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Jul 22, 2019 23:18:30   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
jcboy3 wrote:
That is because it is not a characteristic of mirrorless, but a characteristic of crop sensor. A full frame mirrorless camera has the same DOF as a full frame DSLR.


Absolutely, that's why I made the comment.

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Jul 23, 2019 00:17:13   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Well said: "If you are happy with the images your DSLR produces with the lenses you have, there is no advantage to switching."

I reached the same conclusion after reading several write-ups of mirrorless cameras.
jackpinoh wrote:
Mirrorless camera advantages:
1. What you see is what you get. You know you have the correct exposure before you press the shutter release.
2. Front focus and back-focus problems caused by buildup of lens, focus sensor, and mirror tolerances in DSLRs are resolved.
3. No vibration at low shutter speeds as a result of the mirror being lifted for the exposure.
4. You can see the histogram on the back of the camera and in the viewfinder before you press the shutter release, making ETTR (expose to the right) easy.
5. The AF points cover a much larger area of the focal plane--up to 95% in some systems.

While mirrorless cameras weigh ½ to 1lb less than their DSLR counterparts, the lenses don't weigh less and some find the grip on mirrorless cameras to be uncomfortably small.

If you are happy with the images your DSLR produces with the lenses you have, there is no advantage to switching--you would have to learn a new set of controls and a new menu system.

Mirrorless cameras work better with native mirrorless lenses, but adapted DSLR lenses are an option. Buying a whole new camera system of both camera and lenses is expensive.
Mirrorless camera advantages: br 1. What you see i... (show quote)

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Jul 23, 2019 00:59:17   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
kufengler wrote:
I have a Nikon D7100 w/18-200mm Nikkor lens and Nikon D90 w/10-24mm Nikor lens; about 18 months ago I purchased a Canon EOS M50 w/EF-M 18-150 lens after trying out the M3 on a couple trips. As far as results for what I take pictures of I feel the mirror-less is just as good as the DSLR cameras I have.
My main reason for getting the Mirror-less is size, weight & just as good picture quality. I got tired of lugging the DSLR cameras on our Mexico vacations, where as the M50 even with the 18-150 lens fits in my shoulder bag that I usually carry when we wander around.
I have a Nikon D7100 w/18-200mm Nikkor lens and ... (show quote)


I too have the M50 but no EF-M lenses. I use an EF-EOS M2 0.71 adapter for my Canon EF lenses and although the M50 is APS-C format, the 0.71 adapter turns it into a virtual full frame camera.
FYI, mirrorless is not hyphenated, it's just one word. A better label is the acronym MILC because any camera that does not have a mirror is a mirrorless camera, including point and shoot and Bridge cameras.

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Jul 23, 2019 01:08:09   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
bittermelon wrote:
No mirror is harmed in the manufacture of mirrorless cameras. Thus more mirrors get to run free in the wilderness.


The problem with free-range mirrors is they spend too much time reflecting on their accomplishments.

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Jul 23, 2019 01:30:20   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Bill P wrote:
There is a common misconception that you can lighten your load with a mirrorless camera. The weight between a mirrorless and an SLR body is small. The real difference is with the smaller sensor cameras, as the biggest par pf a camera's weight is in the lens. This is where m4/3 holds a real advantage.


I don't know if it's a misconception, common or otherwise, but I'd venture to speculate it comes down to individual models. My M50 is quite a bit lighter than my EOS 5D mk IV and my EOS 5Dsr and my EOS 7D mk II, etc. As for the biggest part of a cameras weight being the lens, it really depends on the lens.

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Jul 23, 2019 01:38:53   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
anotherview wrote:
Well said: "If you are happy with the images your DSLR produces with the lenses you have, there is no advantage to switching."

I reached the same conclusion after reading several write-ups of mirrorless cameras.


Couldn't agree more. If it ain't broke, no reason to fix it.

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Jul 23, 2019 02:10:31   #
JhnMhn
 
Have made my living from photography for over 30 years. Have used canon F1s, Canon 1Ds, and most recently Canon 5Ds (MKIIIs, and IVs). Recently started using the Canon R and love it for all the reasons already given for mirrorless.
Was never entirely pleased with AF bodies...too much error in mirror/AF mechanics compared to manually focussing on the F1's ground glass. Adjusting microfocus is a royal pain, and varies depending on temp requiring adjustment in the field which is an even bigger pain.
Since switching to the R, my focus accuracy is much improved, and microfocussing is just a bad memory.
Also, the focus peaking manual focus aid in the R is a godsend when using tilt and shift lenses.
I also appreciate the weight loss...my standard bagweight has been reduced by 1+ lb, a modest but noticeable and appreciated weight loss, along with more room in the bag.

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Jul 23, 2019 20:38:43   #
dick ranez
 
It makes your wallet lighter.

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Jul 23, 2019 22:02:49   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
dick ranez wrote:
It makes your wallet lighter.


Photography in general makes your wallet lighter. A lot of cellphone users have GAS when that new cellphone comes out with new and better cellphone camera; not a lot of functional change to the cellphone except the camera these days. GAS is no longer limited to the straightforward camera. It now applies to all cameras in whatever or wherever they may be.

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Jul 24, 2019 00:13:28   #
Bfree2 Loc: Grants Pass, Or
 
For me the choice was made without much advance planning or research. In ‘06 at a spring training game I had set down my D200 for just a moment. . . So still wanting to capture the moments only now on a budget with an unexpected expense I picked up a E500 Olympus. Fast forward to last year I walked into a brick n mortar store, wanting a D7200 I checked out the Sony a6000. I was impressed with the focus speed, the FPS, and with the with price reduction. They had a demo which I took several captures and after loading to my iPad I was sold. BUT.. had I still had my D200 and glass the 7500 would be here. But with the Sony, I already upgraded to the 6400, invested in some prime glass, and looking at a full frame next.

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Jul 24, 2019 16:25:49   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
some cool features that most dslrs don't have.

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Aug 12, 2019 01:29:50   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Come on, folks: “Mirrorless”, not “mirror less”.

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Aug 12, 2019 07:05:25   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Come on, folks: “Mirrorless”, not “mirror less”.
My computer marks "Mirrorless" as spelling mistake, so it encourages me to use "mirror less"; apparently the system has both "mirror" and "less" in the dictionary, but not the two combined.

Technically we are talking about MILC - the "Interchangeable Lens" part is just as important as the "Mirrorless" part - otherwise the least expensive P&S still available would be included.

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