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Jul 7, 2019 13:45:12   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This planet is killing people. Maybe it's trying to tell us something.

I've often wondered if aliens looking for another place to live would consider settling on earth, considering the weather and geology.


This planet has always been killing people, nothing new there. Take a look at Pompeii. I'm sure if there are aliens on other worlds they have the same kinds of trials and tribulations that we do...global cooling anyone?

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Jul 7, 2019 13:47:59   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Retired CPO wrote:
This planet has always been killing people, nothing new there. Take a look at Pompeii. I'm sure if there are aliens on other worlds they have the same kinds of trials and tribulations that we do...global cooling anyone?


I may be wrong on the dates but global cooling was spoken of back in the 30's. Now it is global warming. Who knows what will be the global flavor of the month next time the Liberals want to tell us we will all die in 12 years as AOC, the speaker for Liberal Democrats, tells us.

Dennis

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Jul 7, 2019 14:02:51   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I may be wrong on the dates but global cooling was spoken of back in the 30's. Now it is global warming. Who knows what will be the global flavor of the month next time the Liberals want to tell us we will all die in 12 years as AOC, the speaker for Liberal Democrats, tells us.

Dennis


Dennis, there was an article in National Geographic Magazine in, I think, 1975. The title of the article, in Bold Print was "HOW WILL WE SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE". The gist of the article, in part, was how will we feed the world when a major part of the arable surface of the world is covered with ice.
In my opinion, it's still a valid concern. How much more trouble would we be in if we were facing an imminent ice age rather than a warming climate with extended growing seasons?

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Jul 7, 2019 14:09:19   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Dennis, there was an article in National Geographic Magazine in, I think, 1975. The title of the article, in Bold Print was "HOW WILL WE SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE". The gist of the article, in part, was how will we feed the world when a major part of the arable surface of the world is covered with ice.
In my opinion, it's still a valid concern. How much more trouble would we be in if we were facing an imminent ice age rather than a warming climate with extended growing seasons?


I recall reading about that article but still THINK I saw one earlier about the coming ice age as well. At any rate at 73 I don't think I am going to worry about it, either way. I still maintain that the earth is doing its thing with no regard to what we minuscule pesky humans are doing. Yes I know Liberals will scream I am an idiot and so on. Of course there is no proof of them being correct.

Dennis

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Jul 7, 2019 14:14:20   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Pinenuts wrote:
Just curious. I live in the Eastern Sierra in Nevada and would like to know where the 1000 foot cliff is. If it is accessible by 4X4 it would be fun explore.


I heard it long, long ago in a lecture by a "Field Geography" professor. We had gone out to see a "baby" version, 18" and it ran through a sub-division north of LA. Streets, sidewalks, lawns (by a miracle it went between all the houses, at least the ones we saw) etc. He mentioned it when one of the students went all gaga over the 18" high cliff left by the earthquake. He also talked about the lifts during the 1906 San Francisco quake, several feet in one or two places where you had lift on one side and subsidence on the other.
I do remember he said the exposed mountain face was well over 1000' with what was apparently one large lift scar of nearly 1000' and several smaller ones. I do remember he said something like "I wouldn't have wanted to be around for that one unless I was in an airplane overhead."

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Jul 7, 2019 14:24:57   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
bodiebill wrote:
It is caused by intercontinental drift of the denser ocean plate diving under the lighter continental plate (known as subduction). The diving ocean plate melts and magma moves upwards causing volcanoes and earthquakes. The denser ocean plate crashing into the lighter continental plate also causes mountains to rise
fracturing the earth's rock formations with faults.


You are describing the Cascadian subduction zone, which is along the coast of Oregon and Washington. The California San Andreas fault is a strike-slip fault, which moves sideways rather than one diving under the other. You will get occasional vertical motion but that's not the major player in that fault.

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Jul 7, 2019 14:27:09   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I recall reading about that article but still THINK I saw one earlier about the coming ice age as well. At any rate at 73 I don't think I am going to worry about it, either way. I still maintain that the earth is doing its thing with no regard to what we minuscule pesky humans are doing. Yes I know Liberals will scream I am an idiot and so on. Of course there is no proof of them being correct.

Dennis



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Jul 7, 2019 14:27:57   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I may be wrong on the dates but global cooling was spoken of back in the 30's. Now it is global warming. Who knows what will be the global flavor of the month next time the Liberals want to tell us we will all die in 12 years as AOC, the speaker for Liberal Democrats, tells us.

Dennis


It was the 70s, even the SciFi authors got in on it, one story had Alien archaeologists trying to figure out what Terrans looked like. They had found a Disney cartoon of Donald Duck and company frozen in the ice and thought it was a real movie. Yeah, I too wondered how creatures that dumb could travel between stars.
I remember one panic piece I read in a serious magazine (don't remember which one, I subscribed to about 14 back then) that was predicting the glaciers would reach the Ohio or further south and civilization as we knew it would fall.
We are still coming out of the "Little Ice Age" according to some. Go back about 1000 years and England was the prime grape and wine region of western Europe, then before that it was cold and another warm period during the peak of the Roman Empire when North Africa was the "bread basket" of the Empire.

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Jul 7, 2019 15:32:28   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
HamB wrote:
Earthquakes are caused by Global Warming...


Seriously or an attempt at a joke?

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Jul 7, 2019 15:43:13   #
oregon don
 
robertjerl wrote:
This one has now been pegged at 7.1 by the USGS and in the same general area as the others.
So those others are now "fore-shocks" since this one was bigger. It was also a long rolling quake as opposed to a sharp jolt.

And for those who have not studied geology. The part of California west of the San Andrea fault actually rises up higher it is not falling into the Pacific.
The tectonic plate to the west of the fault is in the process of riding up over the edge of the mainland plate to the east.

And sometimes that rise and or drop difference can be huge, one quake in Japan in the 20th century caused a 16 story elevation change between the two sides of the fault.

There is one cliff in the Sierra Nevadas that is over 1000' and apparently was done in a single super quake.

The New Madrid quake in the winter of 1811-1812 rang church bells in Boston, was felt in the White House (7.5 -7.9 is the guess of the minimum power and two in that range took place on the same day), and caused people sleeping on the ground to be tossed 2-3 feet up as recorded in some diaries/journals. there were also reports of large trees that whipped back and forth so hard the trunks broke. It also dropped a range of hills said to have been up to 100' tall along the east bank of the Mississippi to subside and form Reelfoot Lake TN which even today after a lot of sediment is still 18' deep in places. So much water ran in to fill the new lake that the Mississippi ran backwards or a while.
This one has now been pegged at 7.1 by the USGS an... (show quote)


You mean California is not falling into the ocean? dam!!!

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Jul 7, 2019 15:43:30   #
pendennis
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I recall reading about that article but still THINK I saw one earlier about the coming ice age as well. At any rate at 73 I don't think I am going to worry about it, either way. I still maintain that the earth is doing its thing with no regard to what we minuscule pesky humans are doing. Yes I know Liberals will scream I am an idiot and so on. Of course there is no proof of them being correct.

Dennis


You and I are close in age (72). From my readings in the last several years, I'm convinced that were facing another ice age. It may not get here for a couple of thousand years, but it's coming. Ice ages, rather the time between them seem to run at 10k, to 15k intervals. Right now, we're just over 10k years from the end of the last one. We've already endured a mini-ice age from 1000CE, to roughly 1850. We're only 170 years into the warming period. CO2 levels are very low (400PPM), and within the last 2k years, we've had much higher levels. I'd be more concerned about things like water vapor, which has a much higher concentration than CO2.

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Jul 7, 2019 17:04:35   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
HamB wrote:
Earthquakes are caused by Global Warming...


Al is that you?

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Jul 7, 2019 17:06:19   #
bodiebill
 
I did click reply.
Not a seismologist, but I did work in the Petroleum industry and I did read Jules Vern.

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Jul 7, 2019 17:21:55   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
bodiebill wrote:
I did click reply.
Not a seismologist, but I did work in the Petroleum industry and I did read Jules Vern.


Not reply but right next to it, Quote Reply, as I just did. You will note it now shows your post and then this reply. It lets everyone know I am replying to your post.

Working in the petroleum industry doing what that is connected to earthquakes, global warming, anything that has to do with the discussion? I worked in the oil industry yesterday when filling my truck with diesel fuel. I spoke to someone in the industry when I gave them my credit card.

Dennis

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Jul 7, 2019 17:27:37   #
bodiebill
 
Yes, we are in between ice ages , the warming between ice ages peaked about 6000 yrs ago.
Most of life in North America ended under the ice during the Wisconsian Ice Age (most current past ice age), but look how it has recovered since the melting and retreat of the gigantic sheets of ice. New York City was covered with approximately 1000 feet of ice---seems to be doing OK today. Even tundra exists in the sub Arctic.
Man has been here a very short time in geologic history, he does alter the environment but only on a minuscule scale.
Al Gore made his money in the family tobacco business (cancer), and then on "Global Warming" (known now as "Global Climate Change", a cute term to cover all bases). He has no understanding of earth geologic history.
If you want to help mankind and champion another futile cause then "Stop Continental Drift", or "We will drill Earth First, then the other Planets latter"

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