Transitioning from the Old Ways to the New Ways - the evolution of today's cameras (Page 2): So, your most regular shooter, now, then - is a 20MP

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

DirtFarmer wrote:

I guess I was not a self-respecting photographer ... (show quote)

So, your most regular shooter, now, then - is a 20MP - right, Dirt? And that's MORE than adequate for your needs - right? … You actually PREFER it to the 36MP one???

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

Chris T wrote:

So, your most regular shooter, now, then - is a 20MP - right, Dirt? And that's MORE than adequate for your needs - right? … You actually PREFER it to the 36MP one???

I have a D4, D5, and D800e. The D4/5 get the most use. The D800e gets used occasionally. I prefer the 4/5 because they have the built in vertical grip that I use frequently. I had an add-on vertical grip with my old D200 and used it a lot but it would occasionally come loose and lose contacts. Not a major problem but I prefer things that are hardwired.

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domcomm wrote:

A lot of that depends on if you're an "average Joe" photographer,
and hobbyist, or a trained professional. It also depends on what
your work requires. When I was producing 60" X 80" or 80" X 100"
posters, every bit of quality was important.

Important only to YOU.

Ben dare don dat. Impact and Content is everything
to the viewers. Quality-wise, they don't know Schidt
from Schinola.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

DirtFarmer wrote:

I have a D4, D5, and D800e. The D4/5 get the most use. The D800e gets used occasionally. I prefer the 4/5 because they have the built in vertical grip that I use frequently. I had an add-on vertical grip with my old D200 and used it a lot but it would occasionally come loose and lose contacts. Not a major problem but I prefer things that are hardwired.

Ah-hah!!!! I see … no wonder, Dirt!!!!

The add-on Battery Grips are not the most secure, in the world - are they?

Plus, you have to remove them, to get to the internal battery - more trouble than they're worth …

BrHawkeye

The eye is far more important than the equipment. It’s what distinguishes photographs from snapshots.

My son just had cataract surgery in one eye and noticed the next day that if he closed one eye at a time he could perceive slight differences in colors. His surgeon said that’s a common effect of the surgery but most people don’t notice it. As our eyes age they lose some color sensitivity.

Bill_de Loc: US

DirtFarmer wrote:

I have a D4, D5, and D800e. The D4/5 get the most use. The D800e gets used occasionally. I prefer the 4/5 because they have the built in vertical grip that I use frequently. I had an add-on vertical grip with my old D200 and used it a lot but it would occasionally come loose and lose contacts. Not a major problem but I prefer things that are hardwired.

The grips are better today. My D850 grip with a D5 battery seldom comes off the body. Changing the battery in the grip is enough. However, if I want to go a little smaller taking the grip off is a nice option. The D4s still gets a workout, particularly in low light.

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RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

Chris T wrote:

Ah-hah!!!! I see … no wonder, Dirt!!!!

The add-on Battery Grips are not the most secure, in the world - are they?

Plus, you have to remove them, to get to the internal battery - more trouble than they're worth …

With my Canon DSLR bodies you do not need to get to the internal battery with the additional grip. It replaces the internal battery. It is secure.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

RichardTaylor wrote:

With my Canon DSLR bodies you do not need to get to the internal battery with the additional grip. It replaces the internal battery. It is secure.

With the D90 I had, you DID have to remove the grip to get to the internal battery, Richard, but the grip holds two … so, with it on - you're running on THREE batteries … shame - I had to send it back … BUT! I still have the Grip! … Doesn't do me much good, w/o the camera, anymore, though …

catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway

I have to agree with those who say megapixels are not all that important. I think dynamic range, speed or DOF play a bigger roll.

I did a shoot with a newly acquired 1DX Mkii at 20 mp last week and actually prefer the look of the color and dynamic range over the MK4's 36 mp, even when cropping.

The print world has a place for maximum mega pixels no doubt. It will be interesting to see where the mega pixel war takes the industry in the future.

Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.

Well, in the 50's I only had the Brownie Holiday flash camera my mother gave me for Christmas. Then in 1960 I got my first good 35mm camera, a Petri range-finder. Then in the 60's I managed my first two SLR cameras, an Exa I and then a Praktina IIA, which I used for years. Then since 2000 I have moved into Digital photography. I have, at present two older DSLR cameras, a Canon 10D and a Nikon D100. I am quite satisfied with the photos they produce. I don't see even a professional photographer needing 100 megapixels unless you are making billboards.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

Bigmike1 wrote:

... I don't see even a professional photographer needing 100 megapixels unless you are making billboards.

I don't think even billboards need 100 MPx. Nobody looks at them up close except the guy who glues the paper on (assuming they're still made of paper).

anotherview Loc: California

Some shills insist that a shooter needs a camera sensor with 100MB if doing billboards. I understand, though, that software can upsize an image from a smaller sensor for this purpose.

Ken Rockwell asserts that we need no more than 6MB in a sensor.

I've found that 20 to 24MB suits everything that I shoot.

I'm supposing that if I earned money doing photography, then I'd rent high-end gear to impress clients who could fund a budget to include such gear.

Chris T wrote:

About a half-century ago - every self-respecting p... (show quote)

Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.

I still shoot film exclusively. I have yet to have a publisher ask me if my snaps were shot on film or a digital camera. Do not worry about megapixels, lens speed, etc. spend your time and effort on honing your vision and technique.

Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.

DirtFarmer wrote:

I don't think even billboards need 100 MPx. Nobody looks at them up close except the guy who glues the paper on (assuming they're still made of paper).

Billboards have been around much longer than today’s fantastic films and digital cameras.

Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.

BrHawkeye wrote:

The eye is far more important than the equipment. It’s what distinguishes photographs from snapshots.

My son just had cataract surgery in one eye and noticed the next day that if he closed one eye at a time he could perceive slight differences in colors. His surgeon said that’s a common effect of the surgery but most people don’t notice it. As our eyes age they lose some color sensitivity.

Damn! I best start burning more B/W film. 😬