donald4u wrote:
Hey there is a congress woman that says the world is going to end in 10 years. And cut out products from oil. Global warming. So when Chicago in the winter is freezing how come California is so hot?
Office holders putting out hot air explaining how their policies and laws are not the reason the state is going to hell and how more of the same will fix it.
Or maybe just because we are further south and in climate zone that makes for hot dry summers etc!
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
donald4u wrote:
Hey there is a congress woman that says the world is going to end in 10 years. And cut out products from oil. Global warming. So when Chicago in the winter is freezing how come California is so hot?
I hope you were trying to be funny. . . The same reason the rich in the luxury cabins on the Titanic were so happy that their end of the boat wasn't sinking. . . Duh-uh! Local Weather ≠ Climate. But your comment is out of place on a photography thread - so get thee to the Attic at once!
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
baer wrote:
I vote for a D500
It’s superb and sees in the dark
I heard it makes you a latte in the morning too!
Gene51 wrote:
I heard it makes you a latte in the morning too!
It’s the absolute best DX camera ever made.
mp97070 wrote:
We could also buy postcards of things we see, it is a hobby. Tell a ham radio operator that a cell phone provides more reliable communications, or a woodworker that they can buy a table cheaper at the store. Doesn’t provide the creative outlet that doing it yourself provides.
Above all, your troll comments are not friendly to a person asking a simple question.
I have a funny suspicion the ham radio operator would agree that cell phones are a more reliable form of communication. They're by no stretch of the imagination as fun but definitely more reliable. The woodworkers response would probably be, if you want a cheaper table, you know where to get it, if you want a better table, I'm your man.
Gene51 wrote:
I heard it makes you a latte in the morning too!
I couldn't even get mine to make me a simple cup of coffee.
rjaywallace wrote:
Forget camera upgrades. Buy a good quality cellphone now!
I use a phone when an unexpected opportunity presents itself, a shot that would otherwise be missed. Wouldn't dream of using one for a planned shoot though, and no phone is going to serve as a master for my array of speedlights.
With your interests, I think the suggestion on the D500, and the 7000 series,
Try capturing and Eagle catching a fish at 100 yards with a high quality cellphone.
Don’t get me wrong, but if nature or birds are your thing, or large prints shot in raw for optimum editing, stick with DSLR or the new Mirrorless.
I own a D500 with the AF-S 200-500mm, 5.6 and works great for birding.
Good Luck!
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
quixdraw wrote:
Show me the money - in this case the photos. I don't spend any time in Coffee Shops, and live in the country. We can pick alternate subjects. Mano a mano. Not snobbery just fact - see if your phone can match my Nikons. As to your other issues - they are irrelevant in this conversation.
The OP hasn’t identified a single dissatisfaction with current Nikon equipment - no reason to purchase anything new - so smart phone with better camera makes as much sense as anything else.
rehess wrote:
The OP hasn’t identified a single dissatisfaction with current Nikon equipment - no reason to purchase anything new - so smart phone with better camera makes as much sense as anything else.
That is why asking such a question would have a lot of answers but none is useful.
Gene51 wrote:
Post a sample of an image that you are unhappy with that you feel might be improved with a new camera body. Or put another way, the image shows where you have been limited by the camera you now have.
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There's something to be said for that…but there's also something to be said for new toys:-)
wetreed wrote:
It’s the absolute best DX camera ever made.
Ok…just to debate a little…why? Although I do not own one…I have read many, many reviews and comparisons of it and it's closest equivalent the D7500. Sensor…same. Ability to AF and AE in slightly lower light maybe for the D500. Arguably slightly better weatherproofing for the 500 but the 7500 is weatherproofed pretty decently
500 has no built in flash…which is fine for a pro…but for a non pro do you really want to carry a flash around all the time?
Lack of U1 and U2 modes to make switching configurations quickly on the 500.
Ken Rockwell…I think we can all admit he's a pretty smart guy…but even he says that unless you are a sports shooter that needs the 10 vs 8 frames per second the 7500 is just as good and cheaper.
So…while I'll admit that the D500 is probably a little better made…for a lot of users better is the enemy of good enough. My 7500 sees pretty well in the dark too.
Whole bunch of "a smart phone is a better camera than a DSLR" going on here. It's simply not so. Sure…Apple and Google do a lot with software to intelligently (at least their idea of intelligently) fix your photos…and they do a pretty good job.
However…physics is still physics…and very small sensors with typically less resolution than a DSLR sensor mean more noise, worse low light performance and all the other drawbacks of small sensors.
Similarly…optics is still optics…and it's simply not possible for the lens in a phone to be as high quality as a DSLR lens…again, physics is physics.
A camera with a decent phone is a great thing to have…and I've taken (and published on the blog) great phone shots…but it's not a DSLR and for any sort of wildlife farther than 20 yards from the camera it just can't compare. I've also got several of the third part camera apps on my iPhone…and you can change a lot of things exposure and focus wise with. them…but as I said above…physics is physics.
It's also the photographer that makes the photo…not the camera…but to some extent you have to have equipment that will let you realize your ideas. We were in Yellowstone recently and happened across a flock of mountain goats that were between 20 and 75 yards from the road. Could you get a photo of the flock with a phone? Sure…but they would mostly be white dots. Could you get a closeup of the two juvenile males jousting with each other 40 yards away? Sure…but again white dots and not the beautifully frozen in time close up a DSLR would get.
That doesn't make a phone a bad thing to have…they have their uses especially if you see something and don't have your DSLR with you. But they also have a lot of limitations that there just isn't any getting around. Pros who want to prove a point can take a phone into a studio with lights and work around the limitations…but not having to work around limitations is much better.
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I have a funny suspicion the ham radio operator would agree that cell phones are a more reliable form of communication. They're by no stretch of the imagination as fun but definitely more reliable. The woodworkers response would probably be, if you want a cheaper table, you know where to get it, if you want a better table, I'm your man.
Nope.
Cell towers are designed to simultaneously serve a statistically calculated percentage of the users in and passing through the area. Once full, others cannot talk until someone disconnects. Stories abound of people not being able to access cellular service after an event.
When an event occurs interrupting the electrical power grid, most cell towers have limited backup power. Some still have none. No power, no phone service.
Amateur radio operators can operate on a wide variety of frequencies and regularly exercise the ability to operate independently of the commercial power grid for extended periods. More independently, we operate not depending on the survival of network switching centers.
And there are a myriad of other factors.
So no, amateur radio operators would absolutely not agree with your statement.
Larry
W5LEP
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My understanding of Nikon is that right now it is in the throws of a reorganization of its camera line up. Recently, it was reported that Canon took a 55% hit to its profit last quarter. No doubt all the camera manufacturers are feeling the same pinch except Sony, maybe. There are lots of rumors going around. One rumor that I recently read in the photography press is that Nikon plans to drop the D500 and will not be producing a replacement camera for it. Same so for the D3000 line, as well. With all this sort of stuff flying around about the camera industry wouldn't it be better to just sit tight for now until the dust gets settled? Who knows when that will be. But, it may be better to just sit tight until rumors become fact or are clarified. When a camera line goes extinct, suddenly its value drops since there will be no more firmware updates or newer models. You don't want to pay a hefty 'new' price for a D500 only to learn a month or two later that its price and value has dropped substantially. Trade in values are important when moving up. And, you always want to anticipate that when buying an upgrade camera. For many, upgrade does not stop with just one upgrade. Upgrades are often paid for partly by the sale of the old camera on the used camera market. Good shooting.
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