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Aug 27, 2012 13:02:46   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
abc1234 wrote:
CaptainC wrote:
...I am not a big fan of LR (for my work)...


What do you use then?


I use Bridge and Photoshop. I thinK LR is a great program and if it fits your working style, then you should use it. In the past, I did some motorsport events and had several hundreds of images to process and post online - for that, Lightroom is perfect - a huge timesaver.
For my portrait work, it just gets in the way. I found myself going up to photoshop to do EVERYTHING as I have plug-ins and actions that only work in PS and since LR cannot do layers and layer masks, it is a waste of my time. And all this stuff about it being non-destructive - well, ANY RAW file is non destructive, so no advantage there.

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Aug 27, 2012 13:34:55   #
No1Shutterbug Loc: Greencastle, PA Live in The Villages, FL
 
More mega-pixels will make a smoother transition in the color. What is the mp of your camera?

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Aug 27, 2012 14:14:03   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
No1Shutterbug wrote:
More mega-pixels will make a smoother transition in the color. What is the mp of your camera?


Did you read PhotoArtsLA's answer? I don't think megapixels is the answer here. It is a combination of bit-depth and processing. Could you cite a reference for your answer?

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Aug 27, 2012 15:20:17   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
drydock wrote:
CaptainC wrote:
drydock wrote:
16 bit raw file imported into lightroom with minor presets. I have a UV filter on the lens-- it looks clean to me. I did notice that on the lightroom settings the colour space was set to ProPhoto RGB rather than sRGB Would that have made any difference?


ProPhoto is the LR default and is a MUCH wider color space, so that is not a problem. UV filter should have not effect.

I am not a big fan of LR (for my work), so I am not claiming any expertise, but do you still have the original raw file on the card and can you re-import with NO presets?
quote=drydock 16 bit raw file imported into light... (show quote)


Panic over!! In the cold light of day, I noticed that the marks on the RAW images stayed static when I zoomed up the images and moved the zoomed image around-- ergo, it was on the screen. I cleaned off the screen thoroughly and cured the problem.
Re the JPEG images however, these marks are truly on the image. Is the cure for this problem to simply make bigger JPEG files or to reduce the RAW file to 8 bit colour?
quote=CaptainC quote=drydock 16 bit raw file imp... (show quote)


Yes, it will help to keep the jpg as large as possible with as little compression as possible. No need to reduce to 8 bit color since that will happen automatically when the image is saved as a jpg. Save as a tiff and print from tiff. tiff's are lossless and shouldn't show banding when displayed on screen or output to printer. Of course if you want to upload to the internet, most of the time jpg is the file format most recognized and don't forget to use 'save for web' or convert color space to sRGB and then 'save as' for a jpg. Search youtube for blue sky banding and see what others have to say.

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Aug 27, 2012 16:07:37   #
No1Shutterbug Loc: Greencastle, PA Live in The Villages, FL
 
CaptainC wrote:
No1Shutterbug wrote:
More mega-pixels will make a smoother transition in the color. What is the mp of your camera?


Did you read PhotoArtsLA's answer? I don't think megapixels is the answer here. It is a combination of bit-depth and processing. Could you cite a reference for your answer?


I have no reference, just a thought. Why wouldn't the amount of pixels as well as the bit rate have an effect on the color blend?

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Aug 27, 2012 16:22:42   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
Your eyes are better than mine because I can't see any arcs in the sky no matter how much I enlarge the download. What I do see when looking at the top of the trees is over sharpening causing the dark shadows along the tree line. Not positive it is the sharpening but the photo looks to have had a bad day in the PP dept. When I look at the photo that's the 1st thing that jumps out at me not any arc's. There are those much more knowledgable that do see the arcs so I have to believe they're there although muchless evident than the bad PP work...........

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Aug 27, 2012 18:28:08   #
TonyB Loc: Cornwall UK
 
coco1964 wrote:
Your eyes are better than mine because I can't see any arcs in the sky no matter how much I enlarge the download. What I do see when looking at the top of the trees is over sharpening causing the dark shadows along the tree line. Not positive it is the sharpening but the photo looks to have had a bad day in the PP dept. When I look at the photo that's the 1st thing that jumps out at me not any arc's. There are those much more knowledgable that do see the arcs so I have to believe they're there although muchless evident than the bad PP work...........
Your eyes are better than mine because I can't see... (show quote)


The banding is definitely there, looking like wide saucer shapes, lower edge to the centre. The tops of the trees look like chromatic aberration to me, giving a turquoise edging to the tops of the branches

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Aug 27, 2012 21:04:48   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
No1Shutterbug wrote:
CaptainC wrote:
No1Shutterbug wrote:
More mega-pixels will make a smoother transition in the color. What is the mp of your camera?


Did you read PhotoArtsLA's answer? I don't think megapixels is the answer here. It is a combination of bit-depth and processing. Could you cite a reference for your answer?


I have no reference, just a thought. Why wouldn't the amount of pixels as well as the bit rate have an effect on the color blend?


You did not say "I think...." You stated it as a fact.

C'mon folks if you don't know the answer, don't state some "thought" as as a fact. I know people want to help, but mis-information is not helpful.

Pixels define the size of an image, but bit depth refers to how much data the pixels contain.

http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,1237,t=bit+depth&i=38678,00.asp

http://www.digitalphotopro.com/gear/imaging-tech/the-bit-depth-decision.html

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Aug 28, 2012 15:02:38   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
CaptainC wrote:
Pixels define the size of an image, but bit depth refers to how much data the pixels contain.
http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,1237,t=bit+depth&i=38678,00.asp
http://www.digitalphotopro.com/gear/imaging-tech/the-bit-depth-decision.html
I have added this information to
FAQ: Common Photographic Terms & Abbreviations
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-26493-1.html

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Aug 29, 2012 10:22:22   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
The arcs (posterization) appear only in the JPEG simply because the compression reduces the color information so much that there is not enough information available to represent a smooth gradient transition. If you save in an uncompressed format such as TIFF you should not have this problem. Now that is my opinion, but there could be other reasons at work...

Here is an article on how to avoid or fix this problem in Photoshop.

http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=371

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