and a small aperture to minimize the effect. For me it doesn't always work as well as I want, I like using wide apertures.

I have the two Nikon accessories listed below:

Nikon makes an accessory that costs less that $15 (!!!) that will take care of the problem: the SG-3IR flash panel.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/410445-REG/Nikon_4905_SG_3IR_IR_Panel_for.html

A more expensive but versatile fix is the SU-800 commander.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/410490-USA/Nikon_4794_SU_800_Wireless_Speedlight_Commander.html

Least expensive fix is to rig a flash divertor out of foil to re-direct the light away from the subject but still let the remote see it.


Good luck!

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Sep 3, 2012 20:32:00   #
Mavenmatt Loc: Titusville Florida
 
Thanks goofynewfie!!!
Your answer is exactly what i had expected but needed to hear it from someone else. BUT the little diverter for 12 bucks is the ticket!! I'll have to jump on one next time i order something from B&H!!! In the mean time i'll try the aluminum trick???

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Sep 3, 2012 20:36:15   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Mavenmatt wrote:
Thanks goofynewfie!!!
Your answer is exactly what i had expected but needed to hear it from someone else. BUT the little diverter for 12 bucks is the ticket!! I'll have to jump on one next time i order something from B&H!!! In the mean time i'll try the aluminum trick???


The little diverter works well. It's included in the R1 Macro lighting kit sold by Nikon-- and is a useful replacement for the IR command unit

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Sep 3, 2012 21:13:09   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Mavenmatt wrote:
Thanks goofynewfie!!!
Your answer is exactly what i had expected but needed to hear it from someone else. BUT the little diverter for 12 bucks is the ticket!! I'll have to jump on one next time i order something from B&H!!! In the mean time i'll try the aluminum trick???


Hope you can afford the Nikon IR panel! I've never done the foil trick it myself, but have heard of others who have.
Good luck!

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Sep 3, 2012 21:30:03   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:


The little diverter works well. It's included in the R1 Macro lighting kit sold by Nikon-- and is a useful replacement for the IR command unit


Masked Man- Do you have trouble getting the Nikon flash panel out of the shoe?
It's almost like the spring is to strong.

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Sep 3, 2012 21:32:14   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Mavenmatt wrote:
I am trying to use my SB-800 as a remote slave flash to supply some side light for a portrait. My problem is that i don't want to induce any strait on light from my pop-up flash on my Nikon D7000. I've tried to delete the pop up flash on the camera menu with no luck. I'm assuming there is no IR data just flash data, from the camera to the slave without the popup flash. Is there a way to use just the slave and eliminate the popup flashs additional light.


Yes. Nikon sells a thingee for about $15 you put in front of the pop-up flash. It allows enough light to trigger the remote but not enough to affect exposure.

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Sep 3, 2012 22:48:17   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
LoneRangeFinder wrote:


The little diverter works well. It's included in the R1 Macro lighting kit sold by Nikon-- and is a useful replacement for the IR command unit


Masked Man- Do you have trouble getting the Nikon flash panel out of the shoe?
It's almost like the spring is to strong.


I did initially-- but as I've used it... not so much. I guess this means it could become too loose....

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Sep 3, 2012 23:52:00   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:


Masked Man- Do you have trouble getting the Nikon flash panel out of the shoe?
It's almost like the spring is too strong.


I did initially-- but as I've used it... not so much. I guess this means it could become too loose....[/quote]
Thanks

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Sep 4, 2012 06:43:00   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Amazon has a couple of diffrent ones, and one for 10 bucks: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_21?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=nikon+sg-3ir+ir+panel+for+camera+built-in+flashes&sprefix=Nikon+SG-3IR+IR+Panel%2Caps%2C198

Mavenmatt wrote:
Thanks goofynewfie!!!
Your answer is exactly what i had expected but needed to hear it from someone else. BUT the little diverter for 12 bucks is the ticket!! I'll have to jump on one next time i order something from B&H!!! In the mean time i'll try the aluminum trick???

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Sep 4, 2012 07:38:06   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Haven't looked at this for a while but my memory tells me that what Nikon provides with the pop-up flash is a Commander mode. In this mode, the pop-up does NOT flash - it does send a pre-flash to get a reading to make whatever adjustments back in the instant before the actual flash is made.

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Sep 4, 2012 08:47:43   #
jimmix7 Loc: England
 
I have used this method with the pre flash about a foot away from my dogs eyes, , and the flash off the camera only just could be seen in his eyes,I don't really think it throws much light onto the main subject at all, If I was concerned I would most certanly just make a baffle from tinfoil to bounce the pre-flash,, I would not buy such a product. Jimmy..

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Sep 4, 2012 09:03:10   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
BboH wrote:
Haven't looked at this for a while but my memory tells me that what Nikon provides with the pop-up flash is a Commander mode. In this mode, the pop-up does NOT flash - it does send a pre-flash to get a reading to make whatever adjustments back in the instant before the actual flash is made.

I have a D7000 sitting in front of me.
It does flash in commander mode.
It shows up in photos occasionally, depending on the circumstances. Best just to get the panel.
How often can you get a Nikon accessory for less than $15?

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Sep 4, 2012 12:17:23   #
piedmonte66 Loc: Michigan
 
Mavenmatt wrote:
I am trying to use my SB-800 as a remote slave flash to supply some side light for a portrait. My problem is that i don't want to induce any strait on light from my pop-up flash on my Nikon D7000. I've tried to delete the pop up flash on the camera menu with no luck. I'm assuming there is no IR data just flash data, from the camera to the slave without the popup flash. Is there a way to use just the slave and eliminate the popup flashs additional light.


I have the same issue, thanks for asking the question!

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Sep 4, 2012 12:27:56   #
Steinmetz Loc: Oregon based
 
Set the SB800 and camera to nikons command mode... on camera flash will not fire... otherwise use the "deflector- diffuser on the on camera flash" ...

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