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Sep 2, 2019 10:25:25   #
aphelps Loc: Central Ohio
 
I use my tripods for holding umbrella flashes as well as cameras with heavy lenses. Often, the tripod becomes unstable because of the off-center loading. Simply shifting the center of gravity back to the tripod's vertical center dramatically improves stability and reduces the risk of a tip-over. See the photos for the device I made. Simple, cheap, effective. The heavier object (speedlight and mounting) is closer to the tripod center and offsets the umbrella which is farther away, cancelling the tipping moments.


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Sep 2, 2019 10:36:55   #
Vietnam Vet
 
You can also put the weight of your umbrella over one of the legs of the tripod to stabilize it

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Sep 2, 2019 14:25:20   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
aphelps wrote:
I use my tripods for holding umbrella flashes as well as cameras with heavy lenses. Often, the tripod becomes unstable because of the off-center loading. Simply shifting the center of gravity back to the tripod's vertical center dramatically improves stability and reduces the risk of a tip-over. See the photos for the device I made. Simple, cheap, effective. The heavier object (Speedlight and mounting) is closer to the tripod center and offsets the umbrella which is farther away, canceling the tipping moments.
I use my tripods for holding umbrella flashes as w... (show quote)


Looks like it was a fun project. How many prototypes before you arrived at the final product?

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Sep 2, 2019 17:32:40   #
aphelps Loc: Central Ohio
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Looks like it was a fun project. How many prototypes before you arrived at the final product?


I made the first few out of 1/4" plywood to get the offset correct. The ply was too flexible so I made the final out of maple..very ridgid. The 1/4 versions make great speedlight stands. Much more stable than the little plastic ones that come with speedlights. The tripod version uses a 3/8-16 blind nut for the tripod screw and a 3/8 × 1/4 spigot for the umbrella mount. Makes a well balanced set-up.

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Sep 3, 2019 06:20:04   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
You could also get a long block of aluminium, mount a arca swiss plate under it, say 200mm, and shift its position to wherever you want the CG to be. If you used a 100mm clamp underneath you could have quite an adjustment range to allow for different lengths reflector to flash. It would even take little effort to design a counter-weight that would allow even more adjustment.

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Sep 3, 2019 06:20:12   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
aphelps wrote:
I made the first few out of 1/4" plywood to get the offset correct. The ply was too flexible so I made the final out of maple..very ridgid. The 1/4 versions make great speedlight stands. Much more stable than the little plastic ones that come with speedlights. The tripod version uses a 3/8-16 blind nut for the tripod screw and a 3/8 × 1/4 spigot for the umbrella mount. Makes a well balanced set-up.


WTH is a 3/8x1/4 spigot ?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spigot

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Sep 3, 2019 07:03:58   #
tommy2 Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
WTH is a 3/8x1/4 spigot ?


Being a tinkerer I'd like to know too.

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Sep 3, 2019 08:08:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
tommy2 wrote:
Being a tinkerer I'd like to know too.


It sounds like a typo - probably a bolt.

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Sep 3, 2019 08:30:34   #
aphelps Loc: Central Ohio
 
Manglesphoto wrote:


https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=spigot&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=
A spigot is a device with 1/4-20 thread on one end and 3/8-16 threads on the other end. Can me male or female. In this case I used female. The spigot body fits inside the umbrella/speedlight bracket to allow for rotation.

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Sep 3, 2019 08:36:34   #
aphelps Loc: Central Ohio
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It sounds like a typo - probably a bolt.


See my response to manglesphoto above.

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Sep 3, 2019 08:37:21   #
aphelps Loc: Central Ohio
 
tommy2 wrote:
Being a tinkerer I'd like to know too.


See manglesphoto above.

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Sep 3, 2019 18:14:27   #
dgilliam
 
Thanks. Never knew the name "spigot" applied to these until this discussion.

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Sep 3, 2019 19:50:16   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
aphelps wrote:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=spigot&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=
A spigot is a device with 1/4-20 thread on one end and 3/8-16 threads on the other end. Can me male or female. In this case I used female. The spigot body fits inside the umbrella/speedlight bracket to allow for rotation.


Thats a stud!!

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Sep 3, 2019 20:41:48   #
FTn
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Thats a stud!!


Agree. Always thought that a spigot is the outside faucet that you attached a hose to.

- FTn

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Sep 3, 2019 20:46:03   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
It is a misuse of a term usually used to describe something that fluid flows through.
It should more likely be called a stud or even more accurately an adapter.
I would suspect that a younger person has used this term either at the manufacturers premises or at B&H. Or even a mis-translation from a foreign language into English.
It is NOT a spigot !

My favourite way of describing something misused like this is 'a term misused by a 24 year old recent university graduate with little life experience'.

This is NOT a spigot. Continual misuse of this term also reflects badly on those doing so. DO NOT take as gospel everything you read because in this day and age it has most likely been corrupted by Trump as misinformation.

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