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Microsoft Support For Windows 7 To End Soon
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Sep 26, 2019 19:25:22   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
The end of the Life Cycle for Windows 7, is set for mid January 2020. End of Life Cycle means that Microsoft will no longer offer support, Including security updates, etc. Microsoft offered Windows 10 upgrades about 2 years+ ago, for free. Windows 10 did not appeal to everyone when it first came out. It had some bugs that annoyed some. And some, even on this forum did not upgrade to Windows 10. An older laptop I own still has Windows 7. I first learned on a computer with Windows XP. I think Windows 10 will be around for around. With updates to it, rather than going to a new OS. Anytime soon.

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Sep 26, 2019 19:41:14   #
dick ranez
 
Don't forget it is as easy to transition to Mac OS as it is to windows 10. XP support has been gone for several years, but it still works every day to drive special equipment that need it to live.

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Sep 26, 2019 20:09:53   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
dick ranez wrote:
Don't forget it is as easy to transition to Mac OS as it is to windows 10. XP support has been gone for several years, but it still works every day to drive special equipment that need it to live.


I've never owned a Mac. I have a couple of friends who own expensive Mac systems computers. They love them. I knew XP was ended some time ago. I don't use my older HP laptop, that is loaded with Windows 7. It is tucked away in my closet. I don't know of anyone with a PC, who transitioned to a Mac OS system. I didn't know it could be done?

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Sep 26, 2019 20:10:30   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
I have three systems still running Win 7, but looking to replace an 8 or 9 year old hiccuping laptop.
The replacement will come with Win 10.
(The other two will get replaced when they crap out also.)

My first personal computer was a Color Computer by Radio Shack.
Then a DOS based system running DOS 1.x.

Yea, I'm old...

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Sep 26, 2019 20:45:19   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
I have three systems still running Win 7, but looking to replace an 8 or 9 year old hiccuping laptop.
The replacement will come with Win 10.
(The other two will get replaced when they crap out also.)

My first personal computer was a Color Computer by Radio Shack.
Then a DOS based system running DOS 1.x.

Yea, I'm old...


My first HP laptop was purchased in late 2009, the year Windows 7 was released. In late 2012, I bought a new Lenovo laptop. It is my current use laptop. It now has Windows 10. I still have both laptops. I get confused sometimes as to when I purchased my laptops. These year dates are correct. I want a Dell laptop for my next purchase. But, I have learned on this forum, that you can revive your old laptop, by installing a SSD, and you can increase your RAM storage as well. Some say it can turn your old desktop or laptop into like new condition? I'm considering doing that? Maybe get an extra 3 years out of it? B&H sells SSDs of different Brands. With high storages. A 1TB storage is available. My Lenovo has a hard drive storage of 500gb.

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Sep 26, 2019 21:08:23   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
mas24 wrote:
The end of the Life Cycle for Windows 7, is set for mid January 2020. End of Life Cycle means that Microsoft will no longer offer support, Including security updates, etc. Microsoft offered Windows 10 upgrades about 2 years+ ago, for free. Windows 10 did not appeal to everyone when it first came out. It had some bugs that annoyed some. And some, even on this forum did not upgrade to Windows 10. An older laptop I own still has Windows 7. I first learned on a computer with Windows XP. I think Windows 10 will be around for around. With updates to it, rather than going to a new OS. Anytime soon.
The end of the Life Cycle for Windows 7, is set fo... (show quote)


It does not mean Win 7 stops running, just no more support or updates. Some third parties may still provide Ant-virus updates for a time. Not sure about Adobe yet. I used Win XP well into the Win 7 era. Currently I use Win 10 Home 64-bit version 1903, i.e., I'm fully up to date. My bought new Win 10 Dell has 32GB RAM. Though I think Win 10 sort of spies on you for MS.

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Sep 26, 2019 21:13:22   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
I have three systems still running Win 7, but looking to replace an 8 or 9 year old hiccuping laptop.
The replacement will come with Win 10.
(The other two will get replaced when they crap out also.)

My first personal computer was a Color Computer by Radio Shack.
Then a DOS based system running DOS 1.x.

Yea, I'm old...


Actually that is far from the first TRS 80 computer if it ran DOS. My first PC was a Win 3.11 / DOS 6.21 Gateway 2000. I'm old not ancient!

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Sep 26, 2019 21:14:53   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
dick ranez wrote:
Don't forget it is as easy to transition to Mac OS as it is to windows 10. XP support has been gone for several years, but it still works every day to drive special equipment that need it to live.


In fairness, the move from 7 to 10 is not that difficult, especially if you use one of the available classic shells that appears very similar to 7 - it is certainly easier (and cheaper) than learning a new OS, perhaps new aps and purchasing a new platform to run it on. And you’ll need to spend close to 2X the cost of a comparable performance Windows machine for a new Mac - not a great solution. Alternately, you can always stay with 7 and use multiple 3rd party aps for virus and bot protection. BTW, I too use XP on some special purpose machines for specific tasks, but I would not choose it for general use.

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Sep 26, 2019 21:20:34   #
dick ranez
 
I replaced every pc in my small design shop several years before I shut it down. It cost a little more but network problems disappeared, down times were reduced, people were happier and we fired the it guy.

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Sep 26, 2019 21:25:11   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
dick ranez wrote:
I replaced every pc in my small design shop several years before I shut it down. It cost a little more but network problems disappeared, down times were reduced, people were happier and we fired the it guy.


Maybe you should have fired the IT guy first

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Sep 26, 2019 21:38:18   #
srt101fan
 
TriX wrote:
In fairness, the move from 7 to 10 is not that difficult, especially if you use one of the available classic shells that appears very similar to 7 - it is certainly easier (and cheaper) than learning a new OS, perhaps new aps and purchasing a new platform to run it on. And you’ll need to spend close to 2X the cost of a comparable performance Windows machine for a new Mac - not a great solution. Alternately, you can always stay with 7 and use multiple 3rd party aps for virus and bot protection. BTW, I too use XP on some special purpose machines for specific tasks, but I would not choose it for general use.
In fairness, the move from 7 to 10 is not that dif... (show quote)


I still have, and occasionally use, an old Gateway laptop with Windows 98 SE..... Great program!

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Sep 26, 2019 23:51:34   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
dick ranez wrote:
Don't forget it is as easy to transition to Mac OS as it is to windows 10. XP support has been gone for several years, but it still works every day to drive special equipment that need it to live.


That's grossly inaccurate. Windows 10 is almost exactly like Windows 7 except its faster, almost never crashes and has many features not available in Windows 7. There is nothing wrong with moving to a Mac, but its a completely different paradigm, and much, if not most of the Windows software already purchased did not come with Mac friendly versions which will likely require spending additional money to acquire them. Additionally, I have at least a half dozen applications for which no Mac version exists. Macs are also more expensive than Windows machines with similar processing power. If a move from a Windows to a Mac environment is being planned, there are a lot of factors to be considered. Going from Windows 7 to Windows 10 is a much much simpler and straightforward migration.

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Sep 27, 2019 06:24:32   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
I still prefer the Windows 7. Windows 10 assumes it knows what you want. Still hard for me to find files and folders on Windows 10.

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Sep 27, 2019 06:41:05   #
HamB
 
TurboTax announced they will not support Win7 for the 2019 tax year software.

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Sep 27, 2019 06:51:29   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Actually that is far from the first TRS 80 computer if it ran DOS. My first PC was a Win 3.11 / DOS 6.21 Gateway 2000. I'm old not ancient!

I know it wasn't RS [first[/i] computer, it was my first computer.

ACTUALLY:
DOS is not restricted to Microsoft!!!

DOS is Disk Operating System, a GENERAL TERM.
It ran Radio Shack DOS (RS-DOS), That's why Microsoft is referred to as MS-DOS.

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