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D800- Shutter Causing Blur
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Aug 31, 2012 11:43:27   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
According to the D800 Technical Manual, because of the high resolution of the D800, the shutter itself can cause photos to blur. This helps explain why some of my photos have not been as sharp as I thought they would be. Apparently my technique must improve and adapt to this camera. Any advice?

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Aug 31, 2012 11:51:15   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
SteveR wrote:
According to the D800 Technical Manual, because of the high resolution of the D800, the shutter itself can cause photos to blur. This helps explain why some of my photos have not been as sharp as I thought they would be. Apparently my technique must improve and adapt to this camera. Any advice?


Well, the obvious first step would be to use a tripod in every case in which that is practical. Other than that, use the fastest shutter you can for the situation and if you have ever fired a pistol or rifle, the same technique works here - squeeeeze the shutter button and do it between heartbeats!

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Aug 31, 2012 14:20:00   #
NoSocks Loc: quonochontaug, rhode island
 
you might have just talked me out of a D800.

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Aug 31, 2012 14:28:40   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
quonnie wrote:
you might have just talked me out of a D800.


I am waiting for a computer upgrade before getting the 800 due to file size, but yes, the D800 will show every flaw in shooting technique and cheap lenses. Whether that matters is dependent upon how critical you are. For now, my D3/D7000 combination does all I need.

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Aug 31, 2012 16:14:52   #
FilmFanatic Loc: Waikato, New Zealand
 
SteveR wrote:
According to the D800 Technical Manual, because of the high resolution of the D800, the shutter itself can cause photos to blur. This helps explain why some of my photos have not been as sharp as I thought they would be. Apparently my technique must improve and adapt to this camera. Any advice?


Shutter or mirror? The shutter can't, surely. The mirror can, on the other hand, but you will only see that on moderately long exposures, i.e. 1/30th to a couple of seconds. Or so I am led to believe from reading about other cameras with mirror lockup and the need for it

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Aug 31, 2012 16:35:15   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
Its the censor....remember it has twice the censor power as the D7000....D5100...and so on. Any operator defect....focus...movement...shutter....shows up....even on a tripod if the shutter button is pressed to hard...its that sensitive. Its a very difficult camera to shoot hand held at slower speeds.

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Aug 31, 2012 16:38:34   #
FilmFanatic Loc: Waikato, New Zealand
 
Ok so I had a look at that technical manual. Nowhere does it say anything about the shutter causing blur. It does say the mirror can cause it, which is what I said.

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Aug 31, 2012 16:55:29   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
I should of said shutter speed...If your slightly to slow...you will see it.

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Aug 31, 2012 16:57:09   #
DavidT Loc: Maryland
 
SteveR wrote:
...the shutter itself can cause photos to blur...Any advice?

I was experimenting with my Canon 5D MkIII the other day trying to see how much vibration (and resulting blur) is caused by the shutter and/or mirror flop. I attached a laser pointer to a telephoto lens on the camera, and the camera was mounted on a sturdy tripod. I aimed the laser pointer on the wall on the other side of the room. Using a remote shutter release, I could see closely how much the red dot moved when the shutter was triggered.

What I found was that the shutter release/mirror flop caused slight vibrations that could result in some blur to the image. But, when I used the mirror lock-up, there was no vibration from either the mirror or shutter during the exposure.

So, based on this, I'm not sure if your blur is being caused by the shutter or mirror flop. But, it gave me ample reason to always use a tripod, remote shutter release (wired or wireless), and mirror lock-up for close-up photography.

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Aug 31, 2012 17:03:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
CaptainC wrote:
... the D800 will show every flaw in shooting technique and cheap lenses.

Just the excuse I needed! D7000 forever! :thumbup:

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Aug 31, 2012 17:17:25   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
So the censor has over powered the mechanical parts of a SLR?...hmmmmmm

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Aug 31, 2012 17:23:19   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Bret wrote:
Its the censor....remember it has twice the censor power as the D7000....D5100...and so on. Any operator defect....focus...movement...shutter....shows up....even on a tripod if the shutter button is pressed to hard...its that sensitive. Its a very difficult camera to shoot hand held at slower speeds.


As I found out. I took a couple of casual shots of my daughter in ambient lighting cranking up the iso somewhat. I was surprised that the photos required 1/6 sec., which, of course resulted in blurred photos. However, even using the flash at 1/60th did not seem to produce much better results. I may have to set the shutter speed higher for flash.
Another option, which I have not tried yet, is to shoot at fewer megapixels.

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Aug 31, 2012 17:38:22   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
quonnie wrote:
you might have just talked me out of a D800.


quonnie....What are you wanting to do with the D800?

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Aug 31, 2012 17:39:47   #
FilmFanatic Loc: Waikato, New Zealand
 
SteveR wrote:
Bret wrote:
Its the censor....remember it has twice the censor power as the D7000....D5100...and so on. Any operator defect....focus...movement...shutter....shows up....even on a tripod if the shutter button is pressed to hard...its that sensitive. Its a very difficult camera to shoot hand held at slower speeds.


As I found out. I took a couple of casual shots of my daughter in ambient lighting cranking up the iso somewhat. I was surprised that the photos required 1/6 sec., which, of course resulted in blurred photos. However, even using the flash at 1/60th did not seem to produce much better results. I may have to set the shutter speed higher for flash.
Another option, which I have not tried yet, is to shoot at fewer megapixels.
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Your problem may be too slow a shutter for flash if it is slow enough to be affected by your background exposure

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Aug 31, 2012 18:08:23   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
What iso setting SteveR?

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