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Oct 23, 2019 11:23:59   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Oldnintheway wrote:
Something to consider. I bought the Tamron 150-600 a few years ago second hand. It is a great lens but it does gather internal dust. So far it's not affecting my IQ as far as I can tell but it bothers me. So I called Tamron and they quoted me $250. for a cleaning, which would have been covered for free under warranty if I was the original owner. That's just about what I saved buying it second hand. If I had it to do again I'd buy new and have the warranty to fall back on.


Some folks have reported pretty good results mounting the vacuum cleaner suction hose to the mount end of the big lenses and using suction combined with light vibration/tapping to shake lose and suck out dust. I imagine the results vary a lot by lens design ) and whethter or not big end is sealed, or element removed for cleaning, etc.). Unless it is really dusty (or other) you will never see it in a photo, but if enough on an element or two, it could start to cut light (in minute amounts) as things progress.

Generally you can get to several of the internal elements from the big end, and sometimes one or two from mount end without a major disassembly project. A good memory, or removed parts placement strategy (and pics) will help you if you don't have any, or very little experience with internal lens cleaning, if you are a good technician, not so difficult, if ham fisted I'd recommend going to a pro. There can be lots of tiny surprises inside!!!

I do clean my own lenses and ones that I buy used, but there are considerations, especially with focus stack on modern lenses - some, if disturbed, will no longer focus unless computer/laser alignment equipment is employed (no mechanical adjustment capability) so care must be taken, and always research the lens you intend to clean so you know what extra issues you could induce. The older pure mechanical lenses are generally a pleasure to work on, the modern stuff can be anywhere from reasonable to very difficult (circuit boards, ribbon cables, connectors, various motor types, etc. etc.), and getting info (like factory repair manuals) can be anywhere from easy to hard, cheap to expensive.

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Oct 23, 2019 11:50:10   #
davesit Loc: Media, PA
 
Oldnintheway wrote:
Something to consider. I bought the Tamron 150-600 a few years ago second hand. It is a great lens but it does gather internal dust. So far it's not affecting my IQ as far as I can tell but it bothers me. So I called Tamron and they quoted me $250. for a cleaning, which would have been covered for free under warranty if I was the original owner. That's just about what I saved buying it second hand. If I had it to do again I'd buy new and have the warranty to fall back on.


I assumed you are talking about the G1, which is notorious of sucking in dirt when zooming, and then with almost all the dirt wound up on the back surface of the first group of elements. It's actually not terribly hard to clean it yourself. There are 3 Torx (T2 size I believe) that once removed opened up the front group to be removed. Just be careful in preserving and marking the small metal shims that accompany the second set of screws. Checkout YouTube.

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Oct 23, 2019 11:54:11   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
mikeroetex wrote:
Not to add fuel to the fire, but I believe you're both incorrect. It's (300 x 1.4) x 1.5= 610 at the cost of one f=stop, so f5.6. The field of view changes by the multipliers, and that tele-converter should only lose one fstop.


630

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Oct 23, 2019 12:14:32   #
Overthehill1
 
First, I'd like to thank all the hoggers who replied to my question. Lots of good information here and tips to guide my eventual decision. Second, I should apologize for not specifying a budget. It would be in the $300-500 range, which would eliminate many of the longer and most up-to-date options. I am encouraged by those not as mathematically challenged as I am that a 300mm lens with 1.4x converter and crop sensor will give me about 600mm to work with. Thanks again to all.

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Oct 23, 2019 12:42:42   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
You mentioned ... If my math is correct, that will give me the equivalent of 570mm at F 5.6 (from 300 f/4).

No, It will be 459mm at f/6.12 ... on your Nikon D7000.


No - 300 on a DX body has a FOV as a 450 on an FX (300 X 1.5). Then X 1.4 for the TC -> 630.

Anyone?

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Oct 23, 2019 12:53:05   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
Overthehill1 wrote:
With the season for hummingbirds and butterflies around here over and flowers and fall colors fading I'll soon be looking for new subjects. I have been amazed at the many outstanding bird photos posted on this forum and would like to try my hand at it. I'm using a Nikon D7000 and my 80-200 F 2.8 with a 1.4X converter. That will probably handle most of the shots at the feeders we'll put up soon, but a few trips into the woods have me thinking I need more reach there. Budgetary reasons have me considering a 300mm F4 Nikkor. If my math is correct, that will give me the equivalent of 570mm at F 5.6. Or would I be better off with a manual focus older lens, like a 400mm. Thoughts?
With the season for hummingbirds and butterflies a... (show quote)

I have an older sigma 150-500mm on a D7200. I paid 168.00 for it and sent it to sigma and told them I was using a D7200. When I got it back a week later it was and is tack sharp and I'm Anal. Cost me 120.00 with shipping included. The replaced a pcb board and tuned it up. For 300.00 it's awesome

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Oct 23, 2019 13:19:10   #
Canisdirus
 
mikeroetex wrote:
Not to add fuel to the fire, but I believe you're both incorrect. It's (300 x 1.4) x 1.5= 610 at the cost of one f=stop, so f5.6. The field of view changes by the multipliers, and that tele-converter should only lose one fstop.


I was not adding in the teleconverter. Aperture is now even smaller.
It's at f/6.1 without tele.

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Oct 23, 2019 13:23:29   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
fetzler wrote:
Indeed I would look to these lenses. I would add the Nikon 200-500mm to my list as well. The Sigma/ Tamron 100-400mm lenses are light enough.


I will never understand the logic behind suggesting that a "good deal" on a lens that isn't even close to what the OP has. He's got a very sharp lens - that 80-200 was one of the sharpest in that range made by Nikon. The $75 consumer targeted 70-300mm lenses can't hold a candle to that lens, even if he uses it with the 1.4 TC.

The reason I refrained from suggesting the 100-400s from Tamron and Sigma is that they are a bit slow, and do need to be stopped down to get them to be really crisp. Again, the goal I think is to get at least as good image quality as what he now has and I don't think these lenses can do that. The 200-500 is a good choice though. I did find the Tamron G2 and the Sigma Sport sharper,

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Oct 23, 2019 13:26:24   #
Leo_B Loc: Houston suburb
 
What about going to a 2.0TC with the current lens? And I don't shoot any of this or know about it, just asking out of earnest curiosity and hope of being helpful.

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Oct 23, 2019 13:33:36   #
JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell
 
Overthehill1 wrote:
With the season for hummingbirds and butterflies around here over and flowers and fall colors fading I'll soon be looking for new subjects. I have been amazed at the many outstanding bird photos posted on this forum and would like to try my hand at it. I'm using a Nikon D7000 and my 80-200 F 2.8 with a 1.4X converter. That will probably handle most of the shots at the feeders we'll put up soon, but a few trips into the woods have me thinking I need more reach there. Budgetary reasons have me considering a 300mm F4 Nikkor. If my math is correct, that will give me the equivalent of 570mm at F 5.6. Or would I be better off with a manual focus older lens, like a 400mm. Thoughts?
With the season for hummingbirds and butterflies a... (show quote)


Your Math is incorrect. A 300mm on DX format D7000 is equivalent to 450mm on a FX format camera. IMO a 500mm lens is the way to go as it gives you the equivalent field of view of a 750mm 35mm format camera

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Oct 23, 2019 13:54:51   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
I don't think you can do better than the Nikon 200-500mm.

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Oct 23, 2019 14:09:03   #
sergiohm
 
Overthehill1 wrote:
First, I'd like to thank all the hoggers who replied to my question. Lots of good information here and tips to guide my eventual decision. Second, I should apologize for not specifying a budget. It would be in the $300-500 range, which would eliminate many of the longer and most up-to-date options. I am encouraged by those not as mathematically challenged as I am that a 300mm lens with 1.4x converter and crop sensor will give me about 600mm to work with. Thanks again to all.

Hate to bring bad news but $500 will not get you very far, used try
1. Tamron 150-600mm g1
2. Nikon 80–400 mm v1

https://www.keh.com/shop/nikon-nikkor-80-400mm-f-4-5-5-6d-ed-vr-af-telephoto-zoom-lens.html?prod_id=329898&aid=329898&rmatt=tsid:%7Ccid:329600331%7Cagid:1308418981015500%7Ctid:pla-4585375806652313%7Ccrid:%7Bcreative%7D%7Cnw:o%7Crnd:%7Brandom%7D%7Cdvc:m%7Cadp:%7Badposition%7D&msclkid=9a1b3476817119a92cf369c617e60ca9&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PLA%20-%20Lenses%20%5BGeneric%5D&utm_term=4585375806652313&utm_content=SLR%20Lenses

Good luck

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Oct 23, 2019 14:51:26   #
adamsg Loc: Chubbuck, ID
 
I strongly recommend you look at the Nikon USA site for their refurb iced lenses. I bought my daughter and son-in-law a Nikon 70-300 mm zoom for $149.50 form the site It is an AF lens and was in beautiful shape. a 300 mm will effectively be the equivalent of a larger telephoto if you work in the 1.5 crop ode on your camera. I have a D7100 and that gives me good pictures with which to work. I personally, use a 55-300 Nikon lens and find that the 1.5 setting works very well. The site does have larger tiles from time to time.

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Oct 23, 2019 15:55:29   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
cambriaman wrote:
I don't think you can do better than the Nikon 200-500mm.



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Oct 23, 2019 15:59:23   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Seems lots of people neglected to note that the OP said this ," Second, I should apologize for not specifying a budget. It would be in the $300-500 range, which would eliminate many of the longer and most up-to-date options.", several posts back....

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