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Nov 12, 2019 11:35:49   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
bull drink water wrote:
MORE WORMS.
if a meteor wiped out all the dinosaurs, how did the mamals survive?if they were small enough to survive the meteor, how did they "evolve" into the veraiety we have today in only 4 or 5 thousand years? maybe all the animale died off from the meteor and there was a second creation of animals without the dinosaurs.

for you believers, if God let noah put the dinosaurs in the ark, where are they now? are you tellingme God let them come through the flood them just let them die out?
MORE WORMS. br if a meteor wiped out all the dino... (show quote)


Dinosaurs evolved into birds. Dodos died out. And our time sense is often waay off.
Some scientists looking at the pyramids noticed they mirrored the Osiris Constellation. And that the one shaft looking up, looks right to to that same constellation- but from thousands of years previously.
And don't forget the conundrum of the Sumerians.
Or how and why the Babylonians counted in base 12. And did their higher math work in base 60.

Back in the day, when we lived in the Real World and were effected by the years and seasons, they counted your age in "moons", sometimes aligned with named years or periods.If you were a Spring born child, you were gestating during the Fall and Winter, and were a toddler by Winter; a Fall born child gestated during the Spring and Summer, and became a toddler by Summer. Completely different food and nutrition, and activities, of the mother and child during these times. So there were different qualities to the child depending on when it was born. They all knew this, then. Mistranslations and wishful thinks ...
Methuselah wasn't that many years old, he was that many moons old. Believers gotta believe ...

The KJ version of the bible was a collaborative construct by the pope and king to help guide the populace to Right Think. Do as you're told. Both king and pope were decided by the hand of God- disobeying either was not only treason, but a sin. Do as you're told. No matter, you'll go to heaven if you do it right. Do as you're told. In fact, the worse it is here the better it will be for you there. Do as you're told.

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Nov 12, 2019 13:34:34   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Harry0 wrote:
*sigh*
Mary's MOTHER was the virgin, to be "pure" enough to birth Mary.
Mary had been already married, with children. before Jesus and Joseph.
The "modern" bible, and cult, is the result of centuries of bowdlerized translations, and sycophants playing "telephone" with each other. Look up the "Jefferson" and "Genesis" bibles, just a few hundred years ago.


That's why the Nestle Greek Text is based upon the earliest and best parchments and papyri. Textual Criticism has been able to establish a trustworthy and reliable text upon which to base any translation.

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Nov 13, 2019 15:53:54   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
rpavich wrote:
You and I both know that you really didn't wonder about these things, you just post this stuff because you hate God and this is a way you express it.

Been there, done that.

Thankfully God changed my heart so that I now love Him and His word instead of thumbing my nose at Him. I pray that He does the same for you before it's too late.


Amen!

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Nov 13, 2019 16:10:31   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
Read Hebrews Chapter 11. It tells us about faith. I choose the way of the Bible.

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Nov 13, 2019 17:21:56   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Hal81 wrote:
Read Hebrews Chapter 11. It tells us about faith. I choose the way of the Bible.



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Nov 14, 2019 00:57:36   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
bull drink water wrote:
questions I did or wanted to ask during catechism as a fifth grader.

1 did God create Adam in the image of modern man, or in a more prehistoric image?
2 how long did Adam walk the earth with God before he was given Eve?
3 how long did Adam and Eve live together before God put them in the garden of eden?
4 how many children did they have before and while they were in the garden of eden?
5 were they born with a created with a complex language, or did it take many years to develop?
6 how long were they in the garden before they were kicked out?
7 if with two perfect beings things got bad enough to warrant the flood, what made Him think He would do better with 6 people born under sin?

now for us raised as catholics.
1 how did the church decide she was a perpetual virgin when the angel told Josehp he could have sex with Mary after Jesus was born?
i'm sure i'm not the only one with these types of questions.
questions I did or wanted to ask during catechism... (show quote)


I asked questions like that as a kid. Got in hot water for it.
Too many 'hows' in the explanation. Then the higher power explanation.
The hey, Rockie, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat trick is a better name for "the creation".
Bill

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Nov 14, 2019 01:25:24   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
rwoodvira wrote:
Here we go again - this truly belongs in The Attic, where everyone has an opinion that they are totally right and others are totally wrong and intolerance unfortunately by some seems to be practiced daily. You will find evil liberal dems, staunch conservatives, religious zealots and confirmed atheists. I haven't found any Satanists yet, but they may be hiding there. As to religion, it's unfortunate that more people in human history have been killed because of it than just about anything. If you do believe in a Creator, my guess is that he (or she) must shake their holy head at the foolishness of it all.

Old joke - St. Peter was taking a bunch of the newly deceased on a tour of heaven - when he came to one area he asked everyone to be silent while they went through it because that sect didn't believe anyone else was there.

If you happen to be a Christian as I am, take a look at John 3:16. Not a lot of qualifiers there. Live long & prosper!
Here we go again - this truly belongs in The Attic... (show quote)


More or less, "God so loved the world that he gave his only son, so that those who believe in him shall have everlasting life. I am not sure how you can say whether or not they are saved. Isn't that's god's choice? How are you presuming to speak for God? You speak for Spock.
I do not think quoting scripture is a proof of your belief in god.
I can quote scripture, and few people accuse me of being christian.
My point is, where the hell do you, or he, or she, get the nerve to tell me I am wrong.
The rest of my thoughts on this subject would get me barred from this site.
newtoyou
PS
And today's Christians' can't even agree on a bible.
Makes as much sense as the war between the Big enders and the Little enders.

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