Printing questions
I have seen in a store pictures hanging on the wall for sale and mostly printed on canvas. Supposedly my printer a Canon Pro 10 will print on canvas so I am wondering what type of canvas do I need, where to get it and how much does it cost? Also Matte paper was recommended to me and I have some, Canon gives away free paper when you order ink, but it leaves a very large border around the picture and it seems to use a lot of ink. Is there anyway around losing so much paper to the border? Also the price in this shop for the most expensive pictures is $250. frame included. The largest one is about 20 x 30, give or take, with a wood frame and matting. It looks like the frame costs a lot more than the picture.
I'm looking for clarification on how all this works.
Thank you;
Mark
Good frames are expensive. I have a small collection of antique woodblock prints - they were not inexpensive, and in every case, the custom frame, glass and mounting cost more than the print. Two options, off the shelf frames at places like Hobby Lobby, or if you have tools & skill, DIY.
I only have the Pro 100, but what you have to do is select the proportion in the menu and view it in preview before printing - you can do borderless if you wish (and can either crop the image a bit or have the correct proportion). No experience with canvas. Best of luck moving forward!
I personally do not like framed photographs, preferring a floating frameless look. Look t Mpix or Bay Photo Labs for pricing and requirements for canvas printing.
I have never been happy with home-printed canvas photos.
I have canvas prints printed by an outside source. Do not want the bother.
ngrea
Loc: Sandy Spring, Maryland
I shop for used frames in thrift stores. Most need a good cleaning and a little touch up, but you can get amazing frames, complete with mat and glass, for $5. Costco is good for canvas prints. If you print them yourself you will still need to stretch the canvas. I hang canvas prints without a frame (the photo wraps around the edge) for a plain and simple display.
Great question most of us ask sooner or later and great answers. Stepping into the printing arena is fraught with a complex area of technology and requires a strong commitment to learn to do it well, not to mention costs. As mentioned above, there are great printing services that can print to your style, size and frame preferences. Michaels is another source of generic frames, at multiple price points. All most all canvas comes as a roll, so the printer to handle it is going to be on the more advanced amateur or professional level. You can purchase stretch frames and do it your self from a variety of suppliers. Costco is a great reasonably price source for printing, but has a very limited range of media and size. No panoramas. Professional labs, like Color Services in Santa Barber will do a test print for you if you ask and will offer advice on media etc. There are many others around the country. Good luck.
The Capt. wrote:
I have seen in a store pictures hanging on the wall for sale and mostly printed on canvas. Supposedly my printer a Canon Pro 10 will print on canvas so I am wondering what type of canvas do I need, where to get it and how much does it cost? Also Matte paper was recommended to me and I have some, Canon gives away free paper when you order ink, but it leaves a very large border around the picture and it seems to use a lot of ink. Is there anyway around losing so much paper to the border? Also the price in this shop for the most expensive pictures is $250. frame included. The largest one is about 20 x 30, give or take, with a wood frame and matting. It looks like the frame costs a lot more than the picture.
I'm looking for clarification on how all this works.
Thank you;
Mark
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https://www.lexjet.com/worldofcanvashttps://www.freedompaper.com/inkjet-canvas-paper-rollshttps://www.jerrysartarama.com/paper/inkjet-digital-paperThese sources will get you started. CALL them for samples and recommendations.
Don't forget to use a HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE monitor calibrator from X-Rite or Datacolor to calibrate and profile your monitor. Use a monitor made specifically for editing photographs. BenQ makes some of the most affordable. See Adorama and B&H.
Don't forget to download and install the media-specific ICC profile that matches your canvas to your printer! You won't like the results without it.
Also, regarding paper coverage efficiency, that is all controlled by the software on your computer. Apps like Adobe Lightroom have sophisticated print layout programs in them. You can create ANY layout for your printer's capabilities. You can create package prints (remember school portraits?). You can interface with the printer driver. You can control color management. With some apps, including Canon DPP, Photoshop, and Lightroom Classic... and probably more, you can use Canon's plug-in, PIXMA Print Studio Pro. Canon printer owners who are not using it are missing out! It's free. Watch this video:
https://youtu.be/H0ziyzC2u1k
Fredrick
Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
Photomac wrote:
Great question most of us ask sooner or later and great answers. Stepping into the printing arena is fraught with a complex area of technology and requires a strong commitment to learn to do it well, not to mention costs. As mentioned above, there are great printing services that can print to your style, size and frame preferences. Michaels is another source of generic frames, at multiple price points. All most all canvas comes as a roll, so the printer to handle it is going to be on the more advanced amateur or professional level. You can purchase stretch frames and do it your self from a variety of suppliers. Costco is a great reasonably price source for printing, but has a very limited range of media and size. No panoramas. Professional labs, like Color Services in Santa Barber will do a test print for you if you ask and will offer advice on media etc. There are many others around the country. Good luck.
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pictureframes.com
custompictureframes.com
Try these. More expensive than thrift store but not bad.
If you want a print with a small white border, that is done with settings in PS orother photo sprware, or perhaps in the printer's software, I'm not familiar with Canon.I don't mean to be nasty, but getting the large amount of paper unprinted is operator error.
I can't begin to recommend Red River Paper highly enough. Priced good, quick service. And their website can be informative. They sell economical sample packs.
CamB
Loc: Juneau, Alaska
The Capt. wrote:
I have seen in a store pictures hanging on the wall for sale and mostly printed on canvas. Supposedly my printer a Canon Pro 10 will print on canvas so I am wondering what type of canvas do I need, where to get it and how much does it cost? Also Matte paper was recommended to me and I have some, Canon gives away free paper when you order ink, but it leaves a very large border around the picture and it seems to use a lot of ink. Is there anyway around losing so much paper to the border? Also the price in this shop for the most expensive pictures is $250. frame included. The largest one is about 20 x 30, give or take, with a wood frame and matting. It looks like the frame costs a lot more than the picture.
I'm looking for clarification on how all this works.
Thank you;
Mark
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Matting and framing is always more expensive than the prints. Prints are cheap.
If you are printing with giant borders it is because you have set your printing settings to print that way. If you figure out how to match the setting and the paper you can get any size border you want. Or no border. You can't just stick a sheet of paper in the printer. You need to tell the printer all about that paper. What size it is. How you want it to handle your file. What type of paper it is. Borders. Quality. Everything. The printer will print that way you tell it too. It's just a dumb machine.
...Cam
I have an Epson 7900 and print all of my own canvas as well as for some fellow photog friends.
Your printer takes "sheet" substraight, there numerous outlets that provide this. Even the big box stores in NYC like B&H, Adorama etc.
Unless you can stretch your own canvas, which there are kits to do this, I would shy away from it. There are plenty of on-line services that offer gallery wrapped or rolled up canvas at a reasonable price.
As for the price of the images for sale, that's up to the photographer to get what they think the market will bear. My rule of thumb is to charge at least double what it cost me and then add some for creativeness depending on the popularity of the image.
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I have seen in a store pictures hanging on the wall for sale and mostly printed on canvas. Supposedly my printer a Canon Pro 10 will print on canvas so I am wondering what type of canvas do I need, where to get it and how much does it cost? Also Matte paper was recommended to me and I have some, Canon gives away free paper when you order ink, but it leaves a very large border around the picture and it seems to use a lot of ink. Is there anyway around losing so much paper to the border? Also the price in this shop for the most expensive pictures is $250. frame included. The largest one is about 20 x 30, give or take, with a wood frame and matting. It looks like the frame costs a lot more than the picture.
I'm looking for clarification on how all this works.
Thank you;
Mark
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There is a place in Hollywood Florida called Westfall Framing. They have oak frames that you assemble yourself in many sizes and the prices are pretty low. They have frames that are solid oak in different types. They also will cut custom mats to any size. This is a great place for framing supplies.
IKEA has the biggest variety of low cost frames I've seen. They are not "gallery quality" but include glass and matting. I've used them for when I'm sure a gift will be appreciated but won't be a permanent fixture on ones wall.
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