Mac OS Update that kills Aperture? I am running macOS Mojave, 10.14.3, and Aperture still works (except for raw files from newer cameras). I am getting a notification that a newer...

tonyjag Loc: Bolton, Ma.

I am running macOS Mojave, 10.14.3, and Aperture still works (except for raw files from newer cameras). I am getting a notification that a newer version macOS 10.14.5 is ready to install. Is it the one that will no longer support Aperture?

If so, i will hold off on updating until my Aperture Libraries have been migrated using Aperture Exporter. DAM/editing apps under consideration now are: (not in any particular order and excluding Windows-only ones):
- DXO Photolab
- Luminar 3
- Affinity Photo
- Alien Skin Exposure
- Capture One
- Blue Marine (LINUX only?)
- ON1 Photo Raw
- Photoscape X
- Raw Therapee

There are many workflow-dependent pros and cons, so I am collecting inputs for a spreadsheet to help decide. I will not go to any app that holds my pictures hostage, accessible only via it's own proprietary data base, like Aperture and LR.

a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel

I am not 100% certain, but I believe that the OS version that will no longer support Aperture will be the major release this fall, not the point release you can install now.

Even LR won't (or at least does not have to) hold your originals hostage but like many catalogs systems, it uses its own DB in order to remember: 1] where the original is stored in your system and 2] the various edits, tags, keywords, etc. that you assigned. Some systems use "sidecar" files and that leaves you even more protection.

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

tonyjag wrote:

I am running macOS Mojave, 10.14.3, and Aperture s... (show quote)

FWIW: Had you set up Aperture as a Referenced library, your images would not be hidden inside the Library file structure, but the default for a Managed library is to hide them away. Lightroom is Referenced, meaning your images are where you tell them to be and the Catalog contains an index of pointers to each image.

Systems that are file browsers, that have no built in index/database/catalog may choke on large collections of images because they must look at each file constantly, a catalog system can be quickly searched regardless of the number of images and drive speeds.

IMHO: Lightroom should be added to your list as it is excellent at managing large collections of images

picsman Loc: Scotland

Try Capture One, it has catalogues and sessions. I use sessions for events but all my files are kept in my own file structure and easy to find.

droszel

I agree with Dngallagher. When I was using Aperture, I used it’s managed library feature. For me, making the transition to Lightroom, it was the referenced library feature and how the catalogue knows (or doesn’t know) where to find them that I struggled most with. That’s a struggle I’ve now won. Your photos are where you put them. “Taming Your Photo Library With Adobe Lightroom ” by Rob Sylvan was key to my winning that struggle. I highly recommend it

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

tonyjag wrote:

I am running macOS Mojave, 10.14.3, and Aperture s... (show quote)

Tony … not sure about MAC OS, but the Win 10 Update I just completed, wiped out my default MS Photo Management APP, and no amount of finagling on my part, seems to bring it back - so, it DOES happen!

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

tonyjag wrote:

I am running macOS Mojave, 10.14.3, and Aperture s... (show quote)

Lightroom does NOT do anything even remotely like what you describe. Your images STAY wherever you put them, and are never altered — just exported or printed as new versions with your “changes” (really, LR just saves a list of instructions, either as a catalog entry or a sidecar file).

jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY

The answer to your question is...Yes, Aperture will work with the updated release of Mojave. It will not work with the new operating system...Catalina.

jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY

picsman wrote:

Try Capture One, it has catalogues and sessions. I use sessions for events but all my files are kept in my own file structure and easy to find.

I agree. Works is a similar manner to Aperture regarding your ability to organize and manage your photos. Most adjustments will import..not all. Movies cannot be edited.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

tonyjag wrote:

I am running macOS Mojave, 10.14.3, and Aperture s... (show quote)

It is Catalina (Mac OS 10.15.x) that will kill Aperture and many other older apps.

There is a cycle of freaking out that users go through when computer companies upgrade their systems and software. First is, "But I paid good money for this! I should be able to use it forever!" Well, it's SOFTware. It can be rewritten... or abandoned. (Murphy's law of software development is that any software that is finished IS abandoned.)

Second, we formulate a strategy of clinging to the past. On the Mac, this usually means having one or more external startup drives with different versions of the OS and older software on them. Maybe we keep older computers with obsolete processors, too! (I do this... I have several older Macs dating back to 1999 and OS 9.2.2!)

Third, we move on, finding the new software and the new OS (and maybe the new computer) ENTIRELY worth the upgrade. Then we wonder why we ever waited to switch...

frjack Loc: Boston, MA

I use Capture One 10. Will probably upgrade to 11. Used Aperture for years. Within a week or two will copy all of Aperture and then migrate Capture One. Had a hard time learning the file creation and retrieval. But, the program allows one to go where Aperture did not. Is a bit expensive but you own it. There are a few things on v. 12 that make the upgrade attractive. Will always yearn for the simple file creation and library if Aperture but after that hurdle Capture One is great.

jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ

The only problem I am seeing is that with the upgrade to Catalina ALL, I repeat ALL 32 bit programs are useless on your iMac, MacBook and Mac mini's. In fact I am getting messages every time I turn on my iMac & MacBook Pro to that effect. Since I tend to travel more now that I retired I shut my iMac down when I take a trip to keep from having it get hit by lightning or other dreadful things.

In fact it seems that Adobe is all 32 bit on my iMac & MacBook Pro.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

tonyjag wrote:

I am running macOS Mojave, 10.14.3, and Aperture still works (except for raw files from newer cameras). I am getting a notification that a newer version macOS 10.14.5 is ready to install. Is it the one that will no longer support Aperture?

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No.

Aperture is a 32 bit program. MacOS Version 10.15, Catalina, will not support 32 bit programs.

Catalina has not been released to the general public. Jethro779, above, is running a beta version.

rleonetti Loc: Portland, Oregon

burkphoto wrote:

It is Catalina (Mac OS 10.15.x) that will kill Ape... (show quote)

I hope you are not right and would appreciate another look by you, or anyone, that might explain this:

The software (under 'about this MAC') for Aperture (which I have not been using) and Adobe Lightroom (last non-subscription version, 6.xxx) which I am currently using show them as 64 bit (Intel) software not 32 bit.

Is there hope they will run under Catalina?

JD750 Loc: SoCal

rleonetti wrote:

I hope you are not right and would appreciate another look by you, or anyone, that might explain this:

The software (under 'about this MAC') for Aperture (which I have not been using) and Adobe Lightroom (last non-subscription version, 6.xxx) which I am currently using show them as 64 bit (Intel) software not 32 bit.

Is there hope they will run under Catalina?

Aperture will not run under macOS Catalina.

Apple has stated so. Jethro779 is running a beta version of Catalina and he confirmed earlier in this thread, Aperture will not run.

Lightroom will run fine.