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Aug 9, 2019 14:48:29   #
n4jee Loc: New Bern, NC
 
When my wife and I were shooting weddings, we had a similar clause in our contract. I assured the bride and groom that I would only enforce it if someone consistently interfered with my doing my job. I would then ask the bride to tell the offender to put away his/her camera or I would walk off the job. Thus I was the bad guy and the bride could still be friends with the individual.

What not to do:
1. Don't copy the professional posed shots to give to the bride so she doesn't have to purchase that shot from the photographer. You are robbing him/her of their livelihood.

2. Don't get in his/her way.

3. Don't talk cameras with him/her. Your toy is his/her tool.

If you want to take a photo of a posed shot, back off and include the photographer taking the picture. It becomes a nice memento for the bride showing the story behind the photo in her album.

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Aug 9, 2019 14:51:49   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
n4jee wrote:
If you want to take a photo of a posed shot, back off and include the photographer taking the picture. It becomes a nice memento for the bride showing the story behind the photo in her album.
and it is much more interesting. Until her death, my Mother had a photo of our younger daughter hanging on her refrigerator - and I have a photo - labeled "refrigerator art" of that photo being taken.

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Aug 9, 2019 15:19:52   #
Michael1079 Loc: Indiana
 
lyndacast wrote:
I do not want to interfere with professional photographers, but can’t resist bringing a camera...


Oh, wow...when I first read the OP's post, I thought to myself, "This is going to bring out the *UGLY* in Ugly Hedgehog."

Three things to never discuss in this forum: Religion, Politics, and Wedding Photography.

Peace, everyone...




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Aug 9, 2019 15:53:37   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
Just a few weeks ago someone here linked to an article about a woman leaning out of the pew, into the aisle, photographing the bride and groom recessing. She ruined the professional photographer's carefully planned shot.

As a retired pastor, it bothered me to no end that people at weddings took flash photos during the service. The flash was too small and too weak to capture the moment. But they were annoying and distracting. Then there was the time some clown (not the professional photographer) barged between the bride and groom, asked me to move and tried to shoot over my shoulder. At an appropriate break in the ceremony I turned to him and quietly told him to get out of my chancel and go back to his seat. The bride and groom later apologized to me that it happened. I told them that they had nothing to apologize for because they weren't to blame for the idiot's behavior.

As someone who's been there, I understand the professional photographer's clause in the contract. As an aside, in 30 years I never had a problem with professional photographers. They respected the fact that they were photographing a worship service AND I "staged" any important photos they wanted (the exchange of the rings, the blessing of the marriage) after the worship service and they were able to get those photos up close and from the best angles.

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Aug 9, 2019 16:10:16   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
My best suggestion is to follow the policy of the contract. Go to the wedding and enjoy yourself.
--Bob
lyndacast wrote:
My nephew is getting married next weekend. They have hired a professional photographer whose contract is pretty explicit about not allowing other photographers to shoot....which I understand completely and respect!

That being said, I plan to bring a camera to take more candid, unposed and random photos. I do not want to interfere with professional photographers, but can’t resist bringing a camera...

What suggestions do you have for me to stay out of their way, but still get some great shots to share with family/friends?
My nephew is getting married next weekend. They h... (show quote)

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Aug 9, 2019 16:11:50   #
CWGordon
 
Ask. Probably a courteous question/discussion with the PRO will clear up his intent. I cannot believe he will be a **** about it. I’d then talk to those being married and discuss w/them what Pro said. This should put them at ease if you are going to take some pictures and Pro agreed.
I must say, I am always amazed at how so many of our contributors find so many ways to saysomething nasty and condescending when even they are smart enough to figure out nice ways to say pretty much the same thing.

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Aug 9, 2019 17:20:45   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
CWGordon wrote:
Ask. Probably a courteous question/discussion with the PRO will clear up his intent. I cannot believe he will be a **** about it. I’d then talk to those being married and discuss w/them what Pro said. This should put them at ease if you are going to take some pictures and Pro agreed.
I must say, I am always amazed at how so many of our contributors find so many ways to saysomething nasty and condescending when even they are smart enough to figure out nice ways to say pretty much the same thing.
Ask. Probably a courteous question/discussion with... (show quote)


Nastiness is becoming an artform around this site. It's too bad that folks can't offer their opinions in civil manner.

Most of the folks who make ridiculous remarks about wedding photography and professional photography in general, probably know the least about these businesses.

Funny thing is most logical people would never even imagine interfering with any of the other professionals at a wedding. Would the bring their own food to a catered affair or barge into the kitchen and bother the chefs or the servers? Would they bring in a boom box and interrupt the band or the DJ. Would the rearrange the flowers or chime in with commentary during the service. Seems it's open season on photographers. This rant is intended for all the folks that make rude and resentful remarks about professional photographers. I'm certain most of them would not appreciate anyone interfering with their job!

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Aug 9, 2019 17:31:30   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Nastiness is becoming an artform around this site. It's too bad that folks can't offer their opinions in civil manner...!


Sadly you are right, and it needs to stop. If you wouldn’t say it to a person face-to-face in a calm discussion, maybe it’s time to rethink before you post. Courtesy and good manners never go out of style.

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Aug 9, 2019 17:33:39   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 

--Bob
TriX wrote:
Sadly you are right, and it needs to stop. If you wouldn’t say it to a person face-to-face in a calm discussion, maybe it’s time to rethink before you post. Courtesy and good manners never go out of style.

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Aug 9, 2019 17:45:53   #
Gilkar
 
Phooey on all of you who say "don't bring the camera." Everyone with a phone takes pictures at weddings these days. The pro doesn't want anyone interrupting his work flow or copying his poses and that is legitimate. As a 45 year professional my contract states that anyone who wants to take pictures could do so. My only caveat was that I would wait until all the amateurs were finished before I took my photos. My contract stated that this would increase the time necessary to get the required images and if the bride and groom were OK with that additional time would be billed at my regular rates if necessary. I never had a problem and no one ever had to pay extra. Seems money still rules.

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Aug 9, 2019 17:47:52   #
MW
 
Suggestion: get unambiguous permission from wedding planner first!

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Aug 9, 2019 17:53:53   #
Michael1079 Loc: Indiana
 
TriX wrote:
Sadly you are right, and it needs to stop. If you wouldn’t say it to a person face-to-face in a calm discussion, maybe it’s time to rethink before you post. Courtesy and good manners never go out of style.


Agree...

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Aug 9, 2019 19:02:56   #
pdsilen Loc: Roswell, New Mexico
 
PGHphoto wrote:
What part of "understand and respect" tells you that you can choose to ignore the dis-allowance of "other photographers" ?

If you want the photographer to walk away from the shoot - go ahead and ignore the explicit contract and be prepared to do all the photography for your nephew. I hate how everyone decides these days if the rules apply to them. And then we wonder why the kids think THEY are entitled...


HERE HERE!

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Aug 9, 2019 19:05:13   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
lyndacast wrote:
My nephew is getting married next weekend. They have hired a professional photographer whose contract is pretty explicit about not allowing other photographers to shoot....which I understand completely and respect!

That being said, I plan to bring a camera to take more candid, unposed and random photos. I do not want to interfere with professional photographers, but can’t resist bringing a camera...

What suggestions do you have for me to stay out of their way, but still get some great shots to share with family/friends?
My nephew is getting married next weekend. They h... (show quote)


It's easy. Just don't shoot when you see the pro photographing a person, couple, group or whatever. Shoot when he/she is onto something else. I consider myself a pro when I'm hired to do a wedding. However, I believe it is unrealistic to expect guests at the wedding not to shoot a few of their own.

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Aug 9, 2019 19:10:54   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
DebAnn wrote:
It's easy. Just don't shoot when you see the pro photographing a person, couple, group or whatever. Shoot when he/she is onto something else. I consider myself a pro when I'm hired to do a wedding. However, I believe it is unrealistic to expect guests at the wedding not to shoot a few of their own.

When my cousin was married, she forgot to tell the "pro" that she had a Grandmother - fortunately, our Grandmother knew that I had taken photos of her.

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