Mac OS Catalina
Oct 12, 2019 02:10:50 #
I've been told that this update will not allow 32bit app to run.
My Adobe Apps (Lightroom /Photoshop) etc are all 32 bit and up to date .
Does anyone know whether this information is correct ?
My Adobe Apps (Lightroom /Photoshop) etc are all 32 bit and up to date .
Does anyone know whether this information is correct ?
Oct 12, 2019 02:14:03 #
Hammer wrote:
I've been told that this update will not allow 32bit app to run.
My Adobe Apps (Lightroom /Photoshop) etc are all 32 bit and up to date .
Does anyone know whether this information is correct ?
My Adobe Apps (Lightroom /Photoshop) etc are all 32 bit and up to date .
Does anyone know whether this information is correct ?
That is correct, BUT if your Adobe apps are up to date then they are 64 bit.
Oct 12, 2019 04:59:25 #
Thanks for your help.
You made me recheck and you are correct, of course. however , I've now found that I have lots of Adobe stuff that is also 32 bit. I must have more than one copy of the Applications on my system. When I ran "Go64" and asked it to show the 32bit Apps , there was the Adobe stuff. I stopped there and panicked.
Will now get a coffee and relax.
You made me recheck and you are correct, of course. however , I've now found that I have lots of Adobe stuff that is also 32 bit. I must have more than one copy of the Applications on my system. When I ran "Go64" and asked it to show the 32bit Apps , there was the Adobe stuff. I stopped there and panicked.
Will now get a coffee and relax.
Oct 12, 2019 04:59:26 #
Thanks for your help.
You made me recheck and you are correct, of course. however , I've now found that I have lots of Adobe stuff that is also 32 bit. I must have more than one copy of the Applications on my system. When I ran "Go64" and asked it to show the 32bit Apps , there was the Adobe stuff. I stopped there and panicked.
Will now get a coffee and relax.
You made me recheck and you are correct, of course. however , I've now found that I have lots of Adobe stuff that is also 32 bit. I must have more than one copy of the Applications on my system. When I ran "Go64" and asked it to show the 32bit Apps , there was the Adobe stuff. I stopped there and panicked.
Will now get a coffee and relax.
Oct 12, 2019 12:00:02 #
I participate in some Adobe sponsored "Help" forums. Catalina posts and troubles are not infrequent, even with the 64 bit stuff. Blame Adobe or blame Apple. Either way, some are getting stuck helplessly in the middle.
Oct 13, 2019 08:16:44 #
Here is what I have found after several days of research and talking with Apple, et al. I am running Mojave latest version on a 21" iMac and LR 6.14 (the resident on your computer version that I purchased several years ago). If you go to ABOUT THIS MAC (the apple icon in the upper left) and click on SYSTEM REPORT in the ensuing pop-up, you will get a report on everything in the mac.
Click on Legacy Software under the Software group. It will show that LR is 32 bit. If you click on Applications in the same software grouping - you will see that LR is a 64 bit app. What gives. I talked to Apple and they say the 64 bit is correct BUT there are components of the 6.14 installation that have 32 bit pieces and that these will not run! The 32 bit pieces are things like the install and uninstall modules.
In checking with Adobe forums I saw where one gentleman had updated to Catalina and his LR6.14 ran fine. However, if he ever has to re-install it or uninstall it for any reason he was out of luck.
Apple also told me that you can revert from Catalina back to Mojave in really necessary. This involves clearing your boot drive, and restoring from a backup - Apple said that if you use TimeMachine and IT IS CURRENT that would be an excellent recovery device.
I am currently extracting some 60,000 photos which are encapsulated within Aperture which will not run on Catalina and when I finish that I will upgrade. I will post result hopefully by this time next week.
Hope this helps someone.
Click on Legacy Software under the Software group. It will show that LR is 32 bit. If you click on Applications in the same software grouping - you will see that LR is a 64 bit app. What gives. I talked to Apple and they say the 64 bit is correct BUT there are components of the 6.14 installation that have 32 bit pieces and that these will not run! The 32 bit pieces are things like the install and uninstall modules.
In checking with Adobe forums I saw where one gentleman had updated to Catalina and his LR6.14 ran fine. However, if he ever has to re-install it or uninstall it for any reason he was out of luck.
Apple also told me that you can revert from Catalina back to Mojave in really necessary. This involves clearing your boot drive, and restoring from a backup - Apple said that if you use TimeMachine and IT IS CURRENT that would be an excellent recovery device.
I am currently extracting some 60,000 photos which are encapsulated within Aperture which will not run on Catalina and when I finish that I will upgrade. I will post result hopefully by this time next week.
Hope this helps someone.
Oct 13, 2019 11:02:34 #
When I check my legacy software list it shows the following as 32 bit code:
1)AAMUpdatesNotifier (assume no more update notices from Adobe in re LR)
2)adobe_licutil (license check utility, might affect license verification and not allow running?)
3)dynamiclinkmanager (I don't know where LR uses dynamic links but if link manager can't run dynamic links won't work. I would expect interproduct links to fail.)
4)Adobe QT32 Server (Presumably handles multiple connections so losing this might disable a lot of things in LR. Wonder if PS links would fail?)
5)AdobeIPCBroker (Handles comms between multiple Adobe products so lose this and lose interaction between Adobe products)
6)UpdaterStartupUtility (No more updates anyway so maybe least of the damage done by switch to Catalina.)
All in all, I wouldn't take the chance of updating to Catalina if you want to stay with LR 6. It's not like we haven't had notice. Adobe is taking advantage of the opportunity to "force" LR users to either pay it's subscription fee to get 64 bit compatibility, or to move to a different product (which many are doing), or get no more updates to LR 6. Adobe could have easily upgraded the above components to 64 bit but didn't so you know it was to push users to their subscription model.
I don't blame the company for doing that. Software maintenance and improvement is more expensive than building from scratch using new and improved development tools so the money has to come from somewhere. When you modify software in place you almost always break something unless you've got a very well endowed QA team to catch bugs before update release. QA is one of the harder aspects of software product development/maintenance and the older the product is the harder the QA. Another reason Adobe is abandoning legacy code. After a while it just gets too expensive to maintain while adding features, fixes, or improvements in existing features.
1)AAMUpdatesNotifier (assume no more update notices from Adobe in re LR)
2)adobe_licutil (license check utility, might affect license verification and not allow running?)
3)dynamiclinkmanager (I don't know where LR uses dynamic links but if link manager can't run dynamic links won't work. I would expect interproduct links to fail.)
4)Adobe QT32 Server (Presumably handles multiple connections so losing this might disable a lot of things in LR. Wonder if PS links would fail?)
5)AdobeIPCBroker (Handles comms between multiple Adobe products so lose this and lose interaction between Adobe products)
6)UpdaterStartupUtility (No more updates anyway so maybe least of the damage done by switch to Catalina.)
All in all, I wouldn't take the chance of updating to Catalina if you want to stay with LR 6. It's not like we haven't had notice. Adobe is taking advantage of the opportunity to "force" LR users to either pay it's subscription fee to get 64 bit compatibility, or to move to a different product (which many are doing), or get no more updates to LR 6. Adobe could have easily upgraded the above components to 64 bit but didn't so you know it was to push users to their subscription model.
I don't blame the company for doing that. Software maintenance and improvement is more expensive than building from scratch using new and improved development tools so the money has to come from somewhere. When you modify software in place you almost always break something unless you've got a very well endowed QA team to catch bugs before update release. QA is one of the harder aspects of software product development/maintenance and the older the product is the harder the QA. Another reason Adobe is abandoning legacy code. After a while it just gets too expensive to maintain while adding features, fixes, or improvements in existing features.
Oct 13, 2019 12:09:11 #
Mac OS Catalina does NOT run anything less than 64 bit applications, something they have been telling us for over a year, sometimes in a pop-up window when a 32 bit application was run. I have updated this machine to Catalina, a MacBook Pro and have played with Lr on it. So far, everything I've tested works, but I have yet to test printing which I will get to. I have not updated my iMac PRO as I have been warned by many sources that there are still some issues with Lr and that is my main PP machine. I am normally a very early adaptor, but I'm going to wait a bit this time due to the 64 bit requirement. I believe that Adobe has stated that it has a small bit of work to complete. Best of luck.
Oct 13, 2019 13:14:31 #
Why do people think that when Apple says it won't run 32 bit programs, that it will run 32 bit programs?
MAC OS CATALINA WILL NOT RUN 32 BIT PROGRAMS.
MAC OS CATALINA WILL NOT RUN 32 BIT PROGRAMS.
Oct 13, 2019 17:18:42 #
xt2
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
Hammer wrote:
I've been told that this update will not allow 32bit app to run.
My Adobe Apps (Lightroom /Photoshop) etc are all 32 bit and up to date .
Does anyone know whether this information is correct ?
My Adobe Apps (Lightroom /Photoshop) etc are all 32 bit and up to date .
Does anyone know whether this information is correct ?
32 bit software can operate in a 64 bit OS environment, not as well as 64 bit software, however, they can run. Some specific software such as Aperture is unable to run, however. Even if you forget to migrate photos from Aperture before installing Catalina, there are several methods of extracting the photos without Aperture. Check with your developers for details of your software.
Cheers!
Oct 13, 2019 18:23:40 #
xt2 wrote:
32 bit software can operate in a 64 bit OS environment, not as well as 64 bit software, however, they can run. Some specific software such as Aperture is unable to run, however. Even if you forget to migrate photos from Aperture before installing Catalina, there are several methods of extracting the photos without Aperture. Check with your developers for details of your software.
Cheers!
Cheers!
It can but it won't. 32 Bit programs will show up as ? and won't open.
If you have not migrated Aperture to something else, you can import an Aperture library into Photos.
Oct 13, 2019 18:36:25 #
Mac OS Catalina is first Mac OS to run 64 bit exclusively. App developers have had several months to upgrade 32 bit apps to 64bit. Apple has been clear on this for quite awhile with nearly all 32 bit apps opening in Sierra and earlier eliciting warnings to users to upgrade their 32?bit apps. I have been successful upgrading key apps, and some are still 32 bit and definitely do not open on Catalina. Check with app web sites for upgrades.
Oct 14, 2019 03:04:19 #
That was a great help. It is certainly a worry that there are some 32 bit stuff in the latest Adobe products , crazy.
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