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Aug 3, 2019 18:26:05   #
will47 Loc: Indianapolis, IN
 
I have a Canon 6D Mark ll and a 7D Mark ll. If you had your choice which of these cameras would you use with a Tamron 150-600mm G2 lens, or does it make a difference? Mostly what I shoot is birds and other animals with that lens, with a split between handheld and tripod. I also have a Canon 60D that I use on occasion. Thanks..

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Aug 3, 2019 19:03:10   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Depends on the subject and how close I think I can get - but in general, the 7D will be more versatile in this respect.
I would prefer to use the 6D - but only if I can fill the frame ....
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Aug 3, 2019 19:45:21   #
Glenn Reiner Loc: Sacramento CA
 
Interesting question and I’m guess you will not get a definitive answer

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Aug 3, 2019 19:46:25   #
Haydon
 
imagemeister wrote:
Depends on the subject and how close I think I can get - but in general, the 7D will be more versatile in this respect.
I would prefer to use the 6D - but only if I can fill the frame ....
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Here's the OP's best advice.

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Aug 3, 2019 20:01:13   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
I have two long lenses, a 100-400L mk2 (with or without 1.4x III) and a Tamron 150-600 G2.
The G2 is mounted on my tripod with an 80D more or less all the time.
The mk2 is on my 7DII (speed of focus etc) with pistol grip for handheld work.
My full frame 5DIV (speed of focus etc like the 7DII) gets the mk2 (w/wo the 1.4) when I am using my blind or can otherwise get closer to the birds etc.

So, long lens + crop sensor when far away.
Long lens + full frame when you can get close.

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Aug 3, 2019 20:46:38   #
dick ranez
 
I'd use the 7dii for reach, sequence shots and reaction time. 6D if I could get close and the subject's not moving swiftly.

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Aug 3, 2019 22:31:27   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
The 6D’s strong point is low light/high ISO, not AF or FPS. The 7D2 has better AF, much faster FPS and the “crop factor” of 1.6 for longer distance shooting.

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Aug 3, 2019 23:28:33   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Well actually it is more a matter of the photographer. But in general the 7DII is the better camera for birds and action.
But here are 8 images of birds in flight. 4 with a 6D (original not the II) and 4 with a 7DII.

Without looking up the exif can you tell which is which?


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Aug 3, 2019 23:36:37   #
Haydon
 
You most certainly can receive sharp shots with a 6D II but the 7DII is more likely to get the keeper by the higher frame rate and better autofocus accuracy. Submitting a few shots isn't a test to use. Under low light conditions the 6DII will win but as Larry said, in most cases filling the frame is key and the crop sensor is the winner.

Needless to say, the photographer might be the biggest variable with a mountain of experience. Nice shots Robert!

Here's a shot from a 10 year old 1DIV and a 70-300L. Sometimes you just nail the focus when the subject is coming right at you.


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Aug 4, 2019 01:45:40   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Haydon wrote:
You most certainly can receive sharp shots with a 6D II but the 7DII is more likely to get the keeper by the higher frame rate and better autofocus accuracy. Submitting a few shots isn't a test to use. Under low light conditions the 6DII will win but as Larry said, in most cases filling the frame is key and the crop sensor is the winner.

Needless to say, the photographer might be the biggest variable with a mountain of experience. Nice shots Robert!

Here's a shot from a 10 year old 1DIV and a 70-300L. Sometimes you just nail the focus when the subject is coming right at you.
You most certainly can receive sharp shots with a ... (show quote)


Thanks, good shot of the gull.

7DII = #s 1, 2, 3, 7 6D = #s 4, 5, 6, 8

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Aug 4, 2019 07:12:20   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
robertjerl wrote:
Well actually it is more a matter of the photographer. But in general the 7DII is the better camera for birds and action.
But here are 8 images of birds in flight. 4 with a 6D (original not the II) and 4 with a 7DII.

Without looking up the exif can you tell which is which?


Your images were pretty easy to divide into crop and full frame images except for #2, which was pretty clean. On close examination, all of the crop images are noisier and have less fine detail than the full frame pics. I would not use the crop camera in situations where I'd have to push the ISO much beyond 1600, whereas the 6D can clearly go considerably higher. When not pixel peeping, they are all great, except for #8. where the egret show a lot of blur.

When I switched from a D300 to a D700 (both 12mp cameras) I couldn't believe the difference in image quality. I think I used my D300 2 or 3 times more before I sold it a few months after getting the D700. I have shot an entire day with a D500 on a 600mmF4, trading off with a D800 from time to time, and found, without any question, that the images from the D800 were cleaner. But everyone's mileage will vary. I don't always fill the frame with my subjects, and cropping an image with fewer pixels coming from a crop sensor does not result in images that print as well as from a larger sensor camera. The differences are less when viewing images on a 1920x1200 monitor with considerable image scaling.

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Aug 4, 2019 08:24:18   #
TFH
 
The 7D II with the crop sensor will give you greater focal length.

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Aug 4, 2019 08:24:56   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
will47 wrote:
I have a Canon 6D Mark ll and a 7D Mark ll. If you had your choice which of these cameras would you use with a Tamron 150-600mm G2 lens, or does it make a difference? Mostly what I shoot is birds and other animals with that lens, with a split between handheld and tripod. I also have a Canon 60D that I use on occasion. Thanks..


I have both as well as the same lens and tried it.
The AF tracking and frame rate on the 7D Mark II is superior to the 6D Mark II.

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Aug 4, 2019 08:54:09   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
I own and use the Canon 6D Mark ll, so I'm partial to it. As a full frame camera, it mounts most of Canon's lenses. But to answer your question, let me suggest that you rent any gear involved to try it before you settle on what serves you best.
will47 wrote:
I have a Canon 6D Mark ll and a 7D Mark ll. If you had your choice which of these cameras would you use with a Tamron 150-600mm G2 lens, or does it make a difference? Mostly what I shoot is birds and other animals with that lens, with a split between handheld and tripod. I also have a Canon 60D that I use on occasion. Thanks..

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Aug 4, 2019 10:07:00   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
robertjerl wrote:
I have two long lenses, a 100-400L mk2 (with or without 1.4x III) and a Tamron 150-600 G2.
The G2 is mounted on my tripod with an 80D more or less all the time.
The mk2 is on my 7DII (speed of focus etc) with pistol grip for handheld work.
My full frame 5DIV (speed of focus etc like the 7DII) gets the mk2 (w/wo the 1.4) when I am using my blind or can otherwise get closer to the birds etc.

So, long lens + crop sensor when far away.
Long lens + full frame when you can get close.
I have two long lenses, a 100-400L mk2 (with or wi... (show quote)



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