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Jul 16, 2019 14:42:12   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
Won't bore you with the details of the what or why or eventual use of any of these images, so.... Suffice it to say that doing photo documentation (of pretty much anything?) these days is SO much more satisfying --with digital and its associated tools and techniques-- now than it ever was in the past using film and analog processes.


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Jul 16, 2019 14:55:59   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
Great imaging man....nice work indeed.

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Jul 16, 2019 15:09:12   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 

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Jul 16, 2019 15:24:33   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Cany143 wrote:
Won't bore you with the details of the what or why or eventual use of any of these images, so.... Suffice it to say that doing photo documentation (of pretty much anything?) these days is SO much more satisfying --with digital and its associated tools and techniques-- now than it ever was in the past using film and analog processes.


Nicely done images.

I would guess that it is documentation of ancient rock shelters, camp sites, petroglyphs and rock art in the region.
Could be for a scholarly project, mapping for archaeologists, a guide book or so the BLM/Rangers etc will have a better idea of areas/locations that need protecting.

Digital is much more versatile and in ways easier than film. Esp since a few memory cards are much easier to pack around than huge amounts of film. And if you shoot RAW you can convert and process in so many ways. Not like when I carried two bodies, one loaded with B&W and one with Color Slide or color negative film. One RAW file can be all those and more.

Back in 1972 as part of combined Geography, Anthropology field school in Michoacán I was the Camera Nut and got to do the documentation, photo essays and even a one day class in use of photography in field research (Prof gave me a small book on it and 3 days to read it and plan lessons). A local camera store (Agfa dealer) that the one Prof had worked with while doing his PhD in the area gave me discounts on the film, processing and did proof sheets for us. When we got back the University did a display of some of my photos (I got most of the prints when it was taken down the next quarter.) and several of them were published in a newspaper article about our 1st Annual Field School (they went on for about 10 years). I have a copy of the pages from the paper in a sealed archive envelope - but someone at the paper attributed all the shots to the professor who wrote the article instead of me. The professor did apologize about that mix up. If I ever needed to prove they were mine - well, I have all the negatives and slides from that whole summer right here in my files.

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Jul 16, 2019 16:56:21   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
robertjerl wrote:
Nicely done images.

I would guess that it is documentation of ancient rock shelters, camp sites, petroglyphs and rock art in the region.
Could be for a scholarly project, mapping for archaeologists, a guide book or so the BLM/Rangers etc will have a better idea of areas/locations that need protecting.

Digital is much more versatile and in ways easier than film. Esp since a few memory cards are much easier to pack around than huge amounts of film. And if you shoot RAW you can convert and process in so many ways. Not like when I carried two bodies, one loaded with B&W and one with Color Slide or color negative film. One RAW file can be all those and more.

Back in 1972 as part of combined Geography, Anthropology field school in Michoacán I was the Camera Nut and got to do the documentation, photo essays and even a one day class in use of photography in field research (Prof gave me a small book on it and 3 days to read it and plan lessons). A local camera store (Agfa dealer) that the one Prof had worked with while doing his PhD in the area gave me discounts on the film, processing and did proof sheets for us. When we got back the University did a display of some of my photos (I got most of the prints when it was taken down the next quarter.) and several of them were published in a newspaper article about our 1st Annual Field School (they went on for about 10 years). I have a copy of the pages from the paper in a sealed archive envelope - but someone at the paper attributed all the shots to the professor who wrote the article instead of me. The professor did apologize about that mix up. If I ever needed to prove they were mine - well, I have all the negatives and slides from that whole summer right here in my files.
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And I expect you had 'fun' doing what you did, too. Right? In posting what I did, I was (as I have to myself in the past) recalling the frustration I felt in giving slide presentations in/at casual, advocate, and professional settings trying to describe in words what the eye --much less a slide-- could barely record while trying to make a point that would be of interest, or somehow worthwhile, to the viewer/listener. Inevitably, the limits of portable (in the sense of being able to take a tray or two of 35mm slides to some symposium two states away, rather than a bunch of prints made from large format negs) in those pre-digital times often left me showing images that might've helped make my point, but were nowhere close to being what anyone would call a 'good image' overall. Print media wasn't a whole lot better in the low distribution gray literature places where that stuff would be published. Then came digital, and digital projectors, and the ability to make and view and show not only informative, but aesthetically decent images became universally available, and boy howdy did I feel like I'd arrived in seventh heaven. Beyond that, I've always been given proper attribution, so that was never an issue for me. But I figured, even if that had been otherwise, doing/making the documentation/research properly would've been what was more important.

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Jul 16, 2019 19:12:43   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
One of the sites we did was Paricutin http://www.unmuseum.org/7wonders/paricutin.htm Site of the youngest volcano in the Western Hemisphere. Started in a farmer's field Feb 20 1943 while the farmer and his family were working in the area. We went there, saw the church tower and some other walls sticking up out of the lava field. Abandoned farm fields with only about 6" to 18" of fence sticking above the ash/sand deposits. Measured young trees that had reached 3-3.5' growing in soil filled cracks in the lava and even dug down in the ash/sand (so loose you could dig with your hands) and at less than 1' down found the tops of mummified corn plants, then on down to about 2' where we hit the original soil level and the corn roots. But except for a few trees, some alive and some dead there was no vegetation on the surface, it looked like a black sand beach. I understand that today between wind blowing in dust and breakdown into soil plants are starting to grow in the ash fields. Some of the forested areas look almost normal as many of the trees sticking above the ash have continued to grow.
This article contains a movie newsreel (remember those) of the volcano.
https://www.tomorrowsworldtoday.com/news/2019/04/02/paricutin-the-volcano-that-rocked-the-world/

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Jul 16, 2019 19:18:04   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Very nice. Is this a new find being documented?

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Jul 16, 2019 20:06:18   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Very nice. Is this a new find being documented?


Yes. I happened upon it late last year. Though the site had probably been seen by some cowboy or prospector or idiot hiker (like me) well before I came across it --there's a vestige of a 4WD track that leads to within a quarter mile of the place, and there's a spring (water!) in an area where water is damn near non-existent--, but there was no mention of it in any of the local, state or federal databases (I checked). More important (to me, anyhow) is that the site adds data to a series of roughly 20 'like' sites in the immediate ego-region (of about 20 x 50 miles, or 1000 miles square), and that I've been looking into for some years. Aiming for presenting the research findings at next year's April SAA conference in Austin TX. "Late Pre- and Early Post-Contact Ute Subsistence and Mobility Patterns in Southeast Utah." Or something like that.

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Jul 16, 2019 22:12:45   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Cany143 wrote:
Yes. I happened upon it late last year. Though the site had probably been seen by some cowboy or prospector or idiot hiker (like me) well before I came across it --there's a vestige of a 4WD track that leads to within a quarter mile of the place, and there's a spring (water!) in an area where water is damn near non-existent--, but there was no mention of it in any of the local, state or federal databases (I checked). More important (to me, anyhow) is that the site adds data to a series of roughly 20 'like' sites in the immediate ego-region (of about 20 x 50 miles, or 1000 miles square), and that I've been looking into for some years. Aiming for presenting the research findings at next year's April SAA conference in Austin TX. "Late Pre- and Early Post-Contact Ute Subsistence and Mobility Patterns in Southeast Utah." Or something like that.
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That's outstanding! Would be a dream come true for me. Believe me, I know all about the WATER!! where there is none reaction. Rock art added to that is just icing on the cake. At least if someone has seen it in modern times they had the sense to leave it as found. I think congratulations is due even if the SAA conference doesn't happen. Well done, Cany!

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Jul 17, 2019 05:36:32   #
J-SPEIGHT Loc: Akron, Ohio
 
Cany143 wrote:
Won't bore you with the details of the what or why or eventual use of any of these images, so.... Suffice it to say that doing photo documentation (of pretty much anything?) these days is SO much more satisfying --with digital and its associated tools and techniques-- now than it ever was in the past using film and analog processes.


Nice set Jim.

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Jul 17, 2019 07:25:32   #
GalaxyCat Loc: Boston, MA
 
Excellent pictures!

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Jul 17, 2019 07:49:11   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 

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Jul 17, 2019 07:55:54   #
BlueMorel Loc: Southwest Michigan
 
Cany143 wrote:
Yes. I happened upon it late last year. Though the site had probably been seen by some cowboy or prospector or idiot hiker (like me) well before I came across it --there's a vestige of a 4WD track that leads to within a quarter mile of the place, and there's a spring (water!) in an area where water is damn near non-existent--, but there was no mention of it in any of the local, state or federal databases (I checked). More important (to me, anyhow) is that the site adds data to a series of roughly 20 'like' sites in the immediate ego-region (of about 20 x 50 miles, or 1000 miles square), and that I've been looking into for some years. Aiming for presenting the research findings at next year's April SAA conference in Austin TX. "Late Pre- and Early Post-Contact Ute Subsistence and Mobility Patterns in Southeast Utah." Or something like that.
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That is a wonderful find, and going digital allows you to take multiple shots of details in short order that may be moee important than they looked, plus you can cull down to the peesentation ones. I am glad you are out documenting before some idiot ruins the ruins.

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Jul 17, 2019 08:31:14   #
fbeaston Loc: Vermont
 
Another wonderful set ... what a link to the past ... & a great way of presenting it. You really do live in an amazing part of the planet ... & seem to quite competent at capturing it on the sensor. Seems kind of weak, but all I can think to say is another great job. Thank you for sharing.

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Jul 17, 2019 09:47:55   #
Susan yamakawa
 
Blair Shaw Jr wrote:
Great imaging man....nice work indeed.


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