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Sep 3, 2012 07:01:24   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
Recently I was shooting stereo in infrared mix (one camera (Fuji S5 set on visible light below 700 nm and the other (Fuji ISP) set on Infrared above 850 nm. Well anyway, while was setting up my shot there was a young couple sitting on a park bench well within my frame. They moved away before I made the exposures, both cameras were off, very important. After making the exposure there was a "Ghost Image" of the young couple in the frame moving from the bench going in the same direction as the young couple. What did I capture? The ghost only appeared in the Infrared frame (ISP) and not in the Normal (S5) frame. I tried to repeat the this but the light was falling off quickly and there wasn't anyone around to be a subject. Note: nothing in the area, neither man or beast, no birds butterflies not anything. Did I discover something or are there really
"Ghost" out there? Think about the implications and applications.
artcameraman

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Sep 3, 2012 08:03:30   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
Maybe post the shot and lets have a look at it.

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Sep 3, 2012 08:26:20   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
Thanks, That is something I'll consider. I'm going to take my equipment to the Forensic Lab to see if I can repeat it. A colleague (Physics) at Colby-Sawyer College in New London, NH is very interested said that it could have been the electromagnetic field.
BTW, no fog or anything else that would cause air currents to swirl around.
artcameraman

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Sep 4, 2012 06:43:46   #
Ugly Jake Loc: Sub-Rural Vermont
 
Artcameraman wrote:
Thanks, That is something I'll consider. I'm going to take my equipment to the Forensic Lab to see if I can repeat it. A colleague (Physics) at Colby-Sawyer College in New London, NH is very interested said that it could have been the electromagnetic field.
BTW, no fog or anything else that would cause air currents to swirl around.
artcameraman


Was it an image, or a heat outline? The other thing you could have checked is the exact time of the capture - difficult to prove after the fact - how sure are you they were off?

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Sep 4, 2012 07:43:04   #
Bobwurman
 
Probably Just temperature difference in the air caused by the bodies.

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Sep 4, 2012 08:50:04   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
With IR, it was most likely the "heat signature" of their bodies that hadn't dissapated yet after they walked away. Had to be the IR to show it up since it is not visible to the naked eye!

Should be repeatable if you have a cool morning or cold day, then have someone sit or stand in a certain spot for several minutes before moving away. Would have to stay there long enough for the heat signature to build up first.

Oh yeah, you said it was a 'young couple' on the bench? Ya wanna talk about a 'HEAT' build-up!!!

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Sep 4, 2012 11:11:02   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
Artcameraman wrote:
Thanks, That is something I'll consider. I'm going to take my equipment to the Forensic Lab to see if I can repeat it. A colleague (Physics) at Colby-Sawyer College in New London, NH is very interested said that it could have been the electromagnetic field.
BTW, no fog or anything else that would cause air currents to swirl around.
artcameraman


You mentioned infrared, could it have been a reminant of their heat signature as you say no wind was blowing.

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Sep 5, 2012 02:21:36   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
Artcameraman wrote:
Recently I was shooting stereo in infrared mix (one camera (Fuji S5 set on visible light below 700 nm and the other (Fuji ISP) set on Infrared above 850 nm. Well anyway, while was setting up my shot there was a young couple sitting on a park bench well within my frame. They moved away before I made the exposures, both cameras were off, very important. After making the exposure there was a "Ghost Image" of the young couple in the frame moving from the bench going in the same direction as the young couple. What did I capture? The ghost only appeared in the Infrared frame (ISP) and not in the Normal (S5) frame. I tried to repeat the this but the light was falling off quickly and there wasn't anyone around to be a subject. Note: nothing in the area, neither man or beast, no birds butterflies not anything. Did I discover something or are there really
"Ghost" out there? Think about the implications and applications.
artcameraman
Recently I was shooting stereo in infrared mix (on... (show quote)




Main article: Infrared radiation

The infrared part of the electromagnetic spectrum covers the range from roughly 300 GHz (1 mm) to 400 THz (750 nm). It can be divided into three parts:[2]
Far-infrared, from 300 GHz (1 mm) to 30 THz (10 μm). The lower part of this range may also be called microwaves. This radiation is typically absorbed by so-called rotational modes in gas-phase molecules, by molecular motions in liquids, and by phonons in solids. The water in Earth's atmosphere absorbs so strongly in this range that it renders the atmosphere in effect opaque. However, there are certain wavelength ranges ("windows") within the opaque range that allow partial transmission, and can be used for astronomy. The wavelength range from approximately 200 μm up to a few mm is often referred to as "sub-millimeter" in astronomy, reserving far infrared for wavelengths below 200 μm.
Mid-infrared, from 30 to 120 THz (10 to 2.5 μm). Hot objects (black-body radiators) can radiate strongly in this range. It is absorbed by molecular vibrations, where the different atoms in a molecule vibrate around their equilibrium positions. This range is sometimes called the fingerprint region, since the mid-infrared absorption spectrum of a compound is very specific for that compound.
Near-infrared, from 120 to 400 THz (2,500 to 750 nm). Physical processes that are relevant for this range are similar to those for visible light.
It sounds like your camera was recording light in the NEAR-INFRARED range and your "GHOSTS" are actually heat signatures left in the surrounding air by the 2 subjects. I also suspect that there was a dead calm othis signature would be dissipated quickly. Humidity may also have an effect on this region of the light spectrum.

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Sep 5, 2012 12:59:06   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
Still like the thought of ghost being real.

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Sep 5, 2012 19:06:33   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
singleviking wrote:
Artcameraman wrote:
Recently I was shooting stereo in infrared mix (one camera (Fuji S5 set on visible light below 700 nm and the other (Fuji ISP) set on Infrared above 850 nm. Well anyway, while was setting up my shot there was a young couple sitting on a park bench well within my frame. They moved away before I made the exposures, both cameras were off, very important. After making the exposure there was a "Ghost Image" of the young couple in the frame moving from the bench going in the same direction as the young couple. What did I capture? The ghost only appeared in the Infrared frame (ISP) and not in the Normal (S5) frame. I tried to repeat the this but the light was falling off quickly and there wasn't anyone around to be a subject. Note: nothing in the area, neither man or beast, no birds butterflies not anything. Did I discover something or are there really
"Ghost" out there? Think about the implications and applications.
artcameraman
Recently I was shooting stereo in infrared mix (on... (show quote)




Main article: Infrared radiation

The infrared part of the electromagnetic spectrum covers the range from roughly 300 GHz (1 mm) to 400 THz (750 nm). It can be divided into three parts:[2]
Far-infrared, from 300 GHz (1 mm) to 30 THz (10 μm). The lower part of this range may also be called microwaves. This radiation is typically absorbed by so-called rotational modes in gas-phase molecules, by molecular motions in liquids, and by phonons in solids. The water in Earth's atmosphere absorbs so strongly in this range that it renders the atmosphere in effect opaque. However, there are certain wavelength ranges ("windows") within the opaque range that allow partial transmission, and can be used for astronomy. The wavelength range from approximately 200 μm up to a few mm is often referred to as "sub-millimeter" in astronomy, reserving far infrared for wavelengths below 200 μm.
Mid-infrared, from 30 to 120 THz (10 to 2.5 μm). Hot objects (black-body radiators) can radiate strongly in this range. It is absorbed by molecular vibrations, where the different atoms in a molecule vibrate around their equilibrium positions. This range is sometimes called the fingerprint region, since the mid-infrared absorption spectrum of a compound is very specific for that compound.
Near-infrared, from 120 to 400 THz (2,500 to 750 nm). Physical processes that are relevant for this range are similar to those for visible light.
It sounds like your camera was recording light in the NEAR-INFRARED range and your "GHOSTS" are actually heat signatures left in the surrounding air by the 2 subjects. I also suspect that there was a dead calm othis signature would be dissipated quickly. Humidity may also have an effect on this region of the light spectrum.
quote=Artcameraman Recently I was shooting stereo... (show quote)


After reading all these replies I recalled I have a shot of an old house out in the swamp and you can see a woman going up on the porch, only she wasn't there when the picture was shot.

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Sep 5, 2012 19:53:43   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Artcameraman wrote:
Recently I was shooting stereo in infrared mix (one camera (Fuji S5 set on visible light below 700 nm and the other (Fuji ISP) set on Infrared above 850 nm. Well anyway, while was setting up my shot there was a young couple sitting on a park bench well within my frame. They moved away before I made the exposures, both cameras were off, very important. After making the exposure there was a "Ghost Image" of the young couple in the frame moving from the bench going in the same direction as the young couple. What did I capture? The ghost only appeared in the Infrared frame (ISP) and not in the Normal (S5) frame. I tried to repeat the this but the light was falling off quickly and there wasn't anyone around to be a subject. Note: nothing in the area, neither man or beast, no birds butterflies not anything. Did I discover something or are there really
"Ghost" out there? Think about the implications and applications.
artcameraman
Recently I was shooting stereo in infrared mix (on... (show quote)


Someone asked for pictures of UFOs a few days ago. Maybe you could contact him and get something started, "Photography from Beyond Reality." :thumbup:

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Sep 5, 2012 20:39:07   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
Yup.....without a photo.....it really is...beyond.

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Sep 5, 2012 20:46:32   #
saycheese Loc: By the Big Lake in West Michigan
 
Artcameraman wrote:
Recently I was shooting stereo in infrared mix (one camera (Fuji S5 set on visible light below 700 nm and the other (Fuji ISP) set on Infrared above 850 nm. Well anyway, while was setting up my shot there was a young couple sitting on a park bench well within my frame. They moved away before I made the exposures, both cameras were off, very important. After making the exposure there was a "Ghost Image" of the young couple in the frame moving from the bench going in the same direction as the young couple. What did I capture? The ghost only appeared in the Infrared frame (ISP) and not in the Normal (S5) frame. I tried to repeat the this but the light was falling off quickly and there wasn't anyone around to be a subject. Note: nothing in the area, neither man or beast, no birds butterflies not anything. Did I discover lsomething or are there really
"Ghost" out there? Think about the implications and applications.
artcameraman
Recently I was shooting stereo in infrared mix (on... (show quote)


May we see the photo?

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Sep 6, 2012 06:25:08   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
Yes.

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Sep 6, 2012 06:27:24   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
I'll be getting a, how do I do a copyright on an iPad?. Copyrite.

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