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Oct 6, 2019 01:15:13   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Rongnongno wrote:
I just do not know what.

First:
1) the focus is slightly off
2) the aperture is too small resulting into a too short (narrow) depth of field
Both 1 and 2 can be corrected using stacking.

You may consider that the format ratio is off but that is a choice so not an issue.

There is something else that makes me question the whole image but I cannot pin point it.

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If you do not like the narrow dof, than the aperture is too large, not too small!

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Oct 6, 2019 06:52:53   #
Jim21
 
Yes, it's the linear composition. Recropping with the flowers on a diagonal might help, but the ideal would be a triangular composition and, perhaps, a different light angle.

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Oct 6, 2019 08:52:36   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
My comments are directed to the first image you posted.

1) "the focus is slightly off." I do not agree. You made a selective focus of the central flower and the rest is depth of field effect.
2) "the aperture is too small resulting into a too short (narrow) depth of field." All the contrary, the aperture to my eyes seems to be TOO large. Smaller apertures usually render greater depth of field.

If you ask me I would be very happy with this image.

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Oct 6, 2019 08:59:07   #
JimBart Loc: Western Michigan
 
Just my .02 worth but the blurred background takes away the true pic.
I’d like to see a solid black background to place emphasis on a single or all the flowers. Perhaps showing the stem and how the flowers hang ( like lilies of the valley) may add more.

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Oct 6, 2019 10:02:28   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
On background... Most of it is dead stuff and prickly plants of no interest.
On focusing, the focus is incorrect as it is inside the flower. The dof could have been greater to 'save it' but I made a serious error here.
The horizontal composition is a choice. It would have worked much better if the flower was by itself and on the right.

Yes, I know the error I made when using 'small aperture' I do not know what I was thinking when I typed that. It was short/narrow dof, the result of a fully open diaphragm.

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Oct 6, 2019 10:22:02   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
Rongnongno wrote:
On background... Most of it is dead stuff and prickly plants of no interest.
On focusing, the focus is incorrect as it is inside the flower. The dof could have been greater to 'save it' but I made a serious error here.
The horizontal composition is a choice. It would have worked much better if the flower was by itself and on the right.

Yes, I know the error I made when using 'small aperture' I do not know what I was thinking when I typed that. It was short/narrow dof, the result of a fully open diaphragm.
On background... Most of it is dead stuff and pri... (show quote)


I my opinion the only problem is the background. If you could have, probably not, placed a brown shopping bag behind the flowers it would have been great. The flowers are fine. The DOF could be better but on a windy day almost impossible to expect everything in focus. I proved the background being the problem by blurring your existing background using the method I showed on my recent post over in Post Production Area. I will post my version if you like. I'm respecting your statement.......
"Do not post pictures or edits in any of the threads I create unless you are specifically invited to."

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Oct 6, 2019 12:51:23   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
Rongnongno wrote:
I just do not know what.

First:
1) the focus is slightly off
2) the aperture is too small resulting into a too short (narrow) depth of field
Both 1 and 2 can be corrected using stacking.

You may consider that the format ratio is off but that is a choice so not an issue.

There is something else that makes me question the whole image but I cannot pin point it.

.

I don’t like the right side flower or the fact that it is partly covered by leaves. I think it detracts from the other two flowers but adds nothing. I would see what I could do with the left two flowers by themselves.
...Cam

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Oct 6, 2019 13:16:15   #
srt101fan
 
Rongnongno wrote:
I just do not know what.

First:
1) the focus is slightly off
2) the aperture is too small resulting into a too short (narrow) depth of field
Both 1 and 2 can be corrected using stacking.

You may consider that the format ratio is off but that is a choice so not an issue.

There is something else that makes me question the whole image but I cannot pin point it.

.


I think it's a great photo. I don't see any focus or background issues; no problem with the horizontal format or aspect ratio (I like it!)

I find the third flower and the stem in front of it a bit distracting in that they overlap. I wonder if it would look better if the flower were cropped out, erased or somehow have its visual impact reduced. [Edit: Just saw CamB's post! I agree with him]

Off-the-wall comment: The flowers look like little creatures that stepped out of a Dali or Hieronymus Bosch canvas.....

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Oct 6, 2019 14:07:11   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Jim-Pops wrote:
I my opinion the only problem is the background. If you could have, probably not, placed a brown shopping bag behind the flowers it would have been great. The flowers are fine. The DOF could be better but on a windy day almost impossible to expect everything in focus. I proved the background being the problem by blurring your existing background using the method I showed on my recent post over in Post Production Area. I will post my version if you like. I'm respecting your statement.......
"Do not post pictures or edits in any of the threads I create unless you are specifically invited to."
I my opinion the only problem is the background. I... (show quote)


Please post it

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Oct 6, 2019 14:19:42   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Please post it


Thank you, here it is.......


(Download)

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Oct 6, 2019 14:25:34   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
Rongnongno wrote:
I just do not know what.

First:
1) the focus is slightly off
2) the aperture is too small resulting into a too short (narrow) depth of field
Both 1 and 2 can be corrected using stacking.

You may consider that the format ratio is off but that is a choice so not an issue.

There is something else that makes me question the whole image but I cannot pin point it.

.


I see what you mean. For me, I would remove the 3rd (distant right plant ) from the image as it is distracting to me and then , like you indicated, stack and sharpen the 2 main flowers a bit more and maybe crop a hair more as well but I hesitate to crop anything these days because I love full frame images.

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Oct 6, 2019 14:40:24   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Jim-Pops wrote:
Thank you, here it is.......


It is better.

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Oct 6, 2019 14:44:53   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
Rongnongno wrote:
I just do not know what.

First:
1) the focus is slightly off
2) the aperture is too small resulting into a too short (narrow) depth of field
Both 1 and 2 can be corrected using stacking.

You may consider that the format ratio is off but that is a choice so not an issue.

There is something else that makes me question the whole image but I cannot pin point it.

.


....When I look at this image, I see a very busy Background/Bokeh. It really stands out as a distraction to my view.

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Oct 6, 2019 14:46:46   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
Rongnongno wrote:
It is better.


At this point I could brighten and sharpen the flowers without effecting the background. Or change the background entirely, but then it might not be considered an original.🤔

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Oct 6, 2019 14:50:36   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
So after reading all one more time...

- Revise my description
- Background is distracting
- There is specific point of interest, it is 'just there'.

Everything here is true and I agree.

So my conclusion? This is a throw away.

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