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Sep 3, 2012 06:38:41   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
Anyone using Adobe Cloud? Looks like a deal going from CS5 to Cloud.
Cost $30. A month US.
Artcameraman

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Sep 4, 2012 07:55:38   #
portcragin Loc: Kirkland, WA
 
I can't figure out why people are using "The Cloud" for storage when you can buy hard drives with huge capacity for such little money. Seems too expensive for what you get.

Good shooting

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Sep 4, 2012 08:34:38   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
portcragin wrote:
I can't figure out why people are using "The Cloud" for storage when you can buy hard drives with huge capacity for such little money. Seems too expensive for what you get.

Good shooting

I don't use the cloud but the advantage of it is that you have access to your stuff basically from anywhere in the world that has a computer and Internet access.

I have eight external hard drives totalling six terabytes. If I went to Tokyo, I could load those eight hard drives in my luggage and take them with me but I'd probably pay an extra luggage fee, and who knows if they would survive the trip? By putting all that stuff in the cloud, no worries, and instant access when I got to Tokyo without having to set up anything.

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Sep 4, 2012 08:51:04   #
tinosa Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
 
In addition to storage, the Creative Cloud enables you to download and install any of the new Adobe Creative Suite 6* apps you want, plus Lightroom 4, Adobe Acrobat®, and the Adobe Touch Apps†, for creativity on the go.

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Sep 4, 2012 10:07:06   #
Scoutman Loc: Orlando, FL
 
portcragin wrote:
I can't figure out why people are using "The Cloud" for storage when you can buy hard drives with huge capacity for such little money. Seems too expensive for what you get.

Good shooting


What if a major disaster wipes out your abode including a safe. But $ will buy you a safe that will stand up to virtually anything short of a nuclear explosion.

Even so, isn't it a good idea to have off-site storage for your valuable data? I think so. Maybe hard drives in a safe deposit box as well as cloud-like storage. Most universities, and many businesses too I suspect, have off-site storage for their data. Probably wouldn't use a cloud-like system though.

In the end, it depends on how much you value your stuff.

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Sep 4, 2012 10:14:49   #
coastlawyer Loc: Coastal Mississippi
 
Artcameraman wrote:
Anyone using Adobe Cloud? Looks like a deal going from CS5 to Cloud.
Cost $30. A month US.
Artcameraman


I compare Adobe Cloud to leasing or owning an automobile.

I have CS 5 and own it. I have not upgraded to CS 6.

If I leased from Adobe Cloud, I would be using CS 6, and CS 7 in the future. But I would not own either. Skip a payment and the cloud's lifeline is severed.

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Sep 4, 2012 10:50:36   #
Steinmetz Loc: Oregon based
 
I agree with coastlawyer.. The cloud, regardless whether Adobes or Apples or others, is very BIG business ( money out of your pocket; and, like coast lawyer said, skip a payment and your "umbilical cord" to the cloud may be severed or compromised. I like to own, not lease or rent. The marketing of todays companies is very clever to get you to open your wallet(s). Apples iCloud was over a 10 year beta project ( its embryonic stage was mobile me gallery, which used iweb and iphoto ) that is now in place. Caveat the marketing of today. Some clouds are photographer friendly and others are... ? read the fine print, even on facebook when you post pictures -- do you have the rights required to post the pictures you do post. The hook with iCloud of Adobe is that you get to use their software suites...etc... Take the consequences of which ever one decision may be in regarding to use the clouds or which clouds to use, if any.

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Sep 4, 2012 12:34:47   #
saichiez Loc: Beautiful Central Oregon
 
IS EVERYBODY... reading the part of the contractual agreement regarding these "CLOUD" system rights to your photographs.

IS EVERYBODY... looking at the financials of all these "CLOUD" systems as far as their financial stability on the internet.

HAS ANYBODY... heard the stories about these "CLOUD" (new term for data storage online) systems shutting down, with no recovery for the members. One was even marketing to Professional Photographers.

Perhaps CoastLawyer will offer some insight on ownership of images with these outfits. Does Adobe acquire any rights to your images if you sign up?

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Sep 4, 2012 13:18:47   #
DRC56 Loc: Sartell, MN
 
I have a WD 2TB My Book Live personal cloud drive and can access it from any computer in the house, phone, and tablet. I can also access it from anywhere that has internet connection.

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Sep 4, 2012 15:22:41   #
Experiment_626
 
saichiez wrote:
IS EVERYBODY... reading the part of the contractual agreement regarding these "CLOUD" system rights to your photographs.

IS EVERYBODY... looking at the financials of all these "CLOUD" systems as far as their financial stability on the internet.

HAS ANYBODY... heard the stories about these "CLOUD" (new term for data storage online) systems shutting down, with no recovery for the members. One was even marketing to Professional Photographers.

Perhaps CoastLawyer will offer some insight on ownership of images with these outfits. Does Adobe acquire any rights to your images if you sign up?
IS EVERYBODY... reading the part of the contractua... (show quote)
I seriously doubt that Adobe would use this to pick up back-door rights to your images. I couldn't find any reference online answering the question. But I strongly suspect that most who use the Adobe Creative Cloud aren't using for it for cloud-based storage and may not use that feature at all. It only offers 20GB of space for that, which isn't much for the kind of work Creative Suite users would typically produce. I believe that is mainly there to facilitate cloud-based collaboration and other such activities.

The main reason to get the Creative Cloud is the access to everything in the high-end Creative Suite packages, plus other applications even those users don't get included as part of the suite, such as Lightroom. They'll also get updates to the software going forward that "regular" users won't get until time for a major upgrade (this isn't just a money grab by Adobe -- apparently there are legal issues with retail conventionally-distributed software that actually preclude some of these updates from being issued unless you're a Creative Cloud subscriber).

Many in the industry suspect that most software will eventually be distributed this way, and that what we think of as the "regular" distribution methods will one day all but vanish. I have no idea whether that's true.

I'm planning to get Creative Cloud in the next several days and give it a shot for a year at work -- I'm not paying for it myself. If it doesn't work out for some reason, I'll get the conventional version again in 12 months.

SSB

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Sep 4, 2012 17:51:43   #
coastlawyer Loc: Coastal Mississippi
 
saichiez wrote:
IS EVERYBODY... reading the part of the contractual agreement regarding these "CLOUD" system rights to your photographs.

IS EVERYBODY... looking at the financials of all these "CLOUD" systems as far as their financial stability on the internet.

HAS ANYBODY... heard the stories about these "CLOUD" (new term for data storage online) systems shutting down, with no recovery for the members. One was even marketing to Professional Photographers.

Perhaps CoastLawyer will offer some insight on ownership of images with these outfits. Does Adobe acquire any rights to your images if you sign up?
IS EVERYBODY... reading the part of the contractua... (show quote)


No rights to images in cloud storage is contained in the following from Adobe.

"http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/faq.html"

You can give others access to your storage. (you can give access to a trusted friend who can "fix" the image for you). Much as we do in UHH.

Whatever programs you "rent" are installed on your computer. You are required to pay via credit card monthly. You commit for a year. If you cancel early you lose access to the programs, and owe 50% of the remainder of payments.

I do not believe cloud storage is the thrust of their program. They intend to gain revenue from rental of the programs.

For entities that provide cloud storage as the sole intent, I believe no ownership is passed to the facility. In fact, I believe any access should and would be prohibited. Much the same as our local storage of a Uhaul type of business storage where you store and lock.

I am giving a general overview, and I suggest you obtain local council for specific concerns. Richard Miller, Attorney in Mississippi.

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Sep 5, 2012 06:57:59   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
You get ALL adobe programs as soon as they come out. You have to have the current CS package.

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Sep 6, 2013 14:22:22   #
Hopesfate Loc: NC
 
Just announced on the Pro site.
prodesigntools.com/index.php

" Since introducing Photoshop CC we’ve listened to feedback from a spectrum of our customers, from advanced pros to casual enthusiasts. One common request was a solution specifically tailored for photographers. We listened and are announcing a special offer for our loyal Photoshop customers. Beginning today, customers who own Photoshop CS3 or higher are eligible for a special Creative Cloud membership offer that includes all of the following for just $9.99/month (pricing varies outside the US):

Photoshop CC with Bridge CC and Adobe Camera Raw (ACR)
Lightroom 5
20 GB of online storage
Behance ProSite for building a beautiful online portfolio site
Access to the exclusive online video tutorials in Learn Creative Cloud
Continuing upgrades and updates for all included applications

This is the ongoing price for anyone who signs up by December 31, 2013. So if you sign up in October 2013, then when you renew in October 2014, the price will still be $9.99 per month. We do not currently have any intention of raising this price.

While I thought that 49.99 was outrageous, 9.99 with never the cost going up sounds within reason. I don't care to use the Cloud for storage but I would say that to have access to these tools for that price does sound reasonable in comparison to previous.

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Sep 8, 2013 19:10:48   #
gemlenz Loc: Gilbert Arizona
 
You must have purchased your CS* software from Adobe to qualify. If you bought it on Ebay it does not qualify. To get Photoshop CC, LR + tools now you pay $49.99/mo.

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