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Jul 25, 2019 22:12:15   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
Lars Bogart wrote:
How would you have taken this photo ??
Objective was to get the color and detailed design drawings of the side of Canoe.
I was facing into the sun.
As you can see I failed , horribly.
Have attached photo & camera info. & settings.
Looking forward to your answers.


I would not have used Stationary, but instead, Continuous focus, I would have set a faster shutter speed, which could be accomplished by using a larger aperture opening, such as f/5.6, and I would have used a higher ISO, which would also allow for a faster shutter speed. I don't shoot JPEG so can't comment on that aspect of the image, but it's impossible to get an exposure that is perfect for everything in an image. Since there is no white in the image to worry about I might have exposed on the boat itself and then used +exposure compensation until I got it right, knowing that this would lighten the water, too, and then expecting to bring down the highlights in post for the water. That's just me and you asked what I would do. There are other approaches, too. Finding the right approach comes from knowing your gear and knowing what it is you want to achieve.

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Jul 26, 2019 06:33:39   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Gene51 wrote:
I shoot raw because I am not comfortable with the results I get from jpeg.

Raw + jpeg won't help in most circumstances -

It seems your image is about 1-2/3 stop underexposed. I would have used the spot meter function of the camera to measure the side of the boat, and either used it as is (lighter background) or slightly underexposed, (everything a little dark but lighter than what you posted) - and shot it as raw. The raw file would likely provide enough latitude to reveal the shadow detail that is completely missing in the jpeg.

This is an example of what should have been a "miserable failure" but because I used raw and not jpeg, it really wasn't. I believe it has a greater contrast range than your image, yet I was able to reveal, in post processing, all the texture on the stone walls. The first image was used to create the second one.
I shoot raw because I am not comfortable with the ... (show quote)


spot metering = always for me. I can expose for what is most important in the pic.

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Jul 26, 2019 08:38:44   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
It’s a matter of being able to quickly analyze the light and then be prepared. Go out and practice with bracketing backlit subjects. That might be a place to start improving in these situations. It’s always "all about the light".

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Jul 26, 2019 08:46:39   #
Lars Bogart Loc: Camano Isl., Wa., U.S.A.
 
Thank's

I'm Beginning to See The Light !!

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Jul 26, 2019 12:01:33   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
- shoot in raw+jpeg
- bracket. electrons are cheap
- raise exposure on canoe
- zoom in, if possible
- use a lens shade
- use ideal ISO for your camera

adjust to taste in post

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Jul 26, 2019 13:51:54   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
- shoot in raw+jpeg
- bracket. electrons are cheap
- raise exposure on canoe
- zoom in, if possible
- use a lens shade
- use ideal ISO for your camera

adjust to taste in post

but watch shutter speed to keep motion blur under control.

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Jul 26, 2019 15:44:21   #
CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
 
I would have shot twice - once for canoe and once for background and put them together in post. Some shots just can't be made without some PP. You could have shot for the canoe and let the sky go or vice-versa.

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Jul 26, 2019 17:28:19   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Lars Bogart wrote:
How would you have taken this photo ??
Objective was to get the color and detailed design drawings of the side of Canoe.
I was facing into the sun.
As you can see I failed , horribly.
Have attached photo & camera info. & settings.
Looking forward to your answers.


Shutter priority would let you fix the speed to a higher value, say 1/500. This image is blurred. You might also use a camera with image stabilization in the lens and/or body.

Aperture could be f/5.6 or thereabouts (sharper on that lens, and lets in more light so you can use a faster shutter speed).

For more depth of field (f/8 or so) and shutter speed, try ISO 400.

Exposure compensation of +2/3 stop or more may be required to hold shadows open, but that will burn out the highlights of a JPEG. SO...

Save a raw file, so you can adjust it on the computer to tame highlights and open shadows.

Use Daylight white balance for water scenes like this, where so much of the scene is blue. The AWB circuit is trying to neutralize excess blue by subtracting blue. That grays out the blues a bit.

These sorts of things you learn through reading books, trial and error, more reading, more trials... It takes time to build your knowledge so you can add technical finesse to your work. After a while, these techniques are like breathing. You just use them.

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Jul 26, 2019 17:56:10   #
cdayton
 
Gene51 wrote:
I shoot raw because I am not comfortable with the results I get from jpeg.

Raw + jpeg won't help in most circumstances -

It seems your image is about 1-2/3 stop underexposed. I would have used the spot meter function of the camera to measure the side of the boat, and either used it as is (lighter background) or slightly underexposed, (everything a little dark but lighter than what you posted) - and shot it as raw. The raw file would likely provide enough latitude to reveal the shadow detail that is completely missing in the jpeg.

This is an example of what should have been a "miserable failure" but because I used raw and not jpeg, it really wasn't. I believe it has a greater contrast range than your image, yet I was able to reveal, in post processing, all the texture on the stone walls. The first image was used to create the second one.
I shoot raw because I am not comfortable with the ... (show quote)

This is what I get from your “miserable failure” jpeg using PS Express on my iPad. Maybe I’m missing the point.



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Jul 26, 2019 18:56:55   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
cdayton wrote:
This is what I get from your “miserable failure” jpeg using PS Express on my iPad. Maybe I’m missing the point.
All of the light is split between the lower one-eighth and the upper one-eighth of the histogram. You can redistribute it to make a better distribution, but the particular situation did make this an awkward problem to fix.

{since in the Age of Film I shot Kodachrome primarily, I developed habits which include having the sun behind me whenever possible}



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Oct 8, 2019 11:20:16   #
tinwhistle
 
I would have used a neutral density filter...

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