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Oct 6, 2019 10:41:34   #
Heather Iles Loc: UK, Somerset
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Good session- lighting is getting better!

When working out-of-doors in open shade you can use your silver reflecto to create a similar lightg to waht you would do indoors with you flash gear and/or use a black GOBO to shade one side to create more shadow and modeling. .

3rd shot - Good posing of the arms and hands but avoid hiding finger under clothing.

5th shot- Avoid cutting arms midway and havig them leave and reenter the frame them leave and reenter the frame.

6th shot is a good example of having the smalle eye further from the camera.

7th shot- Avoid shooting directly into shoulder.

Edits show composition and some retouchg of eyes.
Good session- lighting is getting better! br br W... (show quote)


Mr Sharpo, you are a master at your art and you are so patient. It is not my thread, but I have enjoyed it so much although a lot of it is over my head. Could you let us see your set up using some lights for a portrature photo when you have time?

Best wishes,

Heather

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Oct 6, 2019 11:05:35   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
GrandmaG wrote:
The two you did edits on were my favorite.

The one where I cut off the elbow is because her elbow looked weird...bad perspective.

I really liked her pose in the 3rd shot and didn’t notice that her fingertips were buried in her clothing. I would have liked her to have worn a more fitted top.

I was going to take my reflector for the outdoor shots but I didn’t have anyone to help me and I didn’t want to take the stand from home and disturb the setup I had so painstakingly set up at home the night before. As it was, once we got home, I ended up moving the light and reflector a LOT every time she moved.

Would a reflector have put more light in her eyes? I didn’t want to use a flash for that (no flash was used BTW).

I told her to pick out solid color tops, not sleeveless and not white and to bring something that was her favorite (that was the dress). For Fall pictures, I told her to pick out fall colors like brown, rust, gold, burgundy, even green.


What is a GOBO? According to “google” it is a stencil that you put in front of a light.

Again, thank you for all your help!
The two you did edits on were my favorite. br br... (show quote)


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"Gobo" stands for GO BETWEEN. It is a black card, flag, disk or the black side of a reflector that block light from striking part of the subject.

Out-of-doors, the reflector can have 2 functions. You can pick up light from a back light source, such as the sun, and redirect it toward the subject to creat a main light source. OR...you can use the sun as the main source , usually in the late afternoon when it is directional, and use the reflector as a fill source- same as you do indoors with the main light. In either case, I try to keep it out of the subject's line of sight to avoid squinting. Theses methods can create good catchlights and illuminate the eyes.

I never run out of reflectors because I make extra ones out of aluminum foil. You can crush the foil, re-expand it and affix it to a 24x24 piece of white Foam-Cor or Coroplast. I use both the shiny and dull sides on separate cards for different effects and leave the backside of the material white for a softer effect. A have a few of those spring loaded collapsible hoop-like reflectors for portability but my homemade ones are cheaply produced and work equally as well.

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Oct 6, 2019 11:08:03   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Heather Iles wrote:
Mr Sharpo, you are a master at your art and you are so patient. It is not my thread, but I have enjoyed it so much although a lot of it is over my head. Could you let us see your set up using some lights for a portrature photo when you have time?

Best wishes,

Heather


Hi, Heather! Would you like to see lighting diagrams or the actual studio setup?

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Oct 7, 2019 01:36:44   #
Heather Iles Loc: UK, Somerset
 
I would please like to see the lighting set. I have bought a set of lights, have backdrops but where I position them is puzzling. GrandmaG is way ahead of me and she is doing really well.

Thank you Ed.

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Oct 7, 2019 15:56:09   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Heather Iles wrote:
I would please like to see the lighting set. I have bought a set of lights, have backdrops but where I position them is puzzling. GrandmaG is way ahead of me and she is doing really well.

Thank you Ed.


You are very welcome! Tell me what lighting gear you have and I will suggest a basic setup for starters.

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Oct 7, 2019 16:12:56   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
You are very welcome! Tell me what lighting gear you have and I will suggest a basic setup for starters.


Thank you. That is something that many of us would benefit from, and appreciate.

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Oct 8, 2019 02:36:48   #
Heather Iles Loc: UK, Somerset
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
You are very welcome! Tell me what lighting gear you have and I will suggest a basic setup for starters.


Thank you Ed. I will have a look and get back to you in a day or so as I have a friend staying with me for a week. Perhaps you can make this a separate thread for the benefit of other members. If would also be helpful for you to refer back to should you be asked the same or a similar question in the future.

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Oct 14, 2019 09:50:04   #
Heather Iles Loc: UK, Somerset
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Thank you. That is something that many of us would benefit from, and appreciate.


Hi Ed,

As promised, I have a 700w Octagon Neewer Soft Box Continuous Lighting kit. There are 2 separate lights 85w x 55cm. Nothing too fancy.

I look forward to seeing your set up and suggestions on my Soft Box. Perhaps I need other gear too, bearing in my it wouldn't be for professional use, only to get the best out of my photos. I hope that is not too contradictory.

Thanks for your time.

H

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Oct 16, 2019 16:06:19   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Heather Iles wrote:
Hi Ed,

As promised, I have a 700w Octagon Neewer Soft Box Continuous Lighting kit. There are 2 separate lights 85w x 55cm. Nothing too fancy.

I look forward to seeing your set up and suggestions on my Soft Box. Perhaps I need other gear too, bearing in my it wouldn't be for professional use, only to get the best out of my photos. I hope that is not too contradictory.

Thanks for your time.

H



Thanks for your reply.

Your 3 unit, continuous lighting setup has good potential. In my own situation, I do most of my studio and location portraiture with electronic flash or controlled natural or available light. Many years ago, however, I started off with high output tungsten lighting as was the usual practice of the day and what, with current LED technology, has reemerged as a viable alternative to flash. Continuous lighting certainly has its advantages in that you can see exactly what you will record in the camera. The aesthetic principles of portrait lighting have more to do with light placement, direction, contrast and technique that it has to do with the equipment choice.

With a 3 light setup, you can use one light for a man or key lighting source, one for a fill light source and the third for an accent, background or hair light. If you add more lights or equipment going forward, you can add an additional light on a boom arm stand for a dedicated hair light, and/or 2 separate background and accent lights. A flat reflector two would be handy as well.

I can show pictures of my studio setup or provide diagrams of a fixed setup but that is not the best way to approach portrait lighting. Most of that would be meaningless without understanding the function of each of the aforementioned lights. In portraiture, each person we photograh has a different personality, facial structure, body style, and requirement. This is why a totally fixed setup is not practical unless we were producing "mug shots", however, simplicity is also important because we want a system that works quickly and easily so we don't fumble with the gear and can concentrate on getting natural and spontaneous expressions and poses.

Since there are a number of members, like yourself, who expressed interest in learning portraiture, I have decided to post a series of lessons, describing the building of a flexible setup. Understanding the function of each light and how they interact with each other is an important set of principles. I will introduce one light at a time and explain its function, type, ways of modification the basic nuts and bolts technique. I will outline lightning type, quality- as to hardness or softness, and various methods of aiming, position and adjusting each light.

The basics are important to the beginner, amateur and professional alike. There are folks with all sorts of sophisticated equipment and yet still experience difficulties in realizing the results they would like to achieve. Oftentimes the simplest lighting method is the best. It is surprising what can be done with a single light and a flat reflector IF you understand the principles and the aesthetics.

I'll put the first lesson together in a few days- STANDBY!



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Oct 16, 2019 18:18:29   #
Heather Iles Loc: UK, Somerset
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Thanks for your reply.

Your 3 unit, continuous lighting setup has good potential. In my own situation, I do most of my studio and location portraiture with electronic flash or controlled natural or available light. Many years ago, however, I started off with high output tungsten lighting as was the usual practice of the day and what, with current LED technology, has reemerged as a viable alternative to flash. Continuous lighting certainly has its advantages in that you can see exactly what you will record in the camera. The aesthetic principles of portrait lighting have more to do with light placement, direction, contrast and technique that it has to do with the equipment choice.

With a 3 light setup, you can use one light for a man or key lighting source, one for a fill light source and the third for an accent, background or hair light. If you add more lights or equipment going forward, you can add an additional light on a boom arm stand for a dedicated hair light, and/or 2 separate background and accent lights. A flat reflector two would be handy as well.

I can show pictures of my studio setup or provide diagrams of a fixed setup but that is not the best way to approach portrait lighting. Most of that would be meaningless without understanding the function of each of the aforementioned lights. In portraiture, each person we photograh has a different personality, facial structure, body style, and requirement. This is why a totally fixed setup is not practical unless we were producing "mug shots", however, simplicity is also important because we want a system that works quickly and easily so we don't fumble with the gear and can concentrate on getting natural and spontaneous expressions and poses.

Since there are a number of members, like yourself, who expressed interest in learning portraiture, I have decided to post a series of lessons, describing the building of a flexible setup. Understanding the function of each light and how they interact with each other is an important set of principles. I will introduce one light at a time and explain its function, type, ways of modification the basic nuts and bolts technique. I will outline lightning type, quality- as to hardness or softness, and various methods of aiming, position and adjusting each light.

The basics are important to the beginner, amateur and professional alike. There are folks with all sorts of sophisticated equipment and yet still experience difficulties in realizing the results they would like to achieve. Oftentimes the simplest lighting method is the best. It is surprising what can be done with a single light and a flat reflector IF you understand the principles and the aesthetics.

I'll put the first lesson together in a few days- STANDBY!
Thanks for your reply. br br Your 3 unit, continu... (show quote)


Thanks, Ed,

That sounds wonderful and I appreciate you taking the time to help members like me.

What you said made a lot of sense as with just a few good pieces of equipment and learning how to make the most of them would stand us in good stead.

I do hope that other members will come forward and show an interest. If you are not told you wouldn't know who is interested.

With time permitting on your part, I look forward to the tutorial.

H

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Dec 24, 2019 05:40:37   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Late again...

Considering the key background you have it would not be hard at all to add a background that does not distract and is more... effective that you edit.

Look at some samples here...

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