GailConnorsPhotography Loc: Holbrook, MA

Of course there are limitations...never said there wasn't

GailConnorsPhotography Loc: Holbrook, MA

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TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Gail, please use the “quote reply” button if you’re responding to a post so we’ll know who you’re responding to 😎.

Now, here's a really poor shot that exemplifies why a cellphone, while extremely useful, has low light limitations and won’t replace your DSLR. This is an available light indoor shot with an IPhone that is a complete failure. The scene is simply beyond the low light capabilities of the phone.

Now below that is the same shot in the same conditions taken with a Canon 5D4 and 135 f2L, SOOC - just cropped. BTW, it’s not great either (I didn’t take it) and the focus is a bit off, it’s at high ISO (12,600 I believe) and cropped substantially. See the difference?

GailConnorsPhotography Loc: Holbrook, MA

I've taken shots from my beach house over the ocean, no lights to be seen after midnight (almost pitch black) & it looked like early evening, my Canon 5D couldn't capture it, no matter how high I set the ISO. I'm kinda getting tired of this back & forth, anyone else? I love my DSLR but I still see the need for phone cameras & they are getting better all the time. I think I'm done on this subject. thanks for all the input

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

I think after 15 pages, you would be, so I’ll sign off also.

I would just add that if you meant the original 5D, which is now 14 years old, sensor technology in the phone may very well be better, but here’s the difference. Unless you’ve downloaded an ap to allow you to control the phone’s shutter speed, it will keep the shutter open long enough to get an exposure (whether it’s useful or not), even if it’s seconds. You can do the same thing with the 5D if you keep the shutter open for long enough manually with very slow speed or by using bulb.

Hope some of the information that developed in the 15 pages proved useful.

Cheers

GailConnorsPhotography Loc: Holbrook, MA

My Canon EOS 5D is 3 years old, cost $2,000. + . No, sorry you're wrong, you can control the shutter with the in phone camera app., it has manual exposure controls! You can take long exposures to slow motion, shorter shutter speeds to freeze motion, when you change one the camera will adjust the other (similar to Aperture or Shutter priority You can also exp./focus lock, has HDR, Phase Detection Auto focus, same kind of very fast refocusing as professional SLR cameras, it does amazing well in low light. I know all about "Bulb setting" & also other apps available for smartphones, I'm talking bare bones for the iPhone 7Plus and later, maybe you should take my class. You're welcome

GailConnorsPhotography Loc: Holbrook, MA

At the time I wasn't responding to anyone in particular.

GailConnorsPhotography Loc: Holbrook, MA

Oh...Please!! This a ridiculous comparison; The pet owner /photographer didn't know how to to hold or steady a cell phone & had no idea of settings, & went wild on editing & waaaay over increased the "Noise Reduction" scale. And, then you show us the DSLR shot that you didn't even take, that you won't take credit for, that means you don't know the conditions under which it was captured...so, Why did you even post this?

GailConnorsPhotography Loc: Holbrook, MA

14 yrs old!! Are you kidding me? Where are you from? Earth

E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

15 Pages? Out of all theses pages, how much of the conversation is really about PHOTOGRAPHY, y'all know- all that good stuff about composition, artistic recognition and use of light, capturing unique images and expressions, recording important family events, and even just making meaningful snapshots for sentimental value. All of the aforementioned subject matter can be applied to a cell phone camera or the most advanced, latest and greatest DSLR. Anyone who has a modicum of photographic knowledge or common sense must realize that every kind of camera has its advantages and limitations.

Sadly, this is a typical thread with snide remarks, and, of course, the "requisite English lesson" and 2 references to a German colloquialism for male genitalia- all important components of a scholarly dissertation on photography?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with teaching a class in cellphone photography. Why not? Just about everyone has a cell phone but not everyone has an advanced photographic system. What could possibly be bad about folks learning to maximize the potential of the devices they have and create a little art with a handy simple device? What's bad about simply making sharp, clear images for a person to share and enjoy.

I'll tell you what bad around here on this site- ignorant and vulgar responses. If you scan through many of the posts and threads, y'all might observe that the folks who go on endlessly about gear and engage in ongoing and unpleasant arguments about equipment, usually don't post PICTURES! And...oftentimes, the images they rarely post are rather disappointing considering the vast inventories of gear they list in their posts.

What's all of this about "low light"? I have lots of fast-glass for my DSLR system but how many of y'all are shooting "black cats in coal mines at midnight" kinda things? My Samsung S-9 and another old Chineses-made no-name phone work perfectly well in low light- surprisingly well!

Problem is, so many folks around here have taken all the FUN out of photography. I have been involved, full time, in professional photography for a very long time and have used equipment that many of the folks here would never dream of and I still own too much of it, however, I can still have fun on my days off with my cell-phone camera and even bring it to work to record setups and communicate images to my off-site or out of town clients.

It's really too bad that many well-meaning folks end up leaving the threads and the entire in disgust.

PS: My wife and I call our devices "POP-TARTS" because they are about the same size as the popular toaster-pastries that we ate too many of in our youth. We love the fact that we can communicate and image in so many ways with a pocket-sized unit.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Gail, what is the problem with your attitude and all the snarky (and mistaken) remarks? If this is the way you ask for advice on UHH and respond, I don’t think you’re going to be satisfied with the relationship.

Perhaps you better READ both your and my posts again - to wit: YOU said you had a 5D (not at 5D2, 5D3 or 5D4). The Canon 5D was introduced in 2005 - if you doubt that, look it up. And if you can’t get an exposure with it on the beach at night, then YOU better take a photography course. My son (who actually does teach photography) uses a 5D3 on the beach at night and gets some fabulous milky way shots along with the surroundings. I would post one so you can see how to do it, but after your responses, I wouldn’t waste my time.

Next, you should read my last post again. I said that UNLESS you use an ap to control the iPhone... I did NOT say you couldn’t completely control the Phone with an appropriate ap.

Now for the shots I posted as an example only (not as an example of fine work) - this is my new Abyssinian kitten in my breakfast room in dim light. I did not compose the shot carefully, just grabbed my IPhone for a SNAPHOT, and as you can see from the noise and lack off resolution, it wasn’t up to the task without a flash. Now the other shot was taken by my son, who inaddition to having taught photography for many years, works as a part-time Pro. He happened to be there and picked up my 5D4, which he had never touched before (he shoots a 5D3 and Fuji). It had a 135 f2L mounted and he grabbed a quick shot without changing the AF settings. it is not tack sharp as it would have been if the AF had been set correctly, but there’s nothing wrong with the composition. I was going to discard it, but cropped and posted it to show the contrast as to what the two cameras would do under difficult conditions.

Frankly, after reading your responses to me, I’m not sure why you posted a question in the first place as you obviously already know everything about photography, and since you apparently don’t know much about your 5D and it doesn’t work for you, then you better stick to your cellphone - it’s a perfect tool for a pro like you. Now unwatching, so save your rude response.

dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

Still use quote reply. In the brief time you take to post, your comment may appear to mean something you did not intend. Using quote reply allows others to understand your comment in context.

also

Having quickly reviewed the thread, I think you are struggling with this issue but also seem to be getting a grip on it sufficient to teach a how to course on cell phone photography at a community center.
While it was not clear at the outset, and took way too many pages to get detail out of you, it seems the course would be designed to help people trying to get the most out of the capabilities of their phones.
You will need to make sure that you are able to provide guidance to both Android and iPhone users.
Yes I know that there are more Android users than iPhone users, but in the US at least it is close to a 50/50 split. iPhone has a slightly higher market share while Android has a slightly higher use rate. The difference appears to have something to do with Android users keeping their phones longer.
But, anyway, you will need to choose camera apps that either operate on both platforms or have the similar capabilities.

Good luck and let us know how the course goes.

GailConnorsPhotography Loc: Holbrook, MA

Thank you for that information

GailConnorsPhotography Loc: Holbrook, MA

Talk about "Snarky"!! if it wasn't for the wonderful, intelligent, well meaning photographers, I now consider friends on this forum I would quit. If there are only a few like you, that like to lash out, can't listen, learn or help. I will just skip by, or block.

GailConnorsPhotography Loc: Holbrook, MA

Such a wonderful Outlook, I'll have to keep your words in mind...while I ramble through this!