Fuji users (Page 2): You can surely find the silliest thing to argue about. It's DxO's problem if they can't deal with anything other than a Bayer array. Maybe their developers don't...

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Ysarex wrote:

That's your word. You used the word "handle" when you made this incorrect statement: "All modern raw converters seem to handle it with ease." ...

You can surely find the silliest thing to argue about.

Ysarex wrote:

DXO won't touch it.

It's DxO's problem if they can't deal with anything other than a Bayer array. Maybe their developers don't understand the demosaicing process.

Picture Window Pro can deal with it and that was done by a single individual. I guess you are saying that he is smarter than all of the DxO developers combined.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

selmslie wrote:

It's DxO's problem if they can't deal with anything other than a Bayer array. Maybe their developers don't understand the demosaicing process.

Picture Window Pro can deal with it and that was done by a single individual. I guess you are saying that he is smarter than all of the DxO developers combined.

All I'm saying is that what you said is wrong.

Joe

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Ysarex wrote:

All I'm saying is that what you said is wrong.

Joe

And some of what you have said has been wrong. So what?

I have tried two different versions of Silkypix that would not open a Fuji raw file. But I can get one through Fuji that will. And Silkypix would be happy to sell me a version for Fuji and a separate version for Panasonic but why would I want something that can't handle all of my cameras?

Even LightZone (free) could open a Fuji, Sony, Nikon and Panasonic raw file. But I uninstalled it because I did not like the user interface. I uninstalled Corel for the same reason even though I paid for it.

I'm not too wild about the interface for Picture Window Pro (free now) but I keep it because it's useful for large B&W images which can be scanned as 16-bit monochrome rather than having to be 48-bit.

berchman Loc: South Central PA

al13 wrote:

I am looking at leaving LR/PS and exploring moving to ON1 or Capture One. I would appreciate Fuji users experience with either of theses programs. The cost of Adobe is not my reason for wishing to move.
Thanks

My one experience with Capture One was on a weekend's light painting course where it was used for tethering. It struck me as difficult to learn, more difficult than Lightroom.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

berchman wrote:

My one experience with Capture One was on a weekend's light painting course where it was used for tethering. It struck me as difficult to learn, more difficult than Lightroom.

Anything will seem difficult to learn at first, even Lightroom.

I was happy to replace Lightroom with Capture One Pro and get away from having to use their catalog.

If you buy it and upgrade only every two years it will cost only about $5/month.

al13

I switched from Nikon to Fuji for several reasons beautiful color out of the camera being one. I didn’t realize, my bad, there was a difference in X-Trans and Bayer until I processed my pictures in LR/PS. And, not all Fiji cameras have the X-Trans sensors. I waited for Adobe to make adjustments which they did but with little results. The two programs I am considering handle X-Trans the way Fuji intended. That’s why my original question to Fuji users with X-Trans cameras. There is a marked difference when comparing how Adobe handles these photos versus ON1 and Capture One. As I originally stated, this is not about costs or upset at Adobe but about the best program for my camera. Thanks to all for their comments.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

selmslie wrote:

And some of what you have said has been wrong. So what?

No, just you.

selmslie wrote:

I have tried two different versions of Silkypix that would not open a Fuji raw file. But I can get one through Fuji that will. And Silkypix would be happy to sell me a version for Fuji and a separate version for Panasonic but why would I want something that can't handle all of my cameras?

SilkyPix Developer Studio and Developer Studio Pro have always supported Fuji cameras. You either tried an old version with a newer camera or you tried a free version of Developer Studio that was supplied with a camera and that version was camera specific. Previously SilkyPix was a common choice as a free raw converter bundled with a camera. Those versions were camera brand specific. Fuji, Samsung and Panasonic all supplied a free version of Developer Studio with their cameras. The full version with multiple camera support was available to those customers as a discounted upgrade and otherwise available for purchase to anyone.

In response to Phase One's new initiative to supply discounted single camera versions of C1 SilkyPix has done the same with Developer Studio Pro. The all camera version remains available for sale and is one of the better choices for Fuji cameras.

Joe

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Ysarex wrote:

No, just you.

SilkyPix Developer Studio and Developer Studio Pro have always supported Fuji cameras.

You think you are infallible? It may come as news to you but you are not. You have made many misstatements on UHH but I have no desire go back and catalog them.

It was my SilkyPix Develper Studio 4.4 that would not open a Fuji raw file. But it would not open a Sony or Nikon raw file either. So I upgraded it to version 8 and it still would not open anything but a JPEG. Then I realized that it was a special version I installed for my wife's Panasonic Lumix RW2 files.

So "SilkyPix Developer Studio" is too broad. The free versions do not do what the paid for versions will.

Since I only looked at it out of curiosity and because I have no need to process my wife's 12-bit raw snapshots, I uninstalled it.

However, I downloaded the free version for Fuji and I will play with it later. It won't open anyone else's raw files either.

But since Capture One and Picture Window Pro have no such constraints, I'll stick with them.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

selmslie wrote:

You think you are infallible? It may come as news to you but you are not. You have made many misstatements on UHH but I have no desire go back and catalog them.

I've made mistakes all my life -- I'm just talking about this thread.

selmslie wrote:

It was my SilkyPix Develper Studio 4.4 that would ... (show quote)

Phase One also provides free (and paid/upgrade) camera specific versions of C1 and they have exactly the same constraints as the camera specific versions of SilkyPix.

Joe

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Ysarex wrote:

Phase One also provides free (and paid/upgrade) camera specific versions of C1 and they have exactly the same constraints as the camera specific versions of SilkyPix.

Joe

That’s how I started using Capture One, with the free version for Sony. I already mentioned that earlier on this thread.

al13

selmslie wrote:

That’s how I started using Capture One, with the free version for Sony. I already mentioned that earlier on this thread.

Did you purchase the Sony specific software? As a Fuji user, I wondered if I should purchase the Fuji specific or would the generic C1 work for Fuji? I guess I can ask C1.

taitman

I do find ACDSee quite easy to use, a good organizer, and an easy to look at interface. I can use the on-board processing tools or open another editor like PhotoShop directly from the ACDSee app Plus the price is good, customer service good, and they quite often offer great upgrade pricing.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

al13 wrote:

Did you purchase the Sony specific software? As a Fuji user, I wondered if I should purchase the Fuji specific or would the generic C1 work for Fuji? I guess I can ask C1.

Both of them offer free Fuji specific software.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

al13 wrote:

Did you purchase the Sony specific software? As a Fuji user, I wondered if I should purchase the Fuji specific or would the generic C1 work for Fuji? I guess I can ask C1.

Their are no extra or Fuji unique features in the Fuji specific version -- you just get a better price. Note that Phase One does not offer an upgrade path from the purchased Fuji/Sony specific version to the full version so if you plan to keep using C1 and may in the future purchase a different camera.....

Joe

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

taitman wrote:

I do find ACDSee quite easy to use, a good organizer, and an easy to look at interface. I can use the on-board processing tools or open another editor like PhotoShop directly from the ACDSee app Plus the price is good, customer service good, and they quite often offer great upgrade pricing.

ACDSee is good software at a very attractive price. It does a fair job with Fuji X-Trans (not on par with the best X-Trans results but not in the group of worst either). The raw Develop module in ACDSee is more feature-limited than C1 and as such much more likely to push you into a need to supplement processing with a second (raster) editor like PS or ACDSee's own.

Joe