repleo wrote:
Yes, a FF lens on a crop sensor should have better edge-to-edge sharpness than on a FF body. However a couple of things to think about with your 'future proof ' strategy.
1. How important is edge-to-edge sharpness for what you shoot?
2. How realistic is your potential move to FF?
3. If you buy the focal lenses you need for your crop camera, they will probably not be the focal lenses you will want for your potential FF.
2. Some mediocre FF lenses may perform on your crop as good as a high quality crop lens for around the same price. However, there is not much point in going to FF unless you have top quality FF lenses. If you buy the top quality lenses now, you will be paying for edge-to-edge performance you won't benefit from on your crop camera.
3. Consider the extra weight and bulk of high quality FF lenses. That extra weight can sap the fun and spontaneity out of a walk or trip.
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Good points. These kinds of posts should be very helpful to novices.
At the other end of the rainbow is a full-frame camera with your name on it.
chippy65 wrote:
As the performance of camera lenses falls away when you examine the edge of the picture, does a full frame lens ( FX DG etc ) on a camera body
which has a cropped sensor perform better than when mounted on a full frame sensor body? In the case of the cropped frame camera body
does the fact that the edge of the image falls outside the sensor improve the performance.? Complicated I know by the apparent change
in focal length............... More expensive lenses I know, but also worth thinking about "future proofing" in the event of going full frame.
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Short answer, I'd say yes to your initial question. Having also worked with 4x5" and larger View Cameras I am fairly familiar with fields of coverage or what is known as Image Circle. View camera large format lenses usually have huge image circles so you can move the front and/or back around (up-down-shift-tilt-side to side).
Since Pentax only put out a FF DSLR finally a few years ago the vast majority of Pentax "Digital" lenses were for Cropped Factor (APS-C) Sensor cameras and called "DA-series" lenses. They also had a few fancier high-end ones called DA*(star)-series. For a few years before the Pentax FF K-1 & K-1mkii cameras they were also putting out newer FF digital lenses called "D FA". And now they also seem to have some mainly in the Japanese market that are "DFA HD" FF High Definition or something that cost $$$!
But I have a couple DA and a DA* lenses, but mainly a huge number ~ 28 older/vintage Pentax "film" lenses that are all full frame in essence. These include manual focus manual exposure M-42 Takumar lenses, K-Mount(K-series), K(M-series) lenses; and AE K(A-series); and AF/AE K(FA-series) lenses. All can be mounted and used on a Pentax DSLR but the A-, FA-, and later digital models are most convenient to use. So I pretty much agree with your thesis about Nikon lenses as well, though as far as I can tell my sharpest lenses seems to be my Pentax DA 35mm 1:2.8 Macro Limited Lens. Not in keeping with our "bigger (image) is better" idea.
Odd factoid: I found that if mounting my Pentax DA* 16-50mm 1:2.8 (high-end) Zoom lens on a tele-extender it will then cover fully a 35mm film frame of 24-36mm (or a FF DSLR if I had one). Problem is the lens has no Click-stops as is the case with most "digital" lenses.
chippy65 wrote:
As the performance of camera lenses falls away when you examine the edge of the picture, does a full frame lens ( FX DG etc ) on a camera body
which has a cropped sensor perform better than when mounted on a full frame sensor body? In the case of the cropped frame camera body
does the fact that the edge of the image falls outside the sensor improve the performance.? Complicated I know by the apparent change
in focal length............... More expensive lenses I know, but also worth thinking about "future proofing" in the event of going full frame.
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I have an older 16-35mm AF Nikkor. It is a serviceable lens on my D810 or D850. Probably somewhere between marginal and adequate. But it is a great lens on my D500. Most of its shortcomings are in the corners, and therefore they don't matter on the DX camera.
GoofyNewfie, that's a rainbow of love, but alas, not the pot of full-frame gold you should be searching for.
Longshadow wrote:
THAT's different!
Clown camera.
(no disrespect meant to Pentax owners)
Longshadow wrote:
THAT's different!
That's the Dr Timothy Leary model!
I have a friend who owns a Nikon D7100, and he uses the FX 28-300mm lens on it 90% of the time. He really loves that lens. I own a Nikon 24 megapixels DX camera. I own only one FX lens. One of my favorites is the inexpensive DX version 35mm f1.8. I have been told, that one of the sharpest DX zoom lens, is the Nikon 17-55mm f2.8. A lot better than my 18:55mm kit lens, that came with my camera. Unfortunately, I have never seen any photographer with a DX camera, who owned the DX 17-55mm f2.8 lens. I also discovered, it is not a cheap lens. Full frame lenses are likely better than crop sensor formatted lenses. Having a larger sensor on a full frame, has more positive points than negative points. I have seen professional photographers owning both full frame and crop sensor cameras. A Canon owner, can own a 5D Mark 4 and a 7D Mark 2. And a Nikon D850 owner can own a Nikon D500. The best of two worlds, with quality cameras.
CHG_CANON wrote:
If your sensor throws away 60% of the frame, how will you ever achieve your potential as a photographer?
Excellent observation - that’s the reason they a good photographer NEVER crops an image EVER. Sheesh!!
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