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Jul 23, 2019 11:29:19   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Well you have come most of the way, you know he is immoral, you know he is h**ed and the best thing you can say is that there have been worse. Start the search for someone better.


Shouldn’t you be moore worried about the 20 losers that represent you, the loser?

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Jul 23, 2019 11:29:54   #
btbg
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Well you have come most of the way, you know he is immoral, you know he is h**ed and the best thing you can say is that there have been worse. Start the search for someone better.


Why don't you try to be honest for once. Obama was immoral, Clinton was immoral, Johnson was immoral, Nixon was immoral, in fact the only two presidents in my lifetime that I can say for sure were moral were Jimmy Carter who was a terrible president and Reagan.

Maybe Bush 1, but that is unclear. You know just as well as anyone else on this site that we often have a binary choice for president and we try to pick the best of the choices that we have. Half the country believes that we did that. The other half refuses to recognize anything good he does and refuses to acknowledge the immorality of the other choice.

And saying that there have clearly been worse is a direct answer to Artz post.

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Jul 23, 2019 11:31:34   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
yhtomit wrote:
Shouldn’t you be moore worried about the 20 losers that represent you, the loser?


No need to worry, most would be better than trump. Some would be lots better.

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Jul 23, 2019 11:34:19   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
btbg wrote:
Why don't you try to be honest for once. Obama was immoral, Clinton was immoral, Johnson was immoral, Nixon was immoral, in fact the only two presidents in my lifetime that I can say for sure were moral were Jimmy Carter who was a terrible president and Reagan.

Maybe Bush 1, but that is unclear. You know just as well as anyone else on this site that we often have a binary choice for president and we try to pick the best of the choices that we have. Half the country believes that we did that. The other half refuses to recognize anything good he does and refuses to acknowledge the immorality of the other choice.

And saying that there have clearly been worse is a direct answer to Artz post.
Why don't you try to be honest for once. Obama was... (show quote)


I never denied that previous presidents have been immoral. Show where I did.

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Jul 23, 2019 12:03:06   #
trainspotter Loc: Oregon
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
No need to worry, most would be better than trump. Some would be lots better.


Cast your v**e bro..

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Jul 23, 2019 12:28:12   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
No need to worry, most would be better than trump. Some would be lots better.


Which one isn’t a socialist comrade?

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Jul 23, 2019 12:32:14   #
One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID
 
Carter was pretty much a 0, he managed to give away the Panama Canal, the best one was to pardon the draft dodgers that left the country. Made my s**t list that day for sure.

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Jul 23, 2019 12:38:41   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
One Rude Dawg wrote:
Carter was pretty much a 0, he managed to give away the Panama Canal, the best one was to pardon the draft dodgers that left the country. Made my s**t list that day for sure.


As a man, I hold Carter in my highest regard, as a President though, he was horrible.

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Jul 23, 2019 12:46:53   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
yhtomit wrote:
Which one isn’t a socialist comrade?


Your concern not my definition or concern. Good ideas are good, could care less whose they are.

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Jul 23, 2019 12:54:44   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
One Rude Dawg wrote:
Carter was pretty much a 0, he managed to give away the Panama Canal, the best one was to pardon the draft dodgers that left the country. Made my s**t list that day for sure.


Let us never under estimate how completely Carter summed up his presidency in the Malaise Speech.

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Jul 23, 2019 13:19:58   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Your concern not my definition or concern. Good ideas are good, could care less whose they are.


Not “whose” what/who they represent. Which one is the best socialist for our country?
Thank you in advance for not deflecting or going off down a rabbit hole...

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Jul 23, 2019 14:04:03   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
btbg wrote:
Artz you really ought to look up Kennedy's drug use and womanizing. Far beyond anything that Trump could ever do. Then you have Clinton and his alleged rapes as well as the misdeeds with an intern that would get you fired in any private sector job.

Then there is LBJ who won his first public e******n because of how many dead people v**ed, then when someone challenged the e******n the court house mysteriously burnt down along with all the v**er records.

The list could go on and on. There have been worse presidents than Trump, even in our lifetime, and there have been plenty that have been worse in the past.

In fact, when you look at what they accomplish in office, so far Trump is above average. We will have to wait to see where he ends up eventually.

What is true is that never in history has there been a president that was so h**ed by approximately half of the country and half of the congress. That doesn't make him a bad president, that just proves that he isn't well liked either because of his personal life, or his politics. I believe it is his politics.

And in spite of what you think, he was better than the alternative and he is certainly better than anyone running against him, at least so far. Not my first choice, not my second, but if it's Trump or Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden or Kamela Harris, then it's an easy choice. Trum it is.
Artz you really ought to look up Kennedy's drug us... (show quote)



BTBG,
You made some valid points about past presidents. As for the future, we must wait. Nothing is decided yet.
I cannot in good conscience v**e for Trump.
Art

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Jul 23, 2019 14:07:35   #
Angmo
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
BTBG,
You made some valid points about past presidents. As for the future, we must wait. Nothing is decided yet.
I cannot in good conscience v**e for Trump.
Art


An e******n is your right to v**e for someone else’s choice.

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Jul 23, 2019 14:13:28   #
Rose42
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
BTBG,
You made some valid points about past presidents. As for the future, we must wait. Nothing is decided yet.
I cannot in good conscience v**e for Trump.
Art


I can understand that but what I can't understand is why anyone could v**e for any of the current crop of democrat candidates in good conscience. There are all garbage.

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Jul 23, 2019 14:15:12   #
Angmo
 
Rose42 wrote:
I can understand that but what I can't understand is why anyone could v**e for any of the current crop of democrat candidates in good conscience. There are all garbage.


I v**e based on results. Not media, lies and propaganda. Actual results.

Trump gets s**t done and believes in America.

Obakapig sucks out loud.

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