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Oct 23, 2019 22:14:55   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
Ched49 wrote:
In some cameras, the shutter stays open even when it's turned off, one reason I will never purchase a Nikon Z camera.


Believe it or not it's to protect the shutter blades which are 1000x more delicate than the sensor.

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Oct 23, 2019 22:41:40   #
User ID
 
chrisg-optical wrote:

Believe it or not it's to protect the shutter
blades which are 1000x more delicate than
the sensor.


Nice try.

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Oct 23, 2019 23:45:47   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
User ID wrote:
Nice try.


It's true - the sensor is much more durable than the shutter which is much more sensitive to damage by dust, dirt and oil contamination - that is why they retract the shutter blades when off or after an exposure sequence (in the case of a DSLR - MILCs have to retract to expose the sensor for the EVF). Shutter blades are thinner than rice paper - dust buildup between the blades can seriously warp or jam the blades causing malfunction. Dust on the sensor can be easily cleaned off with the proper technique. The sensor chip is hermetically sealed under several layers of glass filters and can take a reasonable amount of light pressure with a sterile cleaning wipe designed for sensor cleaning. Shutter blades on the other hand can be easily damaged with user cleaning effort (i.e., applied pressure) except in a controlled repair facility. Even with film SLRs all the user manuals tell you to not touch the shutter blades!

Don't believe me check with a repair tech from one of the major camera makers! That is why the blades are retracted when not in use - off. Shutters (and mirrors in a DSLR) are more delicate than the sensor and can be more easily damaged via touching or pressure.

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Oct 24, 2019 00:55:37   #
Bill P
 
StevenG wrote:
Thank you all for your replies. Much appreciated. It appears the problem may not be as serious as Tony Northrop suggests.


A lot of things aren't as serious as he says.

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Oct 24, 2019 10:18:00   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
Believe it or not it's to protect the shutter blades which are 1000x more delicate than the sensor.


Protect the shutter blades at the expense of getting more dust on the sensor...I guess it makes sense.

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Oct 24, 2019 13:09:30   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Plus a mirrorless camera needs the shutter open when using it. Making it normally open might draw less power.

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Oct 24, 2019 13:19:55   #
Bill P
 
IDguy wrote:
Plus a mirrorless camera needs the shutter open when using it. Making it normally open might draw less power.


It is normally open because it has to be. Imagine if it only opened when you put the camera up to your eye. You would all be screaming about the delay in waking it up. If it was to protect the shutter wouldn't dslr's be made the same way?

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Oct 24, 2019 14:03:09   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Bill P wrote:
It is normally open because it has to be. Imagine if it only opened when you put the camera up to your eye. You would all be screaming about the delay in waking it up. If it was to protect the shutter wouldn't dslr's be made the same way?


Some mirrorless close the shutter when the camera is off.

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Oct 24, 2019 19:26:45   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
Some people like Tony Northrop attract more dust.

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Oct 25, 2019 10:35:05   #
pecohen Loc: Central Maine
 
olemikey wrote:
Dust is more prevalent in some places than in others. If is a fact of life. Many have learned good practices (as you are already seeing), pay attention to those. If it is allowed to accumulate, kids, pets and you will stir it up evry time there is movement.

If your in home/in work environment has high inclination for static electricity buildup (like socks on carpet) it will tend to hold dust on your devices. In home, with A/C, Heating, or whole house ventilation, if that air flow is not filtered, well.... you are pulling in dust, pollen, spores, and the like into your home, onto your stuff (and breathing it as well). We use (high quality) Hepa air filters in the air handler, and change them on a regular schedule, often, as in approx. every 6 weeks in summertime, 2 months or so rest of year. During the winter months, when windows would be open at times, I close/keep closed the camera armoire. All of these things help mitigate.

I did really like Jerry's clean room pic!!! I worked around that type environment at times, hated the gear, but appreciated why!!

I check my gear on a semi-regular basis, and whenever I'm going to use a certain body and lens (or lenses) I check them/blower bulb to lens and caps, front and back, camera body face down bulb blower prior to use. The mention about lens caps (front/rear) is also true - think about where you put them when not attached....I always blow mine off/out prior to putting back on lens, or camera body.

This regimine has served me well, as I rarely have to actually clean a sensor, the bulb blower does the job, along with clean practices. Do thoroughly clean anything I buy used, new stuff, if needed.
Dust is more prevalent in some places than in othe... (show quote)


Static electric charges build up when there is motion that causes two objects to rub against each-other - like socks on a rug or a balloon on a head of hair. It would seem that when when there is physical movement in a camera, that would generate a static charge that could attract dust.

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