Sony chip in Nikon
Jul 26, 2019 16:23:13 #
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Jul 26, 2019 17:41:52 #
therwol
Loc: USA
mudduck wrote:
I've heard a rumor that the Nikon is going to use the new 61MP chip in one of their cameras
I read that they bought a 61MP chip from Sony, but they never give away their plans for cameras in advance, and they keep secrets well.
Jul 26, 2019 23:07:34 #
Nikon have been using Sony chips for years. If they ever come out with a 61mp camera I'm sure it will be a Sony too.
Jul 26, 2019 23:30:39 #
Strodav
Loc: Houston, Tx
I have heard multiple stories, but what a Nikon rep told me was that Nikon designs it's own high end sensors, that it has a whole design department for sensors, but they have them made at different manufacturers including Sony. He specifically mentioned the D850 back side illuminated sensor (which I was asking about as I bought my D850 that day) was totally designed by Nikon. So the questions I would like answered is who designed the sensor and then who made it.
This is from PetaPixel on 6/15/18: "The Nikon D850 contains one of the most highly regarded sensors on the market today, and Nikon has touted the fact that it was designed entirely by Nikon and not simply an off-the-shelf sensor. But in case you were wondering who its manufactured by, a new report has now concluded that it’s a Sony-made sensor. ... This seems to confirm the fact that Nikon designed the D850’s sensor and had Sony manufacture it to Nikon’s specifications."
This is from PetaPixel on 6/15/18: "The Nikon D850 contains one of the most highly regarded sensors on the market today, and Nikon has touted the fact that it was designed entirely by Nikon and not simply an off-the-shelf sensor. But in case you were wondering who its manufactured by, a new report has now concluded that it’s a Sony-made sensor. ... This seems to confirm the fact that Nikon designed the D850’s sensor and had Sony manufacture it to Nikon’s specifications."
Jul 27, 2019 06:52:52 #
Strodav wrote:
I have heard multiple stories, but what a Nikon re... (show quote)
Full article on the D850 sensor and Nikon’s claim to the design here.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/1234108119/nikon-d850-sensor-confirmed-as-sony-made?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-june-20&ref_=pe_1822230_289338610_dpr_nl_319_27
Jul 27, 2019 07:07:38 #
Jul 27, 2019 07:18:03 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Many rumors turn out to be true.
About as many as not so true???
Jul 27, 2019 07:45:50 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
mudduck wrote:
I've heard a rumor that the Nikon is going to use the new 61MP chip in one of their cameras
You are correct, that is a RUMOR.
Jul 27, 2019 08:33:35 #
appealnow
Loc: Dallas, Texas
Qualcomm, largest smartphone RF chip maker, designs the chips and handles their insertion, compatibility into each phone made by the phone manufacturers. It does not manufacture the chips; it is fabless. The chips are made by Samsung ( I think if memory serves me) and other chip foundries. So, the fact that Sony--which has a lot of experience manufacturing sensor chips--actually makes Nikon chips is not a negative. Plus, the chip making is very capital intensive and dependent on volume production. Everybody from the camera maker, chip maker to the camera buyer benefits with a superior product that costs less.
Jul 27, 2019 08:35:08 #
Outsourcing manufacturing of propriety designed items is not only common, it makes sense. The manufacturing of some items is so highly specialized requiring huge investments in infrastructure, tooling, controlled ultra-pure environments, and specialized skilled labor that it works out well for both companies even though they compete on some product lines in this case.
Sony made the investment for their own needs and rather than let it be underutilized they agreed to provide services for others, for a profit of course. They also learn what their competition is doing and they can use it as a springboard for their own R&D (avoiding patent infringements and breach of confidentiality agreements of course).
Sony made the investment for their own needs and rather than let it be underutilized they agreed to provide services for others, for a profit of course. They also learn what their competition is doing and they can use it as a springboard for their own R&D (avoiding patent infringements and breach of confidentiality agreements of course).
Jul 27, 2019 08:38:22 #
Nikon and Pentax both have used Sony Sensors in many of their cameras for years, nothing new there. As does Sony for their cameras, obviously. Example, from what I understand the Nikon D810 and the Pentax K-1 used pretty much the same 36MP FF 24x36mm Sensor. The Pentax probably a later variation. Though the two cameras are not identical, the processors and other features are different. I would even image there are Nikon and Sony and other MILCs and DSLRs using the same or similar Sony Sensors. Canon has been making their own Sensors, is that still true today?
Jul 27, 2019 08:58:05 #
For a customer the size of Nikon wouldn't you think Sony would give them free sample of any new sensor they want to sell?
Jul 27, 2019 09:03:25 #
A product manufacturer, in this case Nikon, designing the chips used in their equipment is a historic reality going back (in my personal knowledge) at least 50 years. Not only that but just about all products have a history, going back as far as you'd care to look, of the manufacturer designing and then subcontracting the actual build of sub components. IE Ford didn't build everything that went into the model T
Jul 27, 2019 09:04:56 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
therwol wrote:
I read that they bought a 61MP chip from Sony, but they never give away their plans for cameras in advance, and they keep secrets well.
YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED WHAT COMPANIES KNOW ABOUT EACH OTHER'S SECRETS.
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