First. let me fully disclose that I am a Sony Fanboy/ I don’t know much about the camera I just heard about it’s existence about 30 minutes ago. Given that it’s a top of the line Sony , it may just be the best mirrorless full frame “SLR” in the world . At 61 MP. it’s theoretical resolution may exceed the capabilities of the rest of the chain links involved in getting a photo. It seems to me like it’s extremely expensive overkill. Are all, I shoot very few 30 Ft x 40 Ft photos (posters)? for pixelpeepers to view from a distance of 24 inches. Remember back in the early days of digital consumer cameras when 3.8 MP was finally matching the resolution of the very best film?
How much is too much? What lenses (at any cost) can take advantage fhat much sensor resolution?
It’s analogous to the engineer’s response to whether the glass is 1/2 full or 1/2 empty. The engineer says “The glass is twice too big” In my mind, this camera is twice too big. Very few will be able to make use of the full capacity of the camera.It’s like driving a Formula 1 race car to the corner grocery in order to buy disposable diapers.
Nevertheless, I expect it to sell well among those afflicted with GAS or who feel that the best gear is the only way to make good pictures. Do I want one? hell yes. Will Buy one? hell no
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
photogeneralist wrote:
First. let me fully disclose that I am a Sony Fanboy/ I don’t know much about the camera I just heard about it’s existence about 30 minutes ago. Given that it’s a top of the line Sony , it may just be the best mirrorless full frame “SLR” in the world . At 61 MP. it’s theoretical resolution may exceed the capabilities of the rest of the chain links involved in getting a photo. It seems to me like it’s extremely expensive overkill. Are all, I shoot very few 30 Ft x 40 Ft photos (posters)? for pixelpeepers to view from a distance of 24 inches. Remember back in the early days of digital consumer cameras when 3.8 MP was finally matching the resolution of the very best film?
How much is too much? What lenses (at any cost) can take advantage fhat much sensor resolution?
It’s analogous to the engineer’s response to whether the glass is 1/2 full or 1/2 empty. The engineer says “The glass is twice too big” In my mind, this camera is twice too big. Very few will be able to make use of the full capacity of the camera.It’s like driving a Formula 1 race car to the corner grocery in order to buy disposable diapers.
Nevertheless, I expect it to sell well among those afflicted with GAS or who feel that the best gear is the only way to make good pictures. Do I want one? hell yes. Will Buy one? hell no
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We already have an extensive thread on this page about this camera.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-600990-1.html
engineers don't check the search box ....
Sounds like sour grapes to me .....
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"Will Buy one? hell no" How about $1998? Yes, if the price is right!
photogeneralist wrote:
First. let me fully disclose that I am a Sony Fanboy/ I don’t know much about the camera I just heard about it’s existence about 30 minutes ago. Given that it’s a top of the line Sony , it may just be the best mirrorless full frame “SLR” in the world . At 61 MP. it’s theoretical resolution may exceed the capabilities of the rest of the chain links involved in getting a photo. It seems to me like it’s extremely expensive overkill. Are all, I shoot very few 30 Ft x 40 Ft photos (posters)? for pixelpeepers to view from a distance of 24 inches. Remember back in the early days of digital consumer cameras when 3.8 MP was finally matching the resolution of the very best film?
How much is too much? What lenses (at any cost) can take advantage fhat much sensor resolution?
It’s analogous to the engineer’s response to whether the glass is 1/2 full or 1/2 empty. The engineer says “The glass is twice too big” In my mind, this camera is twice too big. Very few will be able to make use of the full capacity of the camera.It’s like driving a Formula 1 race car to the corner grocery in order to buy disposable diapers.
Nevertheless, I expect it to sell well among those afflicted with GAS or who feel that the best gear is the only way to make good pictures. Do I want one? hell yes. Will Buy one? hell no
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If you ever crop a pic you may find the "extra pixels" REALLY handy, I know that I do.
Sometimes I don't have a long lens on the camera and shoot anyway and crop to suit.
Besides storage is cheap now. Just saying.
Smile,
Jimmy T Sends
TomV
Loc: Annapolis, Maryland
Jimmy T wrote:
If you ever crop a pic you may find the "extra pixels" REALLY handy, I know that I do.
Sometimes I don't have a long lens on the camera and shoot anyway and crop to suit.
Besides storage is cheap now. Just saying.
Smile,
Jimmy T Sends
Whole-heartedly agree. When I upgraded from my 24 to 42 Mpx Sony I was able to sell my 12 lb 600mm and get the 7 lb 500mm with still more reach. My back thanks me !
photogeneralist wrote:
First. let me fully disclose that I am a Sony Fanboy/ I don’t know much about the camera I just heard about it’s existence about 30 minutes ago. Given that it’s a top of the line Sony , it may just be the best mirrorless full frame “SLR” in the world . At 61 MP. it’s theoretical resolution may exceed the capabilities of the rest of the chain links involved in getting a photo. It seems to me like it’s extremely expensive overkill. Are all, I shoot very few 30 Ft x 40 Ft photos (posters)? for pixelpeepers to view from a distance of 24 inches. Remember back in the early days of digital consumer cameras when 3.8 MP was finally matching the resolution of the very best film?
How much is too much? What lenses (at any cost) can take advantage fhat much sensor resolution?
It’s analogous to the engineer’s response to whether the glass is 1/2 full or 1/2 empty. The engineer says “The glass is twice too big” In my mind, this camera is twice too big. Very few will be able to make use of the full capacity of the camera.It’s like driving a Formula 1 race car to the corner grocery in order to buy disposable diapers.
Nevertheless, I expect it to sell well among those afflicted with GAS or who feel that the best gear is the only way to make good pictures. Do I want one? hell yes. Will Buy one? hell no
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I have been considering buying a Sony A9, mainly because the outstanding AF will help me take photos of birds-in-flight more easily. But I hesitated because the narrower field of view of a crop sensor camera is more advantages in photographing birds-in-flight. I also photograph landscapes and urban scenes. For some things I photograph,
but not everything, this camera is overkill. All other things being equal, now I won't need both a full frame camera and a crop sensor camera. I like that. Every camera is a tool. I only buy new tools when my current tools are insufficient to accomplish what I want to accomplish. I suspect you are correct in believing that the A7Riv isn't for you.
Jimmy T wrote:
If you ever crop a pic you may find the "extra pixels" REALLY handy, I know that I do.
Sometimes I don't have a long lens on the camera and shoot anyway and crop to suit.
Besides storage is cheap now. Just saying.
Smile,
Jimmy T Sends
You got me on the deep cropping argument. Had not considered that aspect since it's so far out of my paradigms. Cropping that deeply must "put a strain on" lens quality and picture taking technique.
Maybe when the A7RV comes out, and if my ship comes in, I'll be able to afford an A7RIV and a few high quality e mount lenses and then learn all about cropping. But it's probably not going to happen. The costs of changing my entire system would reach almost $7000 (9000 if computer upgrade is included) and the technical quality increase, in practical usage, would just not justify the expense.
photogeneralist wrote:
You got me on the deep cropping argument. Had not considered that aspect since it's so far out of my paradigms. Cropping that deeply must "put a strain on" lens quality and picture taking technique.
Maybe when the A7RV comes out, and if my ship comes in, I'll be able to afford an A7RIV and a few high quality e mount lenses and then learn all about cropping. But it's probably not going to happen.
The costs of changing my entire system would reach almost $7000 (9000 if computer upgrade is included) and the technical quality increase, in practical usage, would just not justify the expense. I can only spend limited dollars on my hobby and the discretionary dollars that I have available to spend can achieve greater satisfaction per dollar if spent elsewhere.
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And yes, there is a "sour grapes" component to my initial posting but FOR ME AND MY NEEDS, my original logic is still valid
photogeneralist wrote:
First. let me fully disclose that I am a Sony Fanboy/ I don’t know much about the camera I just heard about it’s existence about 30 minutes ago. Given that it’s a top of the line Sony , it may just be the best mirrorless full frame “SLR” in the world . At 61 MP. it’s theoretical resolution may exceed the capabilities of the rest of the chain links involved in getting a photo. It seems to me like it’s extremely expensive overkill. Are all, I shoot very few 30 Ft x 40 Ft photos (posters)? for pixelpeepers to view from a distance of 24 inches. Remember back in the early days of digital consumer cameras when 3.8 MP was finally matching the resolution of the very best film?
How much is too much? What lenses (at any cost) can take advantage fhat much sensor resolution?
It’s analogous to the engineer’s response to whether the glass is 1/2 full or 1/2 empty. The engineer says “The glass is twice too big” In my mind, this camera is twice too big. Very few will be able to make use of the full capacity of the camera.It’s like driving a Formula 1 race car to the corner grocery in order to buy disposable diapers.
Nevertheless, I expect it to sell well among those afflicted with GAS or who feel that the best gear is the only way to make good pictures. Do I want one? hell yes. Will Buy one? hell no
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Nicely said. It's too much for this Sony fanboy.
photogeneralist wrote:
First. let me fully disclose that I am a Sony Fanboy/ I don’t know much about the camera I just heard about it’s existence about 30 minutes ago. Given that it’s a top of the line Sony , it may just be the best mirrorless full frame “SLR” in the world . At 61 MP. it’s theoretical resolution may exceed the capabilities of the rest of the chain links involved in getting a photo. It seems to me like it’s extremely expensive overkill. Are all, I shoot very few 30 Ft x 40 Ft photos (posters)? for pixelpeepers to view from a distance of 24 inches. Remember back in the early days of digital consumer cameras when 3.8 MP was finally matching the resolution of the very best film?
How much is too much? What lenses (at any cost) can take advantage fhat much sensor resolution?
It’s analogous to the engineer’s response to whether the glass is 1/2 full or 1/2 empty. The engineer says “The glass is twice too big” In my mind, this camera is twice too big. Very few will be able to make use of the full capacity of the camera.It’s like driving a Formula 1 race car to the corner grocery in order to buy disposable diapers.
Nevertheless, I expect it to sell well among those afflicted with GAS or who feel that the best gear is the only way to make good pictures. Do I want one? hell yes. Will Buy one? hell no
First. let me fully disclose that I am a Sony Fanb... (
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Great specs, but the price is too high for my needs.
going to need more storage
chuck
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
If I wouod switch systems and pay 3 grand + for a new body it would be a Nikon D850 not this Sony
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