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Aug 17, 2019 10:18:58   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
This will be fun, drive all the organization and composition buffs a bit nuts. VADA in a queen's chair, in the lighting studio. I have no idea where the sexy outfits came from, but VADA picked this one out from several.

Two other women (models) were in the dressing room trying on similar naughty lingerie, having fun. VADA wanted to see how it looked on camera so we shot these. The other two came in and the three did selfies and shooting with each others. My gosh! I even did images with different smart phones.

VADA asked if they could take one of the sexy lingerie each. Of course, but you have to wear it under the street clothes that you brought with. Stockings, shoes and then putting on make up. They were going for drinks and flirt with men to get 'free' drinks.

My dumb flip phone went off, VADA's sister wanted an outfit, she was outside the front door of the studio. Her best friend for trouble making was with her. I let them in and after getting out sexy fun naughty things they did selfies and togeather images and sent them to the other girls and VADA. In the end VADA's sister ended up back in the dressing room.

VADA's sister is conservative on the outside and a hell raising wild child just below the surface. She loves to go to strip clubs. So I got her into a pair of thigh high black Patten leather 3inch heeled platform boots. A long black coat, a Brazilin T Back and shiny pasties. She was ready to go to the strip club and strip club legal!

I gave her friend a Brazilin T back and a sexy bra. They took a wad of Brazilian T backs for the others and headed for the bar to hook up, of course selfies and other images.

VADA called, her sister had rolled into the bar where the girls were getting free drinks from some men and another woman. The bar was rocken and the girls passed around the T backs, then put on the T backs. They announced that they were moving the party to the Wild Zebra and anyone could come watch, drink and hoot at the strippers!


Another call from VADA, she was swinging by, did I want to go to the Wild Zebra, but first she had this woman with that needed to get her freak on! In came VADA, she has the studio key. VADA and the woman and her friend. I dug out three sets of pasties and at one magical point three (VADA again, of course) nude but for pasties and trying on outfits and getting more and more naughty. The one VADA had in tow that she 'liked' was having to re-do her lip stick, she and VADA took several lip sticks with. Except VADA the other two had pasties on and bras as well.

A week later VADA returned with a box filled with different shoes, boots and piles of pasties! The stories were crazy. Like the girl VADA was after started doing a strip for VADA, liked the stripper that was doing a lap dance for some guy. Then the stripper and the woman did a strip/lap dance for VADA, who joined in doing a three way strip/lap dance with each other.

Girls! What ever can you do with these wild crazy girls! So much fun, such great stories!

By the way, for the techno freaks, that light behind VADA, is a 1930's Photogenic tungsten 1,000K light, the fore runner of what modern photographer's call a beauty dish. You can see them in use on a film set at night in the last Indian Jones film featuring crystal skulls. There are 1K and 5K units in use. You might enjoy looking at the night scene at the beginning of the film as the lighting is super excellent! Me, I got two of these lights a guy gave me years ago! I used a dull silver finished reflector to bounce the light back in to make the image.

1K, 1930's Photogenic Light in use.
1K, 1930's Photogenic Light in use....
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Aug 17, 2019 10:32:14   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
I know, everyone wants to know what VADA's sister the Veterinarian looks like. Ok, here she is... She visited after the fun at the strip club and tried on different outfits and modeled in the garden.


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Aug 17, 2019 11:59:56   #
toxdoc42
 
Timmers wrote:
I know, everyone wants to know what VADA's sister the Veterinarian looks like. Ok, here she is... She visited after the fun at the strip club and tried on different outfits and modeled in the garden.


So, did you get her vet sister to pose more?

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Aug 17, 2019 12:29:25   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
toxdoc42 wrote:
So, did you get her vet sister to pose more?


Yes, of course, there is that photo of her in the red dress.

Oh, you mean like in the thick soled patent leather thigh high boots?

Ok, I'm being a bit silly. After the shoot I gave her the boots, she loves these and it is really funny how women won't buy something like the thigh high boots but man do they come alive wearing them!

Yes the gun is real but just a prop. Of course VADA has a 38, a conceal license but doesn't go in for guns, but they both know how to use them.

I asked her if she ever went hunting and she said no. But smiled and said her guy friends always ask. They love it after the dears are up on the butcher rack as she can dress a deer faster and better than the best of them. If they ask she explains how to do what she is doing and why. But she tells them that she gets all she needs working at the Vet Hospital. And of course the dogs get excellent attention and they get verbal abuse from her when she doesn't like the way they care for their dogs, but she usually sleeps with the dogs in the cabin as they are warm after she has them all bathed after a long day hunting! LOL!!!


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Aug 17, 2019 20:35:58   #
toxdoc42
 
Timmers wrote:
Yes, of course, there is that photo of her in the red dress.

Oh, you mean like in the thick soled patent leather thigh high boots?

Ok, I'm being a bit silly. After the shoot I gave her the boots, she loves these and it is really funny how women won't buy something like the thigh high boots but man do they come alive wearing them!

Yes the gun is real but just a prop. Of course VADA has a 38, a conceal license but doesn't go in for guns, but they both know how to use them.

I asked her if she ever went hunting and she said no. But smiled and said her guy friends always ask. They love it after the dears are up on the butcher rack as she can dress a deer faster and better than the best of them. If they ask she explains how to do what she is doing and why. But she tells them that she gets all she needs working at the Vet Hospital. And of course the dogs get excellent attention and they get verbal abuse from her when she doesn't like the way they care for their dogs, but she usually sleeps with the dogs in the cabin as they are warm after she has them all bathed after a long day hunting! LOL!!!
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Was it her first time posing nude? Did she agree quickly or did she take convincing? The shot looks like a quick grab not a careful set up

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Aug 17, 2019 21:41:26   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
toxdoc42 wrote:
Was it her first time posing nude? Did she agree quickly or did she take convincing? The shot looks like a quick grab not a careful set up


First session.

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Aug 18, 2019 02:31:23   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
VADA looks a lot better (healthier, sexier) now that she’s dropped a few pounds. Her face, legs (especially) and midriff look so much better! Her sister the vet, should have a spa day and get a complete Brazilian wax and then let her mojo go! She’s awesome in her own right. She’s a natural, could be a very sexy regular model on this site.

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Aug 18, 2019 07:47:51   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Timmers wrote:
Yes, of course, there is that photo of her in the red dress.

Oh, you mean like in the thick soled patent leather thigh high boots?

Ok, I'm being a bit silly. After the shoot I gave her the boots, she loves these and it is really funny how women won't buy something like the thigh high boots but man do they come alive wearing them!

Yes the gun is real but just a prop. Of course VADA has a 38, a conceal license but doesn't go in for guns, but they both know how to use them.

I asked her if she ever went hunting and she said no. But smiled and said her guy friends always ask. They love it after the dears are up on the butcher rack as she can dress a deer faster and better than the best of them. If they ask she explains how to do what she is doing and why. But she tells them that she gets all she needs working at the Vet Hospital. And of course the dogs get excellent attention and they get verbal abuse from her when she doesn't like the way they care for their dogs, but she usually sleeps with the dogs in the cabin as they are warm after she has them all bathed after a long day hunting! LOL!!!
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Exposure? Pretty dark.

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Aug 18, 2019 09:35:55   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
Exposure? Pretty dark.


Not to act the fool or question your statement, yet if you will take a moment this is a jpeg, there is detail in the highlights so the exposure is correct.

I subscribe to the position that with digital capture that the highlight is the basses of exposure. It runs contrary to the old analogue concept in film based technology of "expose for the shadow and develop for the highlights". This is the correct approach to film based technology. In digital technology, the 'capture' portion of the action is to render the highlights with proper exposure.

In "post" we alter the range of the image by anchoring the 'curve' (appears as a straight line going from top right to lower left corners) and then changing the toe (shadows) and the straight line position of the digital 'curve' in to a visible characteristic curve that becomes a controlled 'S' curve from the standard digital straight line form that is from the one corner of the display to the bottom end of the display.

Most images need their information structured into the classical 'S' shape curve know as H&D (Hurter and Driffield) curve. This organizes the information in 'Post' to give the pleasing tonality that is desired in a finished image.

This photograph has not been so crafted, it is here for didactic response to a poster desire to 'see' what VADA's sister looked like.

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Aug 18, 2019 10:21:30   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Timmers wrote:
Not to act the fool or question your statement, yet if you will take a moment this is a jpeg, there is detail in the highlights so the exposure is correct.

If the highlights are the bright spots on the boots, then I suggest you can blow those out with no loss of quality, but raising the exposure of the rest of the image would make it much better and help us "see" Vada's sister "in a better light."

There you go, Timmers, a technical critique... just what you should expect.

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Aug 18, 2019 10:56:18   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
JohnFrim wrote:
If the highlights are the bright spots on the boots, then I suggest you can blow those out with no loss of quality, but raising the exposure of the rest of the image would make it much better and help us "see" Vada's sister "in a better light."

There you go, Timmers, a technical critique... just what you should expect.


Ok Mr. Frim, I will be staying out of future discussions with you, as you do not appear to have basic skills for digital photography. To others, as to technical processes, this person does not know what he is talking about. So please avoid his lack of basic photographic skills.

The boots have what are called spectral highlights. If you go look at the chrome on a vehicle you will see the various range of what are called spectral highlights. They are quite high and most of the time photographers ignore this upper range of highlight information as it is not the bases of highlight exposure.

My reference to highlights in this image is on the side of the woman's face, just around the location of the temple. This is the highlight that we will need to maintain detail.

Yes it is perspiration, that moist surface wetness that tells you that it is humid and even mostly devoid of clothing the woman is quite warm. Why in particular? That is open to levels of interpretation. Now my Grand Mother Maria Summa was always insisting that women do not sweat, they glowed; equally they do not dirty their clothes, they soil them, so you have soiled linen and the dog's bed is dirty.

So our subject is glowing! But for what ever reason, our concern with exposure is to register that surface moisture in our capture. This is an out of camera jpeg that has not been post processed. It may appear that the exposure is a bit dense for this highlight, but remember the old saw, you can always ADD contrast, but it is vary difficult to reduce contrast in an image, and this is done in post processing. So here we have a slightly 'heavy' density in that upper highlight. This is intentional, it is part of the strategy of the proper exposure. When I saw that the lighting was flat and I needed to capture the moment I managed the highlight of moist skin so that in post I had options to control the amount of shine (Grand Mother's GLOW) that would be on the surface of the subjects skin.

So, you can see, as before, that the image was captured correctly so that, in post, there are options to represent sensation, the feel in the final image.

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Aug 18, 2019 11:31:02   #
toxdoc42
 
No reason to argue, everyone is entitled to his/her appreciation of a given image. Thus the concept of "correct exposure," is probably a fallacy.

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Aug 18, 2019 12:44:55   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
toxdoc42 wrote:
No reason to argue, everyone is entitled to his/her appreciation of a given image. Thus the concept of "correct exposure," is probably a fallacy.


Where in it is true that the idea of 'correct exposure' may limited by individual conditions, as well as be limited to the subjective aspects of an individual event, that range is expected to fit the parameters of a target model. In the target range of the given image, capture was based on the range of information going from low density to the upper limits of the representation of the sheen of bodily perspiration of the subject. The spectral high lights were not of consideration during the planned image as they fall outside the useful range of the target.

Why don't you run that idea past the club of Hurter-Driffield, Nature as a Journal seems to be aware of this concept as one of importance.

By the by, the work of what was the foundation of a lot of statistical analysis. This is also under consideration when an educational class is told that the test given was graded on a curve, the statement refers to the H&D curve of plotting analysis.

https://www.nature.com/articles/151210a0

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