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Aug 15, 2019 10:26:57   #
aam421
 
This subject has been discussed several times over the years and I have reviewed and tried to follow all the advice but I am still not doing something right. I don't own an expensive camera; I have Nikon S1 that takes good photos. Last night I tried taking some photos of the Perseid showers even with a bright full moon. I had the ISO at 6400 and F5, shutter speed set to S which might be 'bulb'. All I got was black sky and one little illuminated dot.

What am I doing wrong. I'm too embarrassed to attach a photo with a dot.

I sure enjoy the exchange of opinions from the members.

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Aug 15, 2019 10:35:12   #
fergmark Loc: norwalk connecticut
 
The only way anyone can really help you is to attach a photo with the download so that they can look at the camera data. Without, there will only be a lot of guessing. There is no shame in learning.

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Aug 15, 2019 10:38:53   #
aschweik Loc: NE Ohio
 
I am also confused about night sky photography so you aren't the only one. We all have to learn somehow and posting helps, even if you're embarrassed by it. Sometime you can post your before and after shots and show us how much you've learned. I'll keep watch on the answers you get so I can learn, too. Thanks for posting!

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Aug 15, 2019 10:53:38   #
uhaas2009
 
The moon falls under the sunny rule. The “showers” I believe falls under the 500er rule. The milky-way can be photographed with the 500er rule......

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Aug 15, 2019 11:25:40   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Are you sure that the "S" refers to shutter speed? If it refers to shutter release mode it may refer to "single" as opposed to continuous shutter release. Posting a downloadable example (check the "Store original" box) will help determine if the exposure settings were OK.

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Aug 15, 2019 11:54:44   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
You need to tell us what lens you used. Most star photos are shot with F-2.8 or faster. Shutter speeds from 10sec or longer . ISO of 2000 or higher. On most cameras, selecting "S" only switches you to shutter priority. That means that you still have to select the shutter speed via a dial or buttons. Don't forget to prefocus in manual focus to infinity and tape it in place. Manual focus is not the same setting the camera to manual which forces you to set the ISO, Shutter Speed, and F-stop. Manual focus is set at the lens or through the cameras menu. The exception is if you use a manual lens such as an older film lens or one of the newer "manual" lenses by Samyang and others. In this photo, Andromida is at the 1 o'clock position and a shooting star streak is below it and to the right. In a DSLR you also need to lock the mirror up. This can usualy be done by going into live view if your camera has it. I hope this helps. Good luck

ISO 20000, 30sec, Samyang 14mm, f-2.8 Sony a7iii
ISO 20000, 30sec, Samyang 14mm, f-2.8 Sony a7iii...

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Aug 15, 2019 14:43:54   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
aam421 wrote:
This subject has been discussed several times over the years and I have reviewed and tried to follow all the advice but I am still not doing something right. I don't own an expensive camera; I have Nikon S1 that takes good photos. Last night I tried taking some photos of the Perseid showers even with a bright full moon. I had the ISO at 6400 and F5, shutter speed set to S which might be 'bulb'. All I got was black sky and one little illuminated dot.

What am I doing wrong. I'm too embarrassed to attach a photo with a dot.

I sure enjoy the exchange of opinions from the members.
This subject has been discussed several times over... (show quote)


Are you aware there is an Astrological Photography forum section on UHH? https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-109-1.html

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Aug 16, 2019 06:49:11   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Some tips -
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/photography-video-capture/cameras/how-to-see-the-perseid-meteor-shower-this-week-1301477
http://www.popphoto.com/how-to/2010/08/how-to-photographing-perseid-meteor-shower
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-blogs/capturing-the-perseids-how-to-photograph-a-meteor-shower/
https://petapixel.com/2014/05/22/10-tips-photographing-meteor-showers/

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Aug 16, 2019 09:24:54   #
aam421
 
The lens I was using is made for my camera. 1NIKKOR 30-110. As you can see the moon picture is also just another illuminated dot.

This is really embarrassing! Unfortunately I don't see any settings information. These are JPG instead of RAW. I had the shutter speed all the way up to +3.0, the IOS up to 6400 and F5.





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Aug 16, 2019 10:31:52   #
jhkfly
 
The bottom pic is way overexposed! +3.0 is not shutter speed, it's an increase in the exposure value already set in the camera.

The top pic, I presume, is one you took with the zoom at 30mm wide angle; that might explain why the moon appears as a dot.

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Aug 16, 2019 11:08:36   #
tommyII Loc: Northern Illinois
 
ORpilot wrote:
You need to tell us what lens you used. Most star photos are shot with F-2.8 or faster. Shutter speeds from 10sec or longer . ISO of 2000 or higher. On most cameras, selecting "S" only switches you to shutter priority. That means that you still have to select the shutter speed via a dial or buttons. Don't forget to prefocus in manual focus to infinity and tape it in place. Manual focus is not the same setting the camera to manual which forces you to set the ISO, Shutter Speed, and F-stop. Manual focus is set at the lens or through the cameras menu. The exception is if you use a manual lens such as an older film lens or one of the newer "manual" lenses by Samyang and others. In this photo, Andromida is at the 1 o'clock position and a shooting star streak is below it and to the right. In a DSLR you also need to lock the mirror up. This can usualy be done by going into live view if your camera has it. I hope this helps. Good luck
You need to tell us what lens you used. Most star ... (show quote)


Nice picture.

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Aug 16, 2019 11:26:41   #
ralfstinson Loc: SF Bay Area
 
Celestial Photography is special photography, and the automated features on your camera will probably not work. You should make all the camera settings as manual as possible (focus, ISO, speed, F/stop, etc). While the moon is a special case for celestial photography as it is directly illuminated by the sun, manual focus on infinity and put ISO/F-stop/speed at a setting for a normal picture on a bright sunny day. Then go from there. You won't get stars and any foreground item will be black unless you use a flash.

For stars, aurora and meteors, you will be doing low light photography and avoid the moon! Learn to use your camera in manual. Learn to use the camera in the dark and use a red head lamp. Keep your night vision good.

For meteors, I have been successful with wide angle lens, 25 sec, ISO 4000 and f/2.8. Then I tell my camera to take a picture every 30 second for the next 600 pictures and I go to sleep. For star trails, I have used 1300 seconds, ISO 200 and F/6.3. For stars w/out trails, there are rules to go with, so use a fast lens, short time (depending on lens focal lengthen), fast F/stop and push up the ISO so the speed will be fast enough to 'stop' the stars and get a good exposure.

If possible, set the camera monitor on low light level to keep your night vision. (don't forget to reset it for daytime)

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Aug 16, 2019 11:45:01   #
aam421
 
OK, many thanks for your responses. I do have a manual and have studied it several times but I need to do some manual rewriting as I discover where some of these features are located in the camera. I like the red light use and I do have a head lamp with a red light. I also like the daylight exposure suggestion.

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Aug 16, 2019 12:16:21   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
aam421 wrote:
This subject has been discussed several times over the years and I have reviewed and tried to follow all the advice but I am still not doing something right. I don't own an expensive camera; I have Nikon S1 that takes good photos. Last night I tried taking some photos of the Perseid showers even with a bright full moon. I had the ISO at 6400 and F5, shutter speed set to S which might be 'bulb'. All I got was black sky and one little illuminated dot.

What am I doing wrong. I'm too embarrassed to attach a photo with a dot.

I sure enjoy the exchange of opinions from the members.
This subject has been discussed several times over... (show quote)


A great web site for this is at www.photopills.com. They have a ton of info.

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Aug 16, 2019 12:16:54   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
aschweik wrote:
I am also confused about night sky photography so you aren't the only one. We all have to learn somehow and posting helps, even if you're embarrassed by it. Sometime you can post your before and after shots and show us how much you've learned. I'll keep watch on the answers you get so I can learn, too. Thanks for posting!


A great web site for this is at www.photopills.com. They have a ton of info.

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