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Oct 18, 2019 11:57:43   #
oldseadog43kc Loc: Kansas City, Mo.
 
Recently installed a new monitor, monitor has been calibrated, use outside source for most printing, use various Lightroom versions for editing… my question relates to the lighting in the room where I edit. Lots of sunlight though I can shut the blinds and can edit in the evening if that matters, bright incandescent bulb in an overhead fixture. What is the optimal lighting setup if I could configure the room [light source behind, in front of or overhead relative to the monitor]and lighting? Thanks in advance for your feedback.

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Oct 18, 2019 12:08:03   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
It's not really what lighting that is important it's that it's NOT mixed lighting, and that it's constant. So it's the same day or night or mid day. That's the optimal lighting. Also, for the best lighting a neutral gray paint on your walls etc. No bright colors surrounding your photo editing area. Also, calibrating your monitor in that lighting. You don't just calibrate once and done. You must calibrate every couple of weeks or so in the lighting conditions you are editing in.

That said, most people that do this as a hobby aren't going to go to those extremes to edit photos. So just get yourself one or two good monitors, and a calibration tool, close the drapes, turn on one light and go.

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Oct 18, 2019 20:12:14   #
oldseadog43kc Loc: Kansas City, Mo.
 
Thanks … great practical suggestions. Photography is a hobby that I want to do well.

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Oct 19, 2019 00:50:02   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
It's not really what lighting that is important it's that it's NOT mixed lighting, and that it's constant. So it's the same day or night or mid day. That's the optimal lighting. Also, for the best lighting a neutral gray paint on your walls etc. No bright colors surrounding your photo editing area. Also, calibrating your monitor in that lighting. You don't just calibrate once and done. You must calibrate every couple of weeks or so in the lighting conditions you are editing in.

That said, most people that do this as a hobby aren't going to go to those extremes to edit photos. So just get yourself one or two good monitors, and a calibration tool, close the drapes, turn on one light and go.
It's not really what lighting that is important it... (show quote)


This is nonsense. The colors the monitor displays are not influenced by the room's lighting or the color of the walls.

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Oct 19, 2019 01:15:44   #
jdubu Loc: San Jose, CA
 
rook2c4 wrote:
This is nonsense. The colors the monitor displays are not influenced by the room's lighting or the color of the walls.


No, but your perception of the monitor colors CAN BE influenced by light temperature and wall colors.

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Oct 19, 2019 08:25:50   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
jdubu wrote:
No, but your perception of the monitor colors CAN BE influenced by light temperature and wall colors.


Your perception of the monitor colors "WILL BE INFLUENCED" by the light temp and wall colors.
Fluorescent vs incandescent vs LED also affect how you will perceive colors.

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Oct 19, 2019 08:28:54   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
It's not really what lighting that is important it's that it's NOT mixed lighting, and that it's constant. So it's the same day or night or mid day. That's the optimal lighting. Also, for the best lighting a neutral gray paint on your walls etc. No bright colors surrounding your photo editing area. Also, calibrating your monitor in that lighting. You don't just calibrate once and done. You must calibrate every couple of weeks or so in the lighting conditions you are editing in.

That said, most people that do this as a hobby aren't going to go to those extremes to edit photos. So just get yourself one or two good monitors, and a calibration tool, close the drapes, turn on one light and go.
It's not really what lighting that is important it... (show quote)


If your that concerned , Keep the blinds shut & get yourself some daylight bulbs. I use the xrite i1display pro calibrator & have it set to adjust the monitor for ambient room lighting every 10 minutes which is probably overkill if I kept the blinds shut during the day. Have fun , Tom

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Oct 19, 2019 09:44:29   #
oldseadog43kc Loc: Kansas City, Mo.
 
Thanks to those who took the time to understand the question and provide constructive advice.

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Oct 19, 2019 10:03:28   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
oldseadog43kc wrote:
Recently installed a new monitor, monitor has been calibrated, use outside source for most printing, use various Lightroom versions for editing… my question relates to the lighting in the room where I edit. Lots of sunlight though I can shut the blinds and can edit in the evening if that matters, bright incandescent bulb in an overhead fixture. What is the optimal lighting setup if I could configure the room [light source behind, in front of or overhead relative to the monitor]and lighting? Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Recently installed a new monitor, monitor has been... (show quote)


As the first step in the calibration process, My Spyder system analyzes the ambient lighting and accounts for it when applying corrections to my display. The instructions even make reference to maintaining similar lighting during subsequent work. That said, best practice has for years called for lower ambient light levels when using a display than when doing other "desk work," (50 lumens or so vs. 80-100) and elimination of any glare from the screen. Your eye-brain system will adjust to the most prominent light that it receives and processes. For editing, that needs to be the light generated by the image on the monitor.

And...I know that there is a lot of hypersensitivity here to references to aging effects. But the simple fact is that as we get older, our eyes, along with our ears, are the first organs that lose optimum function. Coupled with the fact that about 35% of us have less than perfect color vision to start out (mostly either red/green or pastel), color assessment is iffy in the best of situations.

International standards specify both lighting levels and background wall colors and brightness, along with several other parameyers, for critical color assessment and judgement work

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Oct 19, 2019 10:19:02   #
oldseadog43kc Loc: Kansas City, Mo.
 
At 76 years of age and having worn trifocals for 30 years my perception is a struggle. Regular calibration and a uniform environment will need to be implement. Thanks.

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Oct 19, 2019 11:47:47   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
rook2c4 wrote:
This is nonsense. The colors the monitor displays are not influenced by the room's lighting or the color of the walls.


Not true. Your perception of colors are highly influenced by the room lighting (color temperature) and the color temperature of the light reflected off the walls is altered by the color of the walls. Remember, you are not just looking at your monitor, you are looking at your monitor in the context of your surroundings.

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Oct 19, 2019 12:03:30   #
marty wild Loc: England
 
Get black out blinds this solves everything

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Oct 19, 2019 12:35:23   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
rook2c4 wrote:
This is nonsense. The colors the monitor displays are not influenced by the room's lighting or the color of the walls.


What's nonsense is your total lack of knowledge of the subject as proven by your post. Lighting in the editing environment will absolutely effect outcome unless you control the ambient lighting and always perform you edits under the same conditions. There's a bit more to this, but starting with color balancing (correcting) your monitor, setting a proper brightness and using the proper icc profiles for making prints (or having prints made for you) is a great start. It may seem silly and it might even seem insurmountable, but with a little actual knowledge (read the Red River website) and a calibration tool (Spyder or XRite) and some actual practice, it gets a lot easier. Before you just blow this off, I suggest you learn about it and try it, as your results will be better prints, no matter who makes them . Best of luck.

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Oct 19, 2019 13:52:15   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
cjc2 wrote:
What's nonsense is your total lack of knowledge of the subject as proven by your post. Lighting in the editing environment will absolutely effect outcome unless you control the ambient lighting and always perform you edits under the same conditions. There's a bit more to this, but starting with color balancing (correcting) your monitor, setting a proper brightness and using the proper icc profiles for making prints (or having prints made for you) is a great start. It may seem silly and it might even seem insurmountable, but with a little actual knowledge (read the Red River website) and a calibration tool (Spyder or XRite) and some actual practice, it gets a lot easier. Before you just blow this off, I suggest you learn about it and try it, as your results will be better prints, no matter who makes them . Best of luck.
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Oct 19, 2019 14:10:26   #
JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell
 
oldseadog43kc wrote:
Recently installed a new monitor, monitor has been calibrated, use outside source for most printing, use various Lightroom versions for editing… my question relates to the lighting in the room where I edit. Lots of sunlight though I can shut the blinds and can edit in the evening if that matters, bright incandescent bulb in an overhead fixture. What is the optimal lighting setup if I could configure the room [light source behind, in front of or overhead relative to the monitor]and lighting? Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Recently installed a new monitor, monitor has been... (show quote)


This is another one of those "its your choice" subjects. What may be right for others may not be right for you so there is little value in considering the opinions of others. IMHO

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